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Originally posted by ZeroReady
reply to post by ServantOfTheLamb
Bombarding atheists with logic games and facts? Logic and facts? And your only source for this is a Bronze Age document written with Bronze Age ethics and "facts".
So the secret feeling that Christians get which atheists somehow are missing out on is a feeling of forgiveness from a vengeful, vindictive, racist, homophobic sky-god, for a set of subjective "sins", which may not even be sins to some people? And you don't want to share it because you're afraid of being ridiculed? I can see why you would want to leave that part out.
Have I got that right?
I can't blame you for feeling ridiculed over believing something like that, as someone who subscribes to "logic and facts" myself, even though I'm a hedonistic atheist. You should be ridiculed.
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by ServantOfTheLamb
Why would you fear ridicule when your lord told you specifically... "You will be persecuted for my sake"?
Do you really care what others might think of your beliefs?
Originally posted by InfaRedMan
reply to post by ServantOfTheLamb
Feelings are not a reliable test of anything and have nothing in common with reality. I see a lot of special pleading here because the premise of your thread is somewhat flimsy. The reason that many theists 'get angry' is because they they have little control over said feelings and are in total servitude of their imaginations. The type of imagination whose pillars crumble when put under the weight of scrutiny.
IRM
Originally posted by ServantOfTheLamb
reply to post by Akragon
I personally have no problem sharing this experience, and you both are misunderstanding. We fear you will hold no merit to personal revelations, and only criticize. I have already told one person on here that 10months ago God hit me like a brick to start studying the Bible. I hadn't gone to church in years, and am definitely not one to just go up and talk to people about God, but as of late I cannot contain myself. I fear my time to warn you all is running out, and I just want to make sure you know that if the rapture occurs and your left here during in the seven year tribulation there is a second chance.
Originally posted by ServantOfTheLamb
....we leave out a major reason that we believe in God, and that is the feeling that is experienced when one ask the Lord to save them from their sins. I have no doubt every Christian knows the exact feeling that I am talking about, and that once they felt it that was the day they decided, "I will never not believe in you again."
Originally posted by Akragon
Originally posted by ServantOfTheLamb
reply to post by Akragon
I personally have no problem sharing this experience, and you both are misunderstanding. We fear you will hold no merit to personal revelations, and only criticize. I have already told one person on here that 10months ago God hit me like a brick to start studying the Bible. I hadn't gone to church in years, and am definitely not one to just go up and talk to people about God, but as of late I cannot contain myself. I fear my time to warn you all is running out, and I just want to make sure you know that if the rapture occurs and your left here during in the seven year tribulation there is a second chance.
Well thats great... Perhaps that might be the reason why some would make fun?
The world isn't ending my friend... This is NOT "end times" despite what you might believe... Christian have been "warning people" about this stuff for centuries... And some people hear it way too much...
I even have people coming to my door trying to convince me the rapture is coming soon... Though most of them are clueless of anyrhing outside of revelation... Rather amusing actually
End times is what the sun dies out... A few million years from now... And our species will likely destroy itself loooong before that happens
Originally posted by ServantOfTheLamb
Originally posted by Akragon
Originally posted by ServantOfTheLamb
reply to post by Akragon
I personally have no problem sharing this experience, and you both are misunderstanding. We fear you will hold no merit to personal revelations, and only criticize. I have already told one person on here that 10months ago God hit me like a brick to start studying the Bible. I hadn't gone to church in years, and am definitely not one to just go up and talk to people about God, but as of late I cannot contain myself. I fear my time to warn you all is running out, and I just want to make sure you know that if the rapture occurs and your left here during in the seven year tribulation there is a second chance.
Well thats great... Perhaps that might be the reason why some would make fun?
The world isn't ending my friend... This is NOT "end times" despite what you might believe... Christian have been "warning people" about this stuff for centuries... And some people hear it way too much...
I even have people coming to my door trying to convince me the rapture is coming soon... Though most of them are clueless of anyrhing outside of revelation... Rather amusing actually
End times is what the sun dies out... A few million years from now... And our species will likely destroy itself loooong before that happens
Here is the best Biblical defense for the start of the Clock being 1948
gracethrufaith.com...
Here is a commentary on why some believe we have two years left, but this is just a theory remember.
gracethrufaith.com...
I have found out more about these two years that make the rapture more likely to occur call me crazy all you want homie you'll thank me one day.
Originally posted by Akragon
Originally posted by ServantOfTheLamb
Originally posted by Akragon
Originally posted by ServantOfTheLamb
reply to post by Akragon
I personally have no problem sharing this experience, and you both are misunderstanding. We fear you will hold no merit to personal revelations, and only criticize. I have already told one person on here that 10months ago God hit me like a brick to start studying the Bible. I hadn't gone to church in years, and am definitely not one to just go up and talk to people about God, but as of late I cannot contain myself. I fear my time to warn you all is running out, and I just want to make sure you know that if the rapture occurs and your left here during in the seven year tribulation there is a second chance.
Well thats great... Perhaps that might be the reason why some would make fun?
The world isn't ending my friend... This is NOT "end times" despite what you might believe... Christian have been "warning people" about this stuff for centuries... And some people hear it way too much...
I even have people coming to my door trying to convince me the rapture is coming soon... Though most of them are clueless of anyrhing outside of revelation... Rather amusing actually
End times is what the sun dies out... A few million years from now... And our species will likely destroy itself loooong before that happens
Here is the best Biblical defense for the start of the Clock being 1948
gracethrufaith.com...
Here is a commentary on why some believe we have two years left, but this is just a theory remember.
gracethrufaith.com...
I have found out more about these two years that make the rapture more likely to occur call me crazy all you want homie you'll thank me one day.
Nope i won't...
Im not calling you crazy either... You have your beliefs... Stick to them...
Though years from now when no rapture has happened... And your beliefs fly out the window like every other person who believes this "rapture" will happen... Which is barely even biblical...
Remember this conversation...
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by ServantOfTheLamb
Thanks man... But i don't need any links about the rapture...
I know all about it... And like i said its barely biblical.
There will never be a time in the history of our planet where tons of people will just up and disappear... Believe whatever you like though...
We're here til we die... All of us... Like it or not...
We're on our own... And we always have been...
Get used to it... Cause that will never change.
Oh... And i wouldn't put much faith in the book of revelation in any case...
Though telling that to a christian is almost pointless