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Fast-food walkout U.S. workers strike in several cities to call attention to low wages.

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posted on Aug, 30 2013 @ 12:01 PM
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Originally posted by camaro68ss

Originally posted by oblvion

Originally posted by vtcajun
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what hole have you been living in? I had more sleepless night, less time with my family and a lifetime of savings tied up from hard work sacrificing wages so I could pay my employees. Anyone with a sense of pride and a desire to improve will not stay in a minimum wage job. I had several good employees I hated losing move on to something better. I still stay in touch with some of them and they have thanked me for the opportunity to earn while they made improvements on their own. As a boss, I only owe my workers what I have promised them when they accepted the job. When no one wants to work for a wage, the free market will drive up wages. An example of that is that in the mid-late 90's in the Dallas/Ft Worth area, fast food joints had to pay starting wages of around $10/hr. That would be the equivalent of $15/hr in todays wages when you account for buying power of the wage. This was because there were many more better paying jobs and workers would not work for less.

Never the less, stop whining about what you expect and go work your way up somewhere from the bottom. You will have much more appreciation for any job you get. Remember, no one owes you anything. You want something out of life, you need to work for it and find something you are good at and be the best at it. Being a professional expecter will keep you a miserable whiner.




If a man is making a company $100 an hour, the man deserves at least $25 of that.

Saying anything short of that is idiocy, as the company is already making 3 times more than the man, who is actually doing the work that is making the money.


the man doesn’t deserve anything. He made that $100 off the capital and resources of the owner of the business. If the man wants the whole pie, he needs to leave and start his own company. The man entered a contract to provide his labor to create goods via the resources provided by the owner for a wage. If he doesn’t like the wage, leave.
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Yes because of this "use" of "logic" there are plenty of higher paying jobs out there, right?

Oh wait....there arent. So your entire point is mute, and irrational.

Hey I know, tell the Somalis to get a good job to solve their hunger problems, the market is litterally about the same......

Did you even think about that before you spewed it?




posted on Aug, 30 2013 @ 12:02 PM
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so, there ARE enough jobs to go around.. HECK, I am sure all those unable to find ONE would LOVE to hear how easy it is!

When, what year was this dish washing job?


SO typical... ill wager you are in the over 45 crowd.?



posted on Aug, 30 2013 @ 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by oblvion

Originally posted by camaro68ss

Originally posted by oblvion

Originally posted by vtcajun
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what hole have you been living in? I had more sleepless night, less time with my family and a lifetime of savings tied up from hard work sacrificing wages so I could pay my employees. Anyone with a sense of pride and a desire to improve will not stay in a minimum wage job. I had several good employees I hated losing move on to something better. I still stay in touch with some of them and they have thanked me for the opportunity to earn while they made improvements on their own. As a boss, I only owe my workers what I have promised them when they accepted the job. When no one wants to work for a wage, the free market will drive up wages. An example of that is that in the mid-late 90's in the Dallas/Ft Worth area, fast food joints had to pay starting wages of around $10/hr. That would be the equivalent of $15/hr in todays wages when you account for buying power of the wage. This was because there were many more better paying jobs and workers would not work for less.

Never the less, stop whining about what you expect and go work your way up somewhere from the bottom. You will have much more appreciation for any job you get. Remember, no one owes you anything. You want something out of life, you need to work for it and find something you are good at and be the best at it. Being a professional expecter will keep you a miserable whiner.




If a man is making a company $100 an hour, the man deserves at least $25 of that.

Saying anything short of that is idiocy, as the company is already making 3 times more than the man, who is actually doing the work that is making the money.


the man doesn’t deserve anything. He made that $100 off the capital and resources of the owner of the business. If the man wants the whole pie, he needs to leave and start his own company. The man entered a contract to provide his labor to create goods via the resources provided by the owner for a wage. If he doesn’t like the wage, leave.
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Yes because of this "use" of "logic" there are plenty of higher paying jobs out there, right?

Oh wait....there arent. So your entire point is mute, and irrational.

Hey I know, tell the Somalis to get a good job to solve their hunger problems, the market is litterally about the same......

Did you even think about that before you spewed it?


