‘What is Government? Elementary Students Taught That It's LIke Your Family, page 1

posted on Aug, 31 2013 @ 06:15 AM

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Teachers in Skokie Illinois are teaching fourth-grade students at East Prairie School that the government is like their family. The fluffy and luvvy comparison between what a family is and what the teachers cleaned up version of government is, is made. Children have been taught to love and trust their families so naturally the children will transfer that love to the government since it is so much like their families (supposedly). The school says that this isn't political but I totally disagree. Even if I give the teachers the benefit of the doubt and accept that they aren't trying to indoctrinate (the NEA is notoriously far left so I have no doubt that they ARE indoctrinating) ... the fact is that what they are doing DOES indoctrinate, no matter if the intent to indoctrinate (allegedly) isn't there.

I'm sure that there will be people here who don't see a problem with this. However, IMHO, this is worse than a 'nanny state' mentality. These children are being indoctrinated to not only accept a nanny state mentality, but to love it and trust it. It's psychological. And yes, teachers take psychology classes so they can't claim ignorance on this.

What Is Government? Elementary Students Taught It's Your Family

“Government is all of the agencies, departments, organizations, groups, individuals in a nation who make, carry out, enforce, and manage conflicts about rules and laws,” the worksheet says.

“Government is like a nation’s family. Families take care of children and make sure they are safe, healthy and educated, and free to enjoy life. Families encourage children to be independent hardworking and responsible,” it continues. “Families make and enforce rules and give appropriate punishments when rules are broken. Government does these things for its citizens, too.”

And from the book 1984 -

1984 Sparknotes

Big Brother

Throughout London, Winston sees posters showing a man gazing down over the words “BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU” everywhere he goes. Big Brother is the face of the Party. The citizens are told that he is the leader of the nation and the head of the Party, but Winston can never determine whether or not he actually exists. In any case, the face of Big Brother symbolizes the Party in its public manifestation; he is a reassurance to most people (the warmth of his name suggests his ability to protect), but he is also an open threat (one cannot escape his gaze). Big Brother also symbolizes the vagueness with which the higher ranks of the Party present themselves—it is impossible to know who really rules Oceania, what life is like for the rulers, or why they act as they do. Winston thinks he remembers that Big Brother emerged around 1960, but the Party’s official records date Big Brother’s existence back to 1930, before Winston was even born.

alpha888

posted on Aug, 31 2013 @ 06:18 AM

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Very true, government is the father. Government helps you get a license and even helps you buy food through
SNAP. But when you make father angry he takes it away from you, so you do as your told...

like when father took the car from you for coming home at 3am.

beezzer

posted on Aug, 31 2013 @ 06:19 AM

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reply to post by FlyersFan

T'is why we homeschool beez jr.

This type of indoctrination just won't stand!

Meaningless

posted on Aug, 31 2013 @ 06:34 AM

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If family had 10000 nukes.

"Families take care of children and make sure they are safe, healthy and educated" LOL WHAT? Did they just say, like families, they make sure children are SAFE and HEALTHY? ARE YOU #ING KIDDING ME?

FlyersFan

posted on Aug, 31 2013 @ 06:36 AM

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We homeschooled until 5th grade. By then, our daughter was rock solid in her ability to recognize B.S. when it came from teachers and so it was safer for her to go to school. And no, we didn't do public school. The public schools here in the city are pretty bad ....

beezzer

posted on Aug, 31 2013 @ 06:46 AM

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Our son had been "diagnosed" with ADD/ADHD and previous schools wanted him drugged.

We said no.

(my advanced degree in developmental neurobiology shut the teachers up quick!)

We're now looking at our son "graduating" high school at the age of 16. And going to junior college after.

Shiloh7

posted on Aug, 31 2013 @ 07:04 AM

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I don't fancy the chances for people, either from the warren or elsewhere, that the bit fluffy-bunny takes a dislike to - one should always remember that big fluffy bunnies always have huge, kick-ass feet to flatten naughty tiny bunnies with and a set of teeth to match said paws.

wrabbit2000

posted on Aug, 31 2013 @ 07:09 AM

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If this Government is like family, someone call Social Services for an intervention! We need case workers by the dozen! Quick!

Of course, this is Illinois. Where tyranny isn't just a theory, it's a way of life.

kaylaluv

posted on Aug, 31 2013 @ 07:20 AM

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Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by FlyersFan

T'is why we homeschool beez jr.

This type of indoctrination just won't stand!

