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Originally posted by Ryanp5555
you ask, why live my life for God? well if God didn't create my life i wouldn't be able to live it, there fore i live it for God. A 50/50 chance of there being a God... lol, 50% chance is HUGE. Are you really gonna let 50% chance slip through your hands? I'll tell you what, i will take my "50% chance of him existing" and you take your "50% chance of him not existing" and have fun in hell.
Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
Yup, it is not a theory. Hypothesis, but not a theory.
Originally posted by Killak420
What do you beleive in?
Every one is in need of a shepard you probably just found it somewhere else. The bible is not the only tool you can use for guidence and wisdom.
And I agree with you on the not trusting a wolve in sheeps clothing but you should always respect and love those sheep in wolves clothing(love thy enemy).
Originally posted by satchbfoot
now stories told my word of mouth slowly change, correct?
Originally posted by Hawker
Just keep in mind in those days they didn't have the massive amount of the written word to depend on. Man in those days kept the story word for word as best they could. The American Indians are a good example of this. They were taught from birth to recite their history and their stories word for word. The Jews have kept the Tora (the 1st 5 books of the Bible) word for word, period for period, since the beginning. It has only been since the printed word that man has not depended on keeping the story straight that he tells by mouth.
So I would tend to think ancient man told the story more accurately again and again compared to modern man.
Originally posted by defcon5
You don’t have to suffer to repent do you? If you consider following God’s word or Law suffering, then you only further push my point. I actually enjoy reading God’s word, and studying not only it, but other things that are connected to it. That does not sound like suffering to me. This is the point of life in my book:
Phi 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
I was simply stating that this was your stance in regards to Earthly Pleasure, that you should attain Heaven here on Earth.
Ps: there is a religion that states exactly the same doctrine that you stated here, but you are not going to like what it is called.
Since Satanism is essentially a religion of the self, it holds that the individual and his personal needs comes first
Again refer to the quote and link above. According to the Bible, in the end times men will be mainly guilty of worshiping false gods. The god that they will be worshipping is themselves…
2Ti 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2Ti 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
2Ti 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers,
incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
2Ti 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
This is what is fundamentally wrong with your philosophy.
As to your last question, I have no idea what you engage in, you simply stated that you where all about Heaven here and now, instant gratification.
Now I have shown you what is wrong with that philosophy from a Christian perspective, it was not a personal attack, so lets leave it at that.
Originally posted by an3rkist
I said this in reply to another post, but I'll say it again because I think it's relevant. I have read the Bible, and while doing so I started asking the question, "Where do the truths start and the parables begin?" I mean, everyone seems to think that there was DEFINITELY an Adam and Eve, two REAL people in a real Garden, and that there was a REAL tree and real fruit and all that. How do we know that this wasn't just a parable? A story with a good moral? Or how about Noah and the Ark? How do we know there really was a Noah and really was an Ark and that he really did take two of every animal on board with him and his family. I mean, I'm not going to pretend like I understood the majority of the Bible, because it's big and long and written in a language not different from my own, but not the same either. And I don't know how much of the Bible has been PROVEN by historians or archaelogists or anything, but sometimes I wonder if the Bible isn't a book that was written as a fictitious book of stories, and people were misled to think it was non-fiction. The same thing has happened to some extent with books like "The Da Vinci Code" and such. People took books like that as fact without question. Although I don't think "The Da Vinci Code" will ever be considered scripture, because everyone knows it's a lot of made up stuff, it's kind of a theory along the same lines. The fact is, the Bible is littered with random parables, and, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think anyone can claim to be able to discern where the parables start and the truth begins.
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
Ok first of all in the first paragraph of the bible it talks of god creating oceans of water, land beautiful vegetation and birds flying around... that would be the ideal begining right? well some places dont have night and day and birds definetly didnt fly around at the begining of time maybe a #ing taradactle a billion years later.. its all morals writtin at a time of a man thats it
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
I don't know when this stuff was all posted or if you are still reading and updating this, but, if you are going to make your arguments, make them right please.