I dont know where your look but i see 1,000's of post for jobs on the internet. I worked for a company a year ago that went under, i found a "high" paying job in 3 weeks. I had skills and training the employer wanted


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posted on Aug, 30 2013 @ 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by HanzHenry

SO typical... ill wager you are in the over 45 crowd.?

Pretty clever of you to figure that out.

Originally posted by beezzer
5 Years ago I was busting my ass. 10 years ago I was busting my ass. 15 years ago I was busting my ass. 20 years ago I was busting my ass. 25 years ago I was busting my ass.



posted on Aug, 30 2013 @ 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by filledcup
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ur a small business, so like i said u kinda fall into the bracket of those with a legitimate excuse. as u pointed out, the math is clear.

but what is 10% of your company revenue is 2.5% in other larger companies. and yet still in other companies, that 10% equates to millions if not billions of dollars over the years in clear profits. at what point do those companies stop and say.. "ok we have enough, we can give more back now, i have 6 mercs, 4 mansions in different parts of the world and a pool in every single one of them except the one overlooking the sea."

the problem is not the small businesses that manage to eek out a comfortable living. but the super large financial horders. they have too much and it stifles the economy. the money isnt returned to the lowest echelons of their workforce fast enough to stimulate growth in GDP. a holistic view.

and by your view also there is a problem with the current system. im not even going after the interest the bank charges and the inflation at this point. but because of the rigid standpoint taken by a traditional view, the government had to intervene for the sake of fairness. and TRY to compensate for their failures. this is why welfare systems were introduced. that problem is that because of the minimum wage mandate, companies that startup and struggle to meet the minimum wage have to maintain that minimum wage even when their profit margins start sliding away due to various factors including a disgruntled workforce providing terrible service to its customers.

to be fair to the companies, if workers are to benefit from higher profit margins, then they should also lose from lower profit margins. so in a sense it is safer for the business owner to make his employees share holders. that way their own productivity defines how far they advance. but at least they know that when they do work hard they will receive return on investment (time, energy, time away from family, working with ill health to pay bills). everyone makes sacrifices to get to work. but ppl will always click at some point and realize that their workload is increasing as management attempts to drag out more productivity, but their pay rate stays the same even though they are inputting more. and that's when the problems start. especially when food prices are steadily going up

a hungry man is an angry man.

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Exaxctly!!!

Workers pay, should be tied directly to corporate profits, then the employee gains the windfalls, and shares the loses.

Instead at present, the employee shares the losses, but never, ever, not any any single time, gets any of the gains.

This model is a parasite, it should be a symbiote.

Profits and losses should be shared.

Instead, profits are absorbed by the top, losses are shared with the whole, making a net loss for the worker.

The workers are the one actually making the money, they should share the gains for their success, and the losses for their failure

This seems to much to ask obviously, as most seem to think the company should get ALL gains, and only share the losses with the workers.

Which is why our economy is in the trash right now, and getting worse by the day.

It is casino rules, company wins it keeps it all, company loses, everyone loses.

This is stupid, illogical, and makes no sense with any form of logic at all.



posted on Aug, 30 2013 @ 12:13 PM
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There are jobs to be found. Problem is, most people think they are worth more than they are. Won't take a hit to prove themselves but sometimes you have too. There are a billion people in China and other countries who make in a month what minimum wage is in an hour. Many of those people are doing manufacturing and skilled jobs that are more involved than touch screen cash registers and dropping fries.

There used to be a path in America. A dream. It is no longer there. You could get a hs diploma and and get a job to support your family. You went to college to go into management or start your own business. Now, I have friends with Masters degrees in many different fields working as bartenders, baristas and retail. It is a competitive market for skilled workers and now there is a need for engineers. Instead, the US has to outsource and then those people take those ideas back to where they live. It is a bad cycle.

Also, as some have noted, there are bonuses that are associated with profits. I worked for a software company a few years back and based on not our performance, but the companies, you got a kick back in the form of a bonus. I was in a skilled position and if profits were not up, we got nothing.

