reply to post by Spiramirabilis
Obama reacted to this latest situation immediately the way any sane, thinking, feeling human being would - with outrage and disgust. The same
way many people in this world did - including myself.
So those of us that oppose the kind of unilateral actions that have always resulted in more deaths and violence are neither sane nor feeling human
beings? How silly and frighteningly arrogant that is.
Obama's "outrage & disgust" seems to ebb & flow, and is rather obviously more connected to the foreign policy of the warhawks he mentions in the vid
than that of a man of character.
But, you're not naive - right - because you know he's just plain dishonest? Because he ignores suffering in other parts of the world? So, then
- you're in favor of him getting involved in the affairs of other nations then - or not? I'm confused.
You certainly are confused, you got that right, Spirm. Yes he's dishonest. Do I have to say "refer to the vid" again?
Further, how does pointing out the man's outrageous and obviously hypocritical moral ambiguity equate to me being in favor of his getting involved in
the affairs of other countries? Dissemble much?
To be clear, I'm in favor, first, of diplomacy and humanitarian aid. After that, it should be a choice that reflects the true will of the majority of
100,000 dead - more groups than you can throw a shoe at fighting for control, displacement and war moving across the borders - in a region
that's not stable to begin with? And you think we're going to destabilize things? Please.
Exactly. Things are whacked. We've played our part in that already. And I'm fairly certain Obama isn't wise enough, nor man enough, to truly slow
things down, look at the bigger picture, and make the boo-boo feel all better. He's both reckless and arrogant.
Seems the whole world is going to opt out of this one - and we just might too.
Nah, Obama's too big of a narcissist and he has too many liars whispering in his ear. Plus, don't be a fool, we have, and will continue to have--until
reaches critical mass--very questionable covert action operations in
continuation in the region. Do you dispute that? Do you understand that?
And, we are already hated the world over - but that wasn't Obama's doing. There are people watching and waiting now to see what we will do -
and believe you me, it's possible there will be a whole new level of hate coming that will last for years to come.
World-class hypocrite John Kerry just stood up an applauded you for that. I sincerely doubt we can be held responsible for,
1.) Somebody else's actions in light of,
2.) Everyone else's own caution about stepping in and doing something stoopid.
So, you want to assume - or presume - what I do or don't know? What does or doesn't bother me?
Is that how you argue? Really? It's a little bit chicken-crap of you - but, as you wish
Spare me - you have no idea.
Well please enlighten me on how knowledgeable you are then because my position is not only consistent, but actually shows an understanding of hijacked
foreign policy and the repercussions of misguided covert action.
You, on the other hand, have shown no indication that you understand anything from our history as regards, say,
, or the aforementioned
antics that include assassination and the
installation of administration-friendly dictators who have killed and tortured MUCH more than the 100,000 figure that you got from Anderson Cooper.
But it's a fair question actually - I don't have a solution. Nobody does. But, this is a situation that demands the attention of the world. I
feel the world should not just sit on the sidelines and watch while wringing their hands and offering up excuses and apologies later. And as I
mentioned - if this wasn't a liberal president - you and I wouldn't even be having this friendly little chat.
Speak for yourself, I'd be having the EXACT same conversation with whatever fool was lying to us yet again and hiding behind spin and hypocrisy to do
In this case it just happens to be one of the most loathsome and arrogant hypocrites to come along in a while: Obama. Again, refer to the vid and take
a gander of your hero.
So…dunno - I'm pretty sure bombing won't work. God knows what they've got stashed and where they've stashed it. Too many civilians - no clear
targets - not sure which enemy is the biggest and baddest - there's so many to choose from. Not to mention Russia and Iran shuffling their feet in the
shadows. It's a genuine bona fide pckle - isn't it?
I've asked you so many questions - you haven't bothered to answer any. How about just this one: Why do you think we haven't done anything
With SO may questions, no answers, and no proven grasp of our true behind-the-scenes history, you should probably just be more quiet and read some of
the stuff I suggested and linked.
edit on 2-9-2013 by The GUT because: (no reason given)