Astral projection - can you do it?

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posted on Sep, 1 2013 @ 02:30 PM
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Hey guys


The reason for this thread is to help people (like me) who have been unsuccessful with obe/astral projection to be successful.

I'm asking anyone who reads this and has successfully astral projected to please share your wisdom with us.

I'm well aware that there is a lot of information on astral projection out there on the world wide internet, but I've come to realize that they all seem to generalize and different techniques work for different people.

Tips/stories very much appreciated!

Tell me about your experiences with astral projection




posted on Sep, 1 2013 @ 02:39 PM
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Bumping to read experiences.

I have never really tried nor have I accidentally projected myself outside my body. It would be cool (I think), so I will await the more experienced astral projector to come forth and shed light on this interesting subject.



posted on Sep, 1 2013 @ 02:41 PM
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Many years ago during my searching phase I began to study Raja Yoga. Basically yoga of the mind. This was very cool stuff centered around focused meditation and after many months had a couple out of body experiences. It was like being catapulted across the universe as opposed to drifting around locally.

It took intense levels of focusing on nothing, removing all thought that wasn't the internal spark so to speak. Never made it past that level and life being full of distractions led me in different directions.



posted on Sep, 1 2013 @ 02:44 PM
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I remember the first time I projected it was while I was meditating I got so excited I only held it for a few seconds. It gets easier and more awesome with practice. My favorite is flying through space, so much fun, and it makes you feel so good after just happy all day.

Remember to ground your self to this planet before you astro project or "bad" things can enter your body while your are away.



posted on Sep, 1 2013 @ 02:57 PM
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I've only projected once in my life, and only for a few seconds. I've been trying for years to find a method, but none have worked so I eventually just gave up.

Then, about 3 weeks ago, I was sitting in my backyard. I was incredibly intoxicated, and was just sitting with my eyes closed completely out of it. All of a sudden, I felt my spirit rising out of my body, so to speak. It was an odd sensation that I've never felt before. I was so excited/intoxicated that I immediately opened my eyes and started freaking out about my unintentional success.

Needless to say, it never happened again and made me incredibly angry



posted on Sep, 1 2013 @ 03:11 PM
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I've only had one experience. A few months ago I was in deep sleep when someone (some being of some sort?) that struck me as being male and happy to see me came and started to pull my astral self by the hand and I more or less began to sit up out of my body. Suddenly another entity (much stronger and seemed very large) pushed me back into my body by the top of my head. It seemed to give a strong impression that whoever was there was absolutely not to pull my astral body out like that. He seemed disappointed and left.

The whole experience was quite perplexing.

Does anyone here have any insight to offer?



posted on Sep, 1 2013 @ 03:38 PM
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Yes.

I began experiencing OBE sometime ago and, over the past 3-4 years, been inducing OBEs with about a 75%+/- success rate.

Those who experience random episodes of 'Waking SP' (Sleep Paralysis) are more likely to experience voluntary and involuntary OBEs than those people who have never experienced 'Waking SP'.

Many people have OBE and do not even realize they have. Answering the following question is good way to check if you have had an unidentified episode of OBE (not to be confused with Astral Project**);

Lying asleep in bed, having a dream, you get a real phone call. Irritated that someone is calling and waking you up, you reach for the phone and say hello. To your surprise, you hear the phone ring again and realize you just dreamed that you answered the phone.

- or -

Lying asleep in bed, having a dream, your alarm clock goes off. Irritated that it's time to wake up, you reach to the alarm and hit the 'snooze' button. To your surprise, you hear the alarm ring again and realize you just dreamed that you turned off the alarm.

Has this ever happened to you? If so, then you have had an OBE - although a very mild one.

If you understand that those exampled are small OBE's, then you should understand what it takes to have an induced OBE. The goal for inducing an OBE should be to re-create the conditions of the above examples.

If you realize you are asleep when you hear the phone or alarm, you become aware and you should be capable of extending the duration of the experience. You should be able to turn the experience into a true OBE.

Above, I noted that OBE & Astral Projection shouldn't be confused, though they commonly are.

The major difference between the two is that an OBE takes place in your reality. When you begin an OBE and you first 'get-out' of your body, the environment you enter into is nearly identical the the room you fell asleep in. The world you experience the OBE in is nearly identical to your waking reality... the house blue-print, your yard, the neighborhood and virtually every other place you visit during OBE, is the same as your everyday waking reality.

