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To be the exact same size is quite a coincidence! There’s an infinite amount of space out there, and yet the moon just happens to be at the only position in our entire universe that enables it to cause the perfect eclipse.
Of course it wouldn't be our moon if it didnt orbit the earth, but I didn't say that. We all know what I meant, it's the closest think to earth and it creates a damn near perfect eclipse.
Originally posted by Phage
The only place in the entire universe. That's quite a statement. If the Moon were anywhere but in orbit around the Earth, it wouldn't be the Moon. But you're wrong about the relationship, it ain't perfect.
Thats right, I said in the OP that it varies, I did didn't I!! But the point is that moon IS in just the right position to create an eclipse, an eclipse that from our viewpoint is so perfect it covers the sun perfectly! Not always I know, but often enough for us to notice it, to draw our attention!!
Originally posted by Phage
The distance of the Moon from Earth varies, depending on the time of the month, from 364,397 km to 406,731 km, with an average of 384,748 km.
The moon is the perfect size to square the circumference of the earth!
You dont know Sorry Phage, I don't believe you, your just trying to play it down.
Originally posted by Phage
No idea what you are talking about. What does "square the circumference" mean?
If we take the earths diameter, 5040 miles,
Originally posted by Phage
No. The diameter of the Earth is 7,926 miles.
and the earth plus moons radius, 7920 miles,
The sum of the radii of both the Earth and Moon (in miles) is 3960 + 1080 = 5040. Earths diameter at the equator = 7920. I got them the wrong way around that's all (but I dont claim to be an expert), very surprised you didn't notice that though? or maybe you did?
Originally posted by Phage No. The radius of the Moon is 1,079 miles Add them together and you get 9,005 miles. Spooooky.
I fudged by get 2 numbers the wrong way around, thats all. Might I suggest you watch the Munck film I linked too? Many people have watched it and confirmed his results, would be nice to hear your expert opinion on what he has to say.
Originally posted by PhageBut if you want to keep fudging numbers and performing odd arithmetic to come with something "amazing", be my guest.
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan
I looked much better than that a thousand years ago.
Yes, the silly arithmetic convolutions (not to mention the rather loose mixing of the various units) doesn't really impress me.
Originally posted by paradiselost333
This is one of the best threads I have seen on ATS,
and very well put together
This all points to a creator whether that be the all knowing "god" or Advanced beyond what our brains can understand "ETs" is up for debate .
no way all this just happened
Can you provide an example of an eclipse when there was an exact match?
Not always I know, but often enough for us to notice it, to draw our attention!!
No. I don't know what you mean by "square the circumference" maybe you could actually explain it rather than accusing me of lying. The drawing talks about squaring the circle, I do know what that means. The area of that square is 50,858,349 and the area of the circle is 49,343,981. They don't seem to match. Or is it "close enough"? Only off by a million and a half or so.
You dont know Sorry Phage, I don't believe you, your just trying to play it down.
The sum of the radii of both the Earth and Moon (in miles) is 3960 + 1080 = 5040.
No thanks. Silly fudging, arithmetic manipulations, and mixing of units doesn't impress me.
Might I suggest you watch the Munck film I linked too? Many people have watched it and confirmed his results, would be nice to hear your expert opinion on what he has to say.
The speed of light in a vacuum is constant.
What about the great constants, like LIGHT SPEED! They vary, they are not constant!
The sum of the radii of both the Earth and Moon (in miles) is 3960 + 1080 = 5040.
Yes it is VERY close, certainly close enough to draw attention.
Originally posted by Phage
No. The sum of the radii is actually closer to 5,043. Wait, let me guess..."close enough". Except it sort of messes those other claims up. So let's just round the number until it makes us go "wow".
Your figures, and yes that is pretty close, maybe if you measure it tomorrow it'll agree with my figures.
Originally posted by Phage
The area of that square is 50,858,349 and the area of the circle is 49,343,981.
Coincidences do occur obviously, but so many? It just doesnt seem normal to me
Originally posted by dlbott
As I see it the more advanced we get the the more it appears there was a creator, whether it was god or some advanced alien race playing with the Stars or whatever. The older I get the less I believe in coincidence just based on my own life experiences.
I agree about the structures, just not possible in my opinion. As for the stones and the shockingly amazing fit! It occurred to me why the need for such accuracy. So I had another look at some of the photo's and I couldn't help but wonder whether they are water tight? If someone could prove that to be true that would add a whole new line of thought.
Originally posted by dlbott
Forget the math, I look at these fantastic ancient structures built all around the earth and I see structures that I believe were impossible for our ancient ancestors to build by themselves. Some of the stone work that fits perfectly together like Legos found in Peru I think it is. We have great difficulty creating these inlaid cut stones today much less then.
Originally posted by dlbott
I think the OP was a great one. Thanks enjoyed it.
The Bot
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan
I looked much better than that a thousand years ago.
Yes, the silly arithmetic convolutions (not to mention the rather loose mixing of the various units) doesn't really impress me.
Author William Neil recently contacted me and I learned from reading his site that the Tropic of Cancer is 66.6 degrees from the North pole, the Tropic of Capricorn is 66.6 degrees from the South Pole, the Equator is 66.6 degrees from the Arctic and Antarctic circles, and the Earth’s average orbital speed is 66,666 miles per hour (99.9%).
These repetitions of sixes also remind me of how the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem is 666 nautical miles from the Kaaba in Mecca. The Eastern cornerstone of the Kaaba contains fragments of the meteoric Black Stone venerated at the site long before Muhammad was born. The Haj pilgrimage to the Black Stone in Mecca syncs with the pilgrimage to Black Rock City.
“The Black Rock” was also a mysterious 19th century sailing ship that was a key symbol in the television show Lost, shipwrecked on an island that was lost in time. It is interesting that the avenues in BRC are named after times on a clock face, such as 3:30, 6:30, and so on.
I noticed that the central axis of BRC leads directly to Santiago de Compostela in Spain. This is significant because the Cathedral there has been a major pilgrimage destination since the 9th century. Over 100,000 Catholic pilgrims still travel to Santiago de Compostela each year from all over the world. Is Burning Man aligned to become the secular pilgrimage destination of the new world?
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by FriedBabelBroccoli
Again with the convienient rounding of numbers. The Tropics are actually 66.56º from each pole and its sort silly to make something of them both being at that latitude since the Earth is very nearly spherical. If there is a big difference between them, now that would be interesting. But the fact that we use 360º to a circle is somewhat arbitrary so assigning any significance to the values is also pretty arbitrary.
The Earth's average orbital velocity is 66,671.23 mph. But so what? It's also 18.519 miles/sec and 107,297 km/hr. Again, arbitrary values to go "wow" about. In sixteenth century england the length of the mile would have put the orbital velocity at 70,405 mph (with a "mile" of 5,000 feet). Wow.
And to demonstrate how silly it is, notice how you have to switch to nautical miles to go "gosh" about the distance between the Dome of the Rock and the Kaaba because in statute miles (the units used for the orbital velocity "wow") the distance would be 767 miles. Wow.
If you're willing to play fast and loose with accuracy. If you're willing to jump through ridiculous arithmetic hoops. If you're willing to completely ignore the mixing of units used and arbitrarily select them after the fact, and if you have too much time on your hands, you can find a way to go "wow" over just about anything you choose.
edit on 9/1/2013 by Phage because: (no reason given)
Math is incorrect the earth diameter is not 5000 its almost 8000....