This article is from last year. Fast Food profits are not up. People do not have the living wage to eat that garbage anymore and it has gotten more expensive. A few weeks back I took my kids there and it was 23 bucks...for McDonalds????

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posted on Aug, 30 2013 @ 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by Phage

Originally posted by HanzHenry

SO typical... ill wager you are in the over 45 crowd.?

Pretty clever of you to figure that out.

Originally posted by beezzer
5 Years ago I was busting my ass. 10 years ago I was busting my ass. 15 years ago I was busting my ass. 20 years ago I was busting my ass. 25 years ago I was busting my ass.


LOL.. well, I WAS busting mine 25 yrs ago.. at 13 years old.. detasseling corn for $12/hr hard work.. coulda done that for EVER working HARDER than ANYONE behind a computer and NEVER would have made SQUAT!

so tired of the older, historically slowest to adapt and ID environmental changes, and their tired lame rhetoric.

This paradigm of the boomer crowd is being SMASHED.. the baby boomers were the ones who GREW UP being straight UP brainwashed! its sometimes comical and mostly PATHETIC..

they can't even recognize THEY WERE SCAMMED... and the younger REFUSE to be scammed so the older can ride off into the sunset after BANKRUPTING the nation.. ON OUR BACKS through their retirement!

I say, all younger will enjoy watching them get abused in the convalescent homes while they enjoy the world they believe in.. free market.. that whole "entry level job" will take on new meaning when those 'entry level' are working for nothing, changing the bed pan of an over indulged, spoiled ME generation (me generation = baby boomers)
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posted on Aug, 30 2013 @ 12:16 PM
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This paradigm of the boomer crowd is being SMASHED.. the baby boomers were the ones who GREW UP being straight UP brainwashed! its sometimes comical and mostly PATHETIC..

You have no idea how funny that is.
I'm a boomer. We said exactly the same thing.
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posted on Aug, 30 2013 @ 12:19 PM
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Having looked at this the following can be stated:

This is kind of amusing when you think about it. These workers are going to do what the government and all of the other movements that hate fast food has yet to do, and that is close down McDonalds and other fast food places.

Most fast food places have come under fire for being unhealthy, people having no restraint and eating, getting fat and ultimately complaining that such made them unhealthy, made them fat, made their children fat. Then they took the fast food places to court and yet these places remain in business.

Now the employees are complaining that their pay is too low, and have decided to go on strike. Yet they fail to see several things. All fast food is all franchises. The owners of these establishments pay a fee to use the name and products, in exchange for a good name that has product recognition. The running and the management is done by the owner, not the coorperate offices. So there is the problem in a nutshell.

McDonalds coorporate offices will not tell the franchise stores what to pay the employees, that is ultimately up to the owners. And the owners are under no obligation to pay more than what the laws require. In short this could mean that all of those people striking ending up having to look for another job, if they continue to do this, as the owners and management could very well hire in a new staff. Unless no one is willing to work for such, then ultimately it shuts them down, doing what no lawsuit has been able to do, and people having to go through and actually cook for themselves.



posted on Aug, 30 2013 @ 12:25 PM
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I've read this thread from the beginning up until about page 20. There has been a lot of back and forth with good points made on both sides. I've seen statements torn apart and reduced to personal attacks, Someone makes a long post with several points being stated throughout and the one thing that the 'other side' disagrees with is singled out and beaten to death. Is it possible to look at the things that are agreed upon?

Burger flipping is an unskilled position. Come on people, it just is but, can we agree that people should be treated with respect? Respect does not equal a pay raise but, most people prefer to be treated with respect and not be looked down on just because they are working in an unskilled job.

Some people just don't want to work or improve themselves. BUT some people do and are just in a difficult position. Let's face a simple truth here. This situation is far more complicated. Raising minimum wage will not automatically solve the problem. Skilled jobs that people should be striving for are quickly disappearing from this country. Those skilled jobs are what would allow people to move up in our society. People should be willing to take entry level positions and work their way up the ladder. If there are not any jobs above entry level, it's kinda hard to move up.