In Astral Projection, the environment is different than your everyday reality. This is why it is known as the 'Astral Plane'

A member sent me a u2u a few days ago, asking to share some tips with them. Below is a slightly edited version of my reply. Maybe this will help you a little...

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posted on Sep, 1 2013 @ 03:42 PM
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Question

When you leave the body.. how easily you can come back? I have had few experiences but im no sure am i lucid dreaming or having a real astral projection. Tell me the difference...



posted on Sep, 1 2013 @ 03:43 PM
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If you're having thoughts of getting into astral projection, please guys really stop and think what you're getting yourself into! Astral Projection is of the occult. You are opening yourself up to some very powerful entities that not only do not love you, but actually attempt to disguise themselves as angels of the light, but have sinister ideas to completely blind you, deceive you, overtake you, and ultimately destroy you. Demons are very real, and they are very manipulative and know how to prey upon human curiosity. Stay away from anything involving the occult- Ouija Boards, Tarot cards, palm readings, witch craft, voodoo, astral projection, channeling , reiki, all that is of the devil. That may sound too extreme and fundamental for you, believe me I laughed it all off when I dabbled into the occult as well, I endured a very rude awakening and only by the grace of Jesus I have come out of this. If you pray for the truth, and seek the truth God will show it to you, but he has warned us to stay away from the occult with good reason- he loves us and is actually the one who is protecting us, not the other way around!



posted on Sep, 1 2013 @ 03:46 PM
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There are several key things to consider before training yourself;

1. Do you now, or have you ever, experienced involuntary 'waking sleep paralysis' on multiple occasions?

I think 99% of people have experienced this at some point in their past, or they will experience in the future. However, 100% of people are capable of experiencing 'waking sleep paralysis'. In fact, every healthy person experiences SP each and every time they sleep.

If you have experienced involuntary 'waking sleep paralysis', you are more likely to experience OBE sooner that those who do not.

2. Have you experienced 'Lucid Dreaming' on one or more occassions?

This too can be an important factor in how long you may need to practice before inducing your first OBE.

Lucid dreaming is a dream where you are aware of being in a dreamstate.
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There is an alternate experience, known as 'Waking Dreams', that closely resembles 'Lucid Dreaming'. Both dreamstates take place in a dreamscape, created by your mind. The key difference between the two is:

Lucid Dreaming: You are fully aware of being in a dreamstate. Also, you have absolute control of everything that happens and everything you see, touch, taste, hear, or feel. You can do anything that you wish and make ANYTHING happen.

Waking Dreams: They are the same as Lucid Dreams, with one glaring difference. You are unable to control or have any influence of what you see, hear, or experience.
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It is important to know how sleeping works, the different phases of sleep, and the type of dreams you may experience.

This information will let you know that you are experiencing and can help guide you to the state you want to reach.

Sleep Paralysis is the foundation of OBE induction.

When we lay down to sleep, our bodies begin a process that eventually leads to REM sleep - the state in which we experience dreams.

Entering sleep state follows a chain of events. First we unconsciously fall asleep and a few moments later we enter SP.

The reasons for SP is so that we do not try to physically act out or dreams, which could lead to potential harm. The reason we fall asleep before it occurs is so that we do not realize we are paralyzed and freak out!

At it's core, OBE relies solely on our ability to manipulate the events of our natural sleep process. In order to induce OBE, you must change the order, so that you enter SP BEFORE you enter unconscious sleep.

This is where the focus of practice should be.

I will give you a brief description of inducing SP and OBE, but, if you'd like to learn more, you should have a look at the basics of OBE induction in a few videos found on youtube. Simply search 'OBE Inducing', or 'How to have an OBE', or 'Learn how to OBE or Astral Travel'

Also, if you're a multi-millionaire, I'd really appreciate you sending me a million or so - otherwise, it's free 

Inducing Sleep Paralysis and Out-Of-Body-Experiences:

Make sure the area you plan to do this in can be very dark, basically pitch-black. It should also be a place of absolute silence. It is best to attempt OBE in this way, because this environment is a very weak form of sensory deprivation.

Lie down in a supine position (on your back). Get extremely comfortable - a position you can fall asleep in, a comfort level in which you don't have to move around while going to sleep.

You must do everything in your power to remain consciously awake, but relaxed, and with 0 movement.

You may feel yourself losing consciousness as you doze off. Be sure to identify this if it happens, taking special care to remain 100% motion-free.

Remain still in your position and continue working towards deeper and deeper relaxation, while maintaining continued consciousness.

