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(6 Nov 2004) Russian media reports that China has suspended the production of Su-27SK fighter jets under their Russian license. According to Chinese military officials, these planes no longer satisfy the requirements of the PLA Air Force.
Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
....now watch them refine it to suit them more fully and build their own version?
Originally posted by taobo33
i have this Q long ago....
A little clarification may be in order. The SU-27SK's that are built from kits are the J-11. These are built under license, and it is apparently this agreement that China is canceling. The WS-10A is the Chinese version of the AL-31F. China wants ASM capabilities, and the SU-27SK/J-11 are not ASM capable. The SU-30MK2 is however, and China plans to build this version as the J-11A. Presumably the J-11A will use the WS-10A with tvc. J-11's and J-10's will probably not have tvc, at least to start.
Originally posted by ShatteredSkies
And other people have also posted information and references that these are liscenced, so technically it is not copying. And the Chinese modify these aircraft when they call it their own. And the J-10, I have seen pictures of it, it is a combination of an F-16 and Su-27(comsetically). So I do not believe the Russians or any other country has made an aircraft like that.
Shattered OUT...
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Originally posted by Blackout
Originally posted by taobo33
i have this Q long ago....
Apparently he's from India, the land of "wonderful" tech support.
He thinks the Indian AF is superior to the USAF for some odd reason .
I don't know if he thinks the IAF is superior to the PLAAF, but he likes to complain about the Chinese use of outside technologies.
All is fair, he can keep to his opinions, but he needs to wake up to reality:
IAF: ~500 planes
USAF: ~2,200 planes
PLAAF: ~3,000 planes
Russia: ~9,000 planes
The USAF, or any Western/Chinese/Russian AF, would bomb the IAF flat in one day in a similar manner to what Hitler did to Poland's AF in 1939. In fact, most people think Poland never had an AF lol.
Now, I don't mean to bash on India the way he bashes on the US and other countries' air forces, but I'm simply stating the truth. The IAF sucks, face it, and stop reporting to us how the IAF "beat" the USAF in minor areas; it's annoying �.�.
P.S. Yes, I do get annoyed by those that take patriotism to the extreme and just can't realize that there are other countries out there better than theirs. Try and be open-minded, no country is superior in every area.
Originally posted by BlackoutIAF: ~500 planes
USAF: ~2,200 planes
PLAAF: ~3,000 planes
Russia: ~9,000 planes
Originally posted by Blackout
The USAF, or any Western/Chinese/Russian AF, would bomb the IAF flat in one day in a similar manner to what Hitler did to Poland's AF in 1939. In fact, most people think Poland never had an AF lol.
Now, I don't mean to bash on India the way he bashes on the US and other countries' air forces, but I'm simply stating the truth. The IAF sucks, face it, and stop reporting to us how the IAF "beat" the USAF in minor areas; it's annoying �.�.
Well, the US sunk $2Bn. into the AC. It used a Pratt-Whitney engine, composite wings by Grumman, and US made flight control computers. There was a great deal of US involvement in the development, and US manufacture of many subsystems. When the US pulled the plug on finances, the project died. So I don't know why you object to it being called a joint US/Israeli project.
Also the Lavi was an Israeli national venture in which the US provided assistance and advice, which is not quite the same as being a 'US/Israeli project' as this would imply joint development, manufacture and service which was never an option.
Originally posted by Dima
i am absolutely sickened by what china is doing, i am a brand new member to this site, and i would like o know how to get an avatar, adn um, where can i get a signature, like i want to write one down" For Mother Russia(well actually Moldova)"
anyways, china is rally pissing me off, just, their rampant copying of all types of weapons is really annoying, they ruin the naem of that weapon, i hope someone will teach them a lesson soon, cpoomon america, u have nothing to be afraid of lol, except their like 400 million possible soldiers