Small businesses that would allow people to get work experience are just disappearing. We have large corporations that pay CEO's outrageous amounts of money and receive tax breaks while they cut full time positions and make more part time. It might be easier for the workers to accept if the CEO's were at least not giving themselves bonuses while cutting the workers hours all while making record profits. There needs to be some give and take on both sides. The corporations need to stop crying poor and cutting people's hours AND giving themselves bonuses at the same time. If a company is suffering, the CEO's etc. should not be getting bonuses.

Small businesses are just being ground into the dirt. Regulations from the top and demands from the workers. There is no one simple fix for this situation. Telling us that minimum wage increases will fix the problem isn't going to work anymore than telling people to 'man up and get a skill'. People on both sides of the issue need to look at the problem honestly and see that SOME of the things their 'opponents' are saying are true and need to be addressed.



posted on Aug, 30 2013 @ 12:34 PM
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Then establish your own corporation and then share your profits with all the employees. Become the change you are whimpering about.

You will soon realize that human nature takes over, and you will become the beast your bemoan today.

For a peek into the human condition, and what happens to people who gain even the slightest advantage:

nymag.com...


In a windowless room on the University of California, Berkeley, campus, two undergrads are playing a Monopoly game that one of them has no chance of winning. A team of psychologists has rigged it so that skill, brains, savvy, and luck—those ingredients that ineffably combine to create success in games as in life—have been made immaterial. Here, the only thing that matters is money.

One of the players, a brown-haired guy in a striped T-shirt, has been made “rich.” He got $2,000 from the Monopoly bank at the start of the game and receives $200 each time he passes Go. The second player, a chubby young man in glasses, is comparatively impoverished. He was given $1,000 at the start and collects $100 for passing Go. T-Shirt can roll two dice, but Glasses can only roll one, limiting how fast he can advance. The students play for fifteen minutes under the watchful eye of two video cameras, while down the hall in another windowless room, the researchers huddle around a computer screen, later recording in a giant spreadsheet the subjects’ every facial twitch and hand gesture.

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T-Shirt isn’t just winning; he’s crushing Glasses. Initially, he reacted to the inequality between him and his opponent with a series of smirks, an acknowledgment, perhaps, of the inherent awkwardness of the situation. “Hey,” his expression seemed to say, “this is weird and unfair, but whatever.” Soon, though, as he whizzes around the board, purchasing properties and collecting rent, whatever discomfort he feels seems to dissipate. He’s a skinny kid, but he balloons in size, spreading his limbs toward the far ends of the table. He smacks his playing piece (in the experiment, the wealthy player gets the Rolls-Royce) as he makes the circuit—smack, smack, smack—­ending his turns with a board-shuddering bang! Four minutes in, he picks up Glasses’s piece, the little elf shoe, and moves it for him. As the game nears its finish, T-Shirt moves his Rolls faster. The taunting is over now: He’s all efficiency. He refuses to meet Glasses’s gaze. His expression is stone cold as he takes the loser’s cash.


Absolutely worth reading. It was a point of discussion among our business about a month ago.



posted on Aug, 30 2013 @ 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
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This paradigm of the boomer crowd is being SMASHED.. the baby boomers were the ones who GREW UP being straight UP brainwashed! its sometimes comical and mostly PATHETIC..

You have no idea how funny that is.
I'm a boomer. We said exactly the same thing.
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I'm a GenXer. And feel that the brainwashing has gotten worse and worse. For Christ's sake, they watch Lizard Lick Towing nowadays!!!



posted on Aug, 30 2013 @ 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
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This paradigm of the boomer crowd is being SMASHED.. the baby boomers were the ones who GREW UP being straight UP brainwashed! its sometimes comical and mostly PATHETIC..

You have no idea how funny that is.
I'm a boomer. We said exactly the same thing.
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yes, the scam has come full circle.. the young are just at the generational timeframe of "OH, HECK NO!".. in laymans terms it happened so quick.

Now.. work now/no pay now or later.. don't make me laugh
Boomers.. work now/part pay now and part pay later.. common guy can make it supporting a family
'Great' Generation.. work now/pay now and pay later.. a common guy can make it supporting a family


the boomers were ahead in line at the musical chairs game. In a twisted way, the worse others are doing, the better YOU are doing comparatively.. supply/demand... you get better 'deals' on things because others are forced to sell and destitute, so less bidding competition on the nice stuff.