When SP initiates, you will begin experiencing a brand new feeling. It can be overwhelming and could cause you to snap out of it and fully wake-up.

Lying on your back, and beginning at your toe tips, you will begin to feel a pressure sensation slowly creep up your feet, to your calves, then thighs, followed by your torso, then your head.

It feels like you may imagine a heavy blanket made of iron would feel if it were slowly draped over your bady, moving from your feet upwards.

Once this heavy weight encompasses your body, you may begin experiencing auditory or visual hallucinations - auditory are most common and they sound like one of those 'rain-sticks' ( a hollow cylinder with interior pegs and hundreds of bb's inside. You turn it upside down to hear the bb's fall across the pegs )

Once you reach this point you need to induce the OBE. That means you must now get out of your body.

The best way I can describe how trying to separate feels is by comparing it to how it feels when trying to pull 2 magnets apart.

I simply try to roll over. It takes me 2-3 attempts at rolling over before I am able to separate. However, some people have trouble at this point and must develop a method for separation that works best for them.

One method is to imagine that you are climbing one of those long ropes, attached to a gym cieling. Your astral self will literally climb right out of your body.

You must also remember to stay calm and do not become frightened. That sounds easy enough, but a couple of hallmarks of conscious sleep paralysis and the beginning of OBE is an outrageously ridiculous feeling of fear - it can best be described as feeling the presence of an entity made of 'pure evil'. You must realize this is not really real.

I believe our bodies have evolved this mechanism of pure evil fear as a way to make us wake up. Our body realizes that our sleep process has changed (SP before unconcious sleep) and this evil fear is an alarm that startles us awake and allows us to re-start the sleep process.

It is important to learn how to supress the feelings, in order to go deeper into OBE.

Once you have successfully achieved separation you must try to remain calm, but it is the most difficult thing to do, because of the excitement and the extreme emotional feelings. You will feel so much love that many compare it to what they imagine a state of pure ecstacy might feel - I agree.

When you 'get out' of your body, you may be suprised to see that you are in the identical room you entered OBE in. EVERYTHING is identical to the real world, but you may notice subtle differences, like a different color on the walls, or a different type os window shade.

If you can remain calm and etend your experience, you will find that the laws of physics do not apply in any way.

You can fly, you can walk through walls, etc.

Each attempt you make should bring you closer and closer to success.


**sorry for any tyops or if something seems out of place. I'm not the best editor, but it should make sense.
If you have any questions about this, feel free to ask here or U2U me.

Good Luck!!



posted on Sep, 1 2013 @ 03:51 PM
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I have had over 200 self induced out of body experiences. I'm not to the point where i can do it at will but it is possible.
Here's what i do (every night almost).
Lay down. Relax your body as much as possible. This is key. Tense and relax each muscle in your body starting with your feet working up to your head. Do it two times till your body is very relaxed. Each breath let your mind and body sink in to deeper relaxation. It also helps to do it after you wake up in the morning because your body is already completely relaxed.

Once my body is relaxed I start focusing on energy breathing. I know it sounds ridiculous to the uninformed mind but the 99% of empty space your body is composed of is actually conscious energy. Your body actually has a measurable electromagnetic field that extends far past your body.
So imagine breathing in every or any color of energy possible. With every in breath imagine breathing in pure energy charging up your soul. With every out breath think of sinking deeper and deeper into relaxation. Don't let your mind wander. It is very important to stay as focused on energy and relaxation as possible. It could take an hour to get to the state you want. Stay focused on slowing your mind down, dismiss any thoughts coming into your mind. Clear your head as much as possible. As you breathe out imagine your body actually falling down. (you know the falling feeling you get before you fall asleep) Thats what you want to induce. I usually picture my body falling through a black void of space, eventually you will feel your body falling and spinning and flipping.

This is you becoming aware of your consciousness outside your body. Now from here your basically already out of your body. Relax your mind, don't be afraid, and try to see. It might be all black at first but relax, at this point you can let your mind think about what it wants and you will start seeing the dreamscape you projected to.

Another thing that happens to me after doing the energy work and meditations is i will start hearing a high pitched vibrating noise in my brain. I focus on this vibration and make it increase in intensity. It gets to the point where the sound and vibration completely consume you, I literally thought i was going to die the first time i did this, but you have to realize that this is completely normal and you will be completely find when you wake up. Anyway after the vibration completely consumes you it gets so intense that you literally feel your soul pop out of your body and your standing there or floating right there in your room next to your body.