And isn't it good that the "big bad 'ole government" has no problem with you homeschooling your kids?

Families encourage children to be independent hardworking and responsible,”

Isn't that what you want your government to do as well? Is that such a bad analogy?

Look, this is only one worksheet out of about 50 or so that a fourth grader will do in a school year. Do I remember any of the worksheets I did when I was in fourth grade? Do you? This is much ado about nothing, IMHO.

alpha888

posted on Aug, 31 2013 @ 07:25 AM

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Then why does government undermine parents at all turns and corners.

GENERAL EYES

posted on Aug, 31 2013 @ 07:33 AM

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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

I grew up without any classical indoctrination of this nature, but considering my father was an employee of the Government, I always felt grateful for the instution that made it possible for us to have a roof over our heads and food on our table.

It wasn't a plush life by any means, quite humble really, and needless to say I wasn't the most popular kid at school because of my military roots and public sentiment at the time (and to some degree, crurently) towards the Armed Forces.

I personally think a motion of this nature isn't all entirely bad - if these children are raised with a foundation that Government is a good thing, maybe they'll know they are a valid and intergral part of the Bigger Picture. Right now there is an understandable sense of seperation anxiety between the People and the Higher Institutions due to recent events...especially for the older generations.

When important social issues begin to affect these young adults, their communities and overall well being of their Country they'll hopefully be more pro-active at being active participants in the Democratic Process. Voting, writing letters to their Congressmen and Women, or even just voting at the local level.

I know that sounds terribly optimistic of me, but I still have hope for the future.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.

thisguyrighthere

posted on Aug, 31 2013 @ 07:36 AM

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Government is like family.

They use force to perpetuate the myth that they "know better" than you do.

They steal from you.

They blame you for their problems.

They later call you to bail them out of their problems.

They're irrational and reactionary.

If you dont bow to the almighty "because I said so" you'll get a whoopin'.

They can do things with wanton abandon that you arent allowed to do.

I could go on but yes, government is exactly like family.

Shiloh7

posted on Aug, 31 2013 @ 07:37 AM

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Government here is only too grateful because they have not provided enough places in the schools for this year's intake and our schools have long been overcrowded, merely to pack-em-in. suspect they wish there were more responsible and caring Beezer's around.

FlyersFan

posted on Aug, 31 2013 @ 07:38 AM

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Originally posted by kaylaluv
And isn't it good that the "big bad 'ole government" has no problem with you homeschooling your kids?

Actually, the government does have problems with it. The left wing teachers unions are ticked because all the kids who are homeschooled aren't in the public schools so the teachers lose jobs and schools lose money. So the far left NEA is constantly bringing the government in and trying to get homeschooling shut down .. or legislated into oblivion

Home School Legal Defense Association
Check out the site. The government is constantly trying to interfere.

FlyersFan

posted on Aug, 31 2013 @ 07:39 AM

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Now that you mention it .. the government is widely dysfunctional .. much like many families.
So you do have a good point.

alpha888

posted on Aug, 31 2013 @ 07:42 AM

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Your father was an employee of the people.
What is the military?
The military Feeds you and houses you.
The military is your family and father, equates to socialism.
Taken care of by the state. Rewarded and punished by the very same who feed and house you.
Later they worry about the retirement check.
Paid for and by who? the family

While in the military you do not have the same freedoms as
regular civilians.

GENERAL EYES

posted on Aug, 31 2013 @ 07:51 AM

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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

I've very well aware of the fact that I don't have the same freedoms as civilians. I also feel I have a greater degree of responsibility to ensure those freedoms are maintained. It's not just kicking back and doodling on walls with a sharpie marker.

RIght now I'm protesting the "proposed" attack on Syria because I don't feel it's in Americas best interests. I'm at least trying to be involved in the process aside from just pointing fingers and laying blame.

If you consider that being "Socialist", I'm very sorry you feel that way.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.

alpha888

posted on Aug, 31 2013 @ 07:53 AM

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Been there dude... military is socialist
Best thing to do is get out.
Dont be a victim.

GENERAL EYES

posted on Aug, 31 2013 @ 07:57 AM

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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Last thing I'm gonna do is let myself fall down the wayside. But I need to get ready for some of the days routines and community involvement, so this will be my last posting in thread for the time being. Have a wonderful day out there. Thanks for understanding. Peace.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.

alpha888

posted on Aug, 31 2013 @ 08:01 AM

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peace