No matter how corrupt the game gets. those that have or 'next in line' to get a nice piece of it will fight viciously for it. Because THEY are motivated by selfishness and/or greed.

what can I get, what about ME, what about MY family, I am worried about ME..etc

instead of what about US, what about OUR families, I am worried about US,..

the words "rule by COVET means"... ever heard those before?



posted on Aug, 30 2013 @ 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by oblvion


Please inform me how it is, that these people not even doing anything at all to produce, deserve hundreds and or thousands of times more than those actually "making" the money for the company.



Winston Churchill once said that American democracy is the worst form of government, until compared to all other forms of government.

Is it a perfect system? No. You'd have to watch Star trek and hope for the future. The system we have now though, works. Unfortunately there will be winners and losers in this system. There will be top-end people and low-end people. The only good thing about our system is that the oppourtunity is there for anyone to make it to the top end.

I'm near the top of my profession. Right now I sit in a climate-controlled office and goof off on the computer because work is tapering off for the holliday. 5 Years ago I was busting my ass. 10 years ago I was busting my ass. 15 years ago I was busting my ass. 20 years ago I was busting my ass. 25 years ago I was busting my ass.

Years ago I took a part-time job because times were hard for me and my family. I washed dishes at a bar/restarant after my "day job". I walked in, with my head held high, because I was going to be the best damned dish washer anyone had ever seen.

And I was.

Looking at CEO's and corporations for blame won't get you to succeed. When I wanted to double my money, I just worked twice as long.

We can argue all day about the greed of corporations, they will say it is "their fair share and that they earned it."

Those at the lower rungs also say the same thing.


And yet in all that you didnt even address my primary point, why do those that dont even produce for a company at all become "entitled" to reap all the rewards?

There is no answer from your perspective, as it is obvious they do not deserve to, much as your claiming the workers dont "deserve" to make a simple low budget "livable" wage.

The hard truth is, these workers do deserve an "livable" wage, the fact they are producing incredible gains for thier company is proof positive of this.

They are producing it through they labors, there is no escaping this simple fact, it is right in your face, and obviously unavoidable.

I am not asking you to through down your entire belief system, I simply asking you to acknowledge the fact that these " entry level" "low skilled" " brainless" workers are in fact producing hundreds of millions ( in mcdonalds case) and( hundreds of billions in Walmart's case) in profits.

Thue is should seem obvious they deserve to "share" in the profits.

Honestly, Walmart's business model is the key here, the "workers" didnt invent it, they dont deserve ALL the credit, but they are making it happen, they ARE producing hundreds of billions in profits through their labors, they do deserve to share in the windfalls of that labor.

And by windfalls I mean alot more than "cobra" ( known to be one of the worst insurance companies in entire country) and more than the minimum wage they are doling out to their "slave" laborers.

All I am asking is a simple acknowledgement of the facts, many are making more than the lower income workers, while doing nothing to produce, while those getting the least are producing in record margins, extraordinary profits, that those producing it never see a single cent of.



posted on Aug, 30 2013 @ 12:49 PM
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You know this is all very sad to watch happening. Let's be honest about our history at least here in the U.S.. Those who grew up in the 50's had a particular system offered to them. They did what was asked, they paid their dues, jobs were plentiful, and they reaped the rewards offered IN that system.

Next came the system of still pensions but bringing in 401k's and the people did their part in that system and jobs were plentiful, and life still offered lots of opportunities because government had not taken over every aspect of business.

Then came the no more pensions except for mostly federal employees, employer contributing to 401k's and you doing your part, but no more job security. This is a lot to do with the problems now I think. There was a time you picked a field, worked up in it, paid your dues and retired after 20 - 30 years of service to the company. That changed to doing 18 years, company firing you for some BS reason, and you lose your pension, but if you were smart at least you had the 401k.

Now, there are service jobs available or very high professional jobs which you will pay out the nose for, and maybe get a job, laid off at the age of 45 to 55 and can't find a job, and couldn't afford the 401k program and now Congress is talking about taking much of your 401ks away!