ANOTHER thing that happens to me... Sometimes nothing happens and I can't fall asleep. I give up trying to project. I'm lying there trying to sleep and it will feel like my bed is shaking. I used to think it was small earthquakes (used to it being from california) but it was actually my consciousness, soul, astral body, whatever you want to call it, loosening its grips on my physical body. So, I intensify these small shakes until I really feel my body shaking around, (it feels like your real body is violently shaking but its not) Eventually i will pop out and end up in my room or some other astral realm.

Just warning I started doing this about 10 years ago. Im 28 now and have gone through some serious bad luck. It is my belief now that the people in these astral realms are real people. Treat them with respect. I don't say that lightly. I believe with this ability comes great responsibility. Be the best person you know how to be in the astral realms and in physical waking life or karma will get you. Seriously.



posted on Sep, 1 2013 @ 04:05 PM
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Oh and people who say this is from the devil are completely ignorant of the spiritual nature of the human being. Every single night you astral project, they are called dreams. The difference here is you are consciously doing it. There are demon realms and angelic realms and earth realms for sure. The ability to navigate through these realms and even create them yourself consciously is only understanding the multidimensionality of human consciousness more fully. Do not be afraid in these realms. You have to understand that your feelings create your surroundings. If your afraid then something is going to be drawn to that to scare you even more. If you are excited then something is going to be drawn to that energy. If you want to learn, the conscious energy we are all connected to will show you what you need to learn.
Anyway my point is don't believe the people who tell you its satanic, it is only a misunderstanding of consciousness on their part



posted on Sep, 1 2013 @ 04:11 PM
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I've been trying for so many years, tried countless methods, but I'm not going to give up. All except meditation, I work 10 hours a day 5 days a week, I have wife and a 18 month old and a 3 month old. I haven't got 5 minutes to myself let alone time to meditate. I smoke and I drink weekends.

By definition I'm pretty screwed, websites say be peaceful, be relaxed, don't be over tired for bed.

So back to the op, I could do with some help myself, recently visited john starkey, an English psychic, said he would help me for free, I'll post any information I get from that.



posted on Sep, 1 2013 @ 04:18 PM
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Booyakasha- You make some strong points, and I totally agree with you on the fact that we astral project in a sense when we dream. But that is natural and not forced. My problem with deliberately delving deep into consciousness, is normally it stems from a deep seated "wanting'. A desire for the supernatural, for pure self discovery. There's nothing wrong with strong desire to connect with the truth, our source ( God) But the problem with a lot of these new age movements is they are essentially promoting the idea among it's students that it is ok to search for these things ( true) but they strongly discourage you to ever connect with the one true God. The God that came down and humbly died on a cross for humanity so that we could be reconciled, forgiven and regenerated with a whole new life through the gift of the holy spirit. It is actually bordering on complete insanity, and is a well established pattern that a lot of the new age practices are very umcomfortable around the word Jesus Christ, and strongly discourage people from adopting biblical based beliefs. They offer half truths that prey on the vulnerable ( because we all are flesh and have a yearning for God, it's written in our hearts, minds and souls) so we fall prey to all these forms of enlightenment etc...
The problem is they all lead one to believe they can align with consciousness and become like God. If we all had the ability to be God's we would be able to cure many of the world's ills but we cannot because we are flesh and blood. There are no special enlightened "ascended masters" Only human beings who've allowed themselves to be vessels for either the spirit of God, of legions of demons that control them, blind them, deceive them...
If you think all I am saying is bogus I strongly encourage you to watch this documentary called " the age of deceit" . It will change your whole life, and not just leave you with with leftovers, but give you the full course meal, It will show you documented facts that expose the new age movement, and how it ties in with the new world order

God Bless



posted on Sep, 1 2013 @ 04:20 PM
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a Must watch guys



posted on Sep, 1 2013 @ 04:30 PM
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Thanks everyone, some very interesting and helpful insights here!

Keep 'em coming because this is helpful to all fellow ATSers who wish to learn more from personal experiences


Try not to get discouraged if you are attempting this, and try to feel both love and light.

Regards!



posted on Sep, 1 2013 @ 04:52 PM
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Hey freedom. I am going to have to disagree with your belief in a historical jesus christ. I was raised Catholic and have researched Jesus very much. I believe Jesus is a metaphor for the sun. His 12 apostles are the 12 constellations of the zodiac. Watch Santos Bonacci's videos if you have any doubt in this. This is a complete other subject thought. Although I do believe the bible, along with other cultures holy books are written as metaphor to aid in the complete understanding of human consciousness. As above so below. It kind of does have everything to do with what we are talking about but on a whole other level.

