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Priceless, isn't it? You simply can not make this stuff up... A hollywood movie mogul trying to sell this would be laughed out of the offices, 'cause it's just too unlikely.
In the following short vid, Obama details how we Americans weren't just failed by a President, but our Congress, a foreign policy elite hungering for war, and by our media, "that too often reported spin instead of facts."
www.salon.com...
For another Homs resident, Abu Bassam, 31, the only possible response was black humor.
“Man, I wish Bush was the president,” he said. “He would have reacted right away. He may have invaded Cyprus or Jordan instead of Syria by mistake, but you know he would have done something at least.”
Tell it, brother, tell it.
The PBS interview he gave earlier this week and his statement yesterday....he has deep set, dark eyes, furrowed brow, gaunt look and considerably aged hair...a vast contrast to the video posted in the OP.
A hallmark of the realties of being President vs. the ideals of being a candidate.
Originally posted by Spiramirabilis
Well - those words were true then - and now you see it as irony?
I'll tell you what's ironic - we won't do something about Syria when we really should because of things we did in the past - that we really shouldn't have done.
I think we also live in a fantasy world sometimes - and expect our elected officials to ride in on a white horse and make everything clean and whole again
It never was clean and whole - never will be. No president is ever going to change that.
No, I see it as world-class hypocrisy from a man who PROMISED he would stand against such idiotic "foreign policy."
He's certainly made his die-hard supporters look foolish and left them to make feeble excuses for him.
Rather naive, imo, of you to think he's acting out of moral outrage and disgust. Funny how he ignores suffering and tyranny in so many other parts of the world.
Regardless of that, are you really blinded enough to think that striking Syria won't destabilize the situation further and cause many, many, many more deaths?
I'm sorry, I just don't see that as any kind of excuse for failing the constitution, being party to actions that either take and/or contribute to an exponential taking of lives in a seemingly never-ending series of actions that are making us hated the world over.
Just accept it and take it is your point? How absolutely defeatist of you.
Btw - You obviously only read what you wanted to read because I've stated here that I hold the repubs as accountable as I do to the obviously unethical and morally bankrupt Obama and crew. So before you brand me, understand me.
Originally posted by Spiramirabilis
OK - since you're not a defeatist - what's your bright idea? How do we fix the world?
Yes - I've read a few bits here and there...about how corrupt all politicians are - how we deserve better - more or less the same old roll-over argument about how we're all at the mercy of: the PTB, elitist warmongers, corporate overlords - and how 'they' don't actually care about us little guys at all...not at all - and we really deserve to live in a better world. (Frankly, I'm surprised you haven't managed to work in in the reptilians and the greys - but there's still time...)
Shining light on darkness is a beginning. The pen is mightier than the sword and all that, eh?
Originally posted by The GUT
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With all the recent scandals and revelations and economic BeeEss, it's difficult to decide which double standards to support.
Many have come to realize they have been hoodwinked and tricked.
No doubt. But an Obama or a Bush...they're all complicit and on the same team. Not ours.
I bet Romney would be speaking the same words and rattling the same sword on the same timetable.
Reminds me of the vid SmoothRythm mentioned:
Originally posted by Spiramirabilis
I'll give you that
It's a pity that shining a light is so often reduced to banal mudslinging and immediate self gratification
Thanks for the lizards - I guess that's as thoughtful and balanced as it's going to get :-)
I get the feeling that you're not very versed in the problems associated with such issues as the Covert Action implementation of hidden foreign policy? Since WW II in particular, we don't mind putting ruthless Dictators in power...as long as they're our ruthless Dictators. I'm surprised that doesn't seem to bother you and/or cross your mind.
Originally posted by Spiramirabilis
reply to post by The GUT
We will not help anybody there - precisely because you and I and everyone else are having this inane argument over here
So - why did you start this thread?
Also - I'm talking to you - right now, right here - in your thread. Try not to redirect your argument :-)
Why did I start this thread? Because Obama is pulling some very dangerous stunts that will surely escalate the violence, destruction, and suffering already in progress.
He's the one currently with his finger on the trigger button. Hence this thread is a nonviolent surgical-strike if you will. Unlike Obama's violent surgical-strike hypocritical idiocy.
Tell us again what YOUR solution is? Bombing Syria was it?
The reason I directed you to Beezer's thread is you mentioned how moral Obama was being.
Seeing as how it's impossible to reproduce all the great dialogue going on there, here, I thought it might be a good idea for you to take a look at it. Did you? Have you weighed in on how "moral" and consistent our foreign policy has been?
Obama reacted to this latest situation immediately the way any sane, thinking, feeling human being would - with outrage and disgust. The same way many people in this world did - including myself.
But, you're not naive - right - because you know he's just plain dishonest? Because he ignores suffering in other parts of the world? So, then - you're in favor of him getting involved in the affairs of other nations then - or not? I'm confused.
100,000 dead - more groups than you can throw a shoe at fighting for control, displacement and war moving across the borders - in a region that's not stable to begin with? And you think we're going to destabilize things? Please.
Seems the whole world is going to opt out of this one - and we just might too.
And, we are already hated the world over - but that wasn't Obama's doing. There are people watching and waiting now to see what we will do - and believe you me, it's possible there will be a whole new level of hate coming that will last for years to come.
So, you want to assume - or presume - what I do or don't know? What does or doesn't bother me?
Is that how you argue? Really? It's a little bit chicken-crap of you - but, as you wish
Spare me - you have no idea.
But it's a fair question actually - I don't have a solution. Nobody does. But, this is a situation that demands the attention of the world. I feel the world should not just sit on the sidelines and watch while wringing their hands and offering up excuses and apologies later. And as I mentioned - if this wasn't a liberal president - you and I wouldn't even be having this friendly little chat.
So…dunno - I'm pretty sure bombing won't work. God knows what they've got stashed and where they've stashed it. Too many civilians - no clear targets - not sure which enemy is the biggest and baddest - there's so many to choose from. Not to mention Russia and Iran shuffling their feet in the shadows. It's a genuine bona fide pckle - isn't it?
I've asked you so many questions - you haven't bothered to answer any. How about just this one: Why do you think we haven't done anything yet?