The people entering the workforce today see there is little future benefit to killing yourself, being taxed to death while others sit around milking the system. How in the hell do federal employees in massive numbers make six figure plus incomes? The goal is to make everyone dependent on the government, play the class warfare game and when it all crashes the vast majority will beg for rescue by the government which is funded BY the people! In order to get that help, they will do as they are told.



posted on Aug, 30 2013 @ 12:57 PM
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If you're tired of the system watch this. It will offer you an alternative, but it makes no bones about how hard it is. This is what developing a successful business or chasing your dream really looks like.






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posted on Aug, 30 2013 @ 01:02 PM
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Which is the exact reason I said wages should be set according to a companies profits, not an across the board raise on everyone, this is a hammer where a needle is needed method.

Walmart can and should pay more, they are making hundreds of billions a year, the tax payers should not be feeding their workers, they should be feeding their workers.

All businesses cant afford to pay more, many can, by making a bracketed profit based wage system, where those that make the most, and pay the least were required to pay a honest wage, this entire problem would work itself out quite quickly.

Nobody seems to like this idea though, even though it is the only way I see of correcting these problems.

Hell nobody would even have to pass or enforce this law, its mere suggestion would be sufficient to cause a quick climb in wages.

It already happened back around the depression era, companies took it upon themselves to correct the problem of wage disparity, because they didnt want to lawmakers to do it for them.



You never did respond to this statement, I understand your "high profile" and I assume quite busy, as lets be honest, your quite well read and informed.

What do you think Phage, is a system based off of pay coupled with business profits better than "MW" or is it worse.

I really want to know your thoughts, as over the last couple of years I have read ALOT of your posts, and yours is the cruel cold logic of common ( not so common) sense I appreciate in this world. NO nonsense, screw feelings, lets get down to "brass tax" kind of logic that I understand.

Would a system of pay based off of profits, thus spurring the employee to work harder as the better the company does that better he/she does, thus the more they make have any honest effect, vs. the system in place now across the board?

I honestly cant wait to see what you think, as I am very smart, but I also recognize cold calculating logic above my own when I see it.



posted on Aug, 30 2013 @ 01:03 PM
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You are making blanket statements. I have had many total slackers work for me that didn't deserve a livable wage. So i fired them.

Not all employees produce. And no one would produce at all without the guidance of someone who knows how to run a business. You know, that guy you think produces nothing: the owner.



posted on Aug, 30 2013 @ 01:13 PM
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Along the lines from what the big ape said, it has to come down to an individual basis.

Blanket statements about workers producing and the proletariate consuming are all better left aside.

In the real world the individual gets judged based on what he does (or doesn't do)

As for not addrewssing what the CEO's do or don't do?

Who cares!

Waaaay above me in the food chain. What they do with their money is their business.

Ain't none of mine!



posted on Aug, 30 2013 @ 01:28 PM
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Would a system of pay based off of profits, thus spurring the employee to work harder as the better the company does that better he/she does, thus the more they make have any honest effect, vs. the system in place now across the board?

You don't seem to understand how it works. Pay is based on profits. It is integral to figuring out how much to sell each burger for. Pay for burger flippers (and its associated burden; insurance, payroll taxes) is a direct cost and therefore is directly related to profit.

McDonald's makes a lot of money, yes, because they sell a lot of burgers. Franchise owners can do pretty well to, if they sell a lot of burgers. But none of them make a lot on each burger they sell, the profit margin is not high. Now, how many burgers does each worker handle an hour? How much actual profit is made on each of those burgers? How much more of that profit do you want each of those workers to have?

How about this? Instead of being paid hourly, how about getting something for each burger on their shift? Wait...problem...some shifts are going to do a lot better than others. Is that fair?

There is talk about the "non-producers", as if the burger flippers are the only ones who really count. You mean like the guys in the construction department who get new restaurants built? You mean like the real estate department who gets the land on which to build those restaurants? How about the bookkeepers who count all those burgers? Of course, they are all "non-producers", right? Oh wait...if it wasn't for them there wouldn't be any burgers to flip, would there?

What about