Anyway I do not subscribe to any new age movement. I research the questions I have with a completely open mind and dismiss whatever I do not agree with. Religion is another way to keep humanity ignorant of their true spirituality.



posted on Sep, 1 2013 @ 05:58 PM
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personally I have found I need to use some means of elevation, and in my own particular case I use more than one way, no need for me to tell you about getting relaxed as this is posted and well described in other posts above,
I imagine I am floating just above the treetops. lots of trees not just a few, its as if I were in a hot air baloon, but I dont imagine the baloon, just that I am smoothly moving over the tree tops and looking down at the passing landscape,
I sometimes imagine I am in a lift, but it's not just 5 or 6 or 12 floors up, there isnt a limit, I elevate myself by feeling the sensation of being in the lift and going up and up and up..
and other times I imagine I am seated in a car, viewing the long road ahead, the car I am in is travelling pretty fast and it goes around turns and I can see the road ahead its slowly rising , but always rising and I am in a car travelling fast along a rising road, or highway if you like.. but anyway, it's how I trigger my astral projection, I find it must always be something that elevates you... never going downward, well for me anyway this is the case... It is a wonderful experience to astral project, the freedom and the peace and feeling of being as one, is just wonderful. I find to travel to anywhere it is just a thought process. and you are there, a new land, or somewhere you know. I find if I go to a new land I am flying, not with wings, just in the air moving smoothly and pretty quickly, and you see below you. sometimes people. or beautiful scenery. anyway, thats just what I experience, but the best part is the feeling of being free and at one with yourself... sometimes you think of not coming back. but of course its the people in your life on earth that you can't let down. so you come back... hmpf! nothing bad or weird or scary has ever happened to me, its always been a lovely feeling...



posted on Sep, 1 2013 @ 06:17 PM
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I have only had 4 OBEs, not counting those aborted after a few seconds, but I'll throw what worked for me here, just in case it helps someone.

I tried for a long time without sucess, and tried almost every method there is. One day I tried meditation and that same night I was able to achive my first OBE. For mr meditation is the key, the deeper the meditation the easier it is.

First do the meditation, then do the projection using any method.

Also I have found if I am tired, I cannot achieve an OBE, so don't be tired when you try, if thats often the case, try a method, where you sleep, then wake then project.

Also another thing, if trying a method, where you go from waking to OBE, the sleep paralysis part is really intense, I aborted quite a lot of the OBE before they even started, because I was not able to go through the sleep paralysis part.

If you can lucid dream, then going through the dream would be easier. Just enter any lucid dream, and use a door or mirror as gateway to an OBE.

For those who are confused between an OBE and and Lucid Dreams, its simple, if you are not sure then you had a Lucid Dream. When you have an OBE you just know it.

But I also have a way to objectively test it. When in an OBE, go to some place you have never been before, but where you can go during waking time, like maybe a side road somewhere you go, but you never went down the side road. Go during the OBE and remember as many details as possible, the type of houses, number of them colour, type of fence, type of gates if any, any special features in any of the houses, and so on. Then go during the day and see if you were right. If you have an LD the details will be wrong, but for an OBE they will be right.

You can do it in your own home, if you have someone to help you. Give someone an item or two to place randonly, but within sight, in a room that you do not often go to. Then don't go in the room or even look in it until the OBE, then during the OBE go and see where it has been placed, get as many details as possible, location, orientation, what is next to it, and so on. Then after the obe go and check if what you saw was correct. If correct its an OBE if not an LD.



posted on Sep, 1 2013 @ 06:43 PM
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Very good description, that is just like my experiences. I have never really taught myself to do it or meditated to achieve it ( i might be lucid dreaming... still don´t see the difference


I started to experience these when i was preteen. I get to the state easily i get into the sleep mode in just a couple minutes, sometimes when lying down i tell myself where i want to be, like being in the air and above trees/mountains and i get there or starting from the same place i was before. Flying very fast but still its peaceful over the trees and old cities even space but earth is in sight. Everytime there is a feel of harmony. Coming down from air feels like having a invisible breaks like car breaks, not instantly but using breaks two to three times.. slowing down.. entering and touching ground is light.

I have seen others flying in the air same time not many less than a dozen, others experienced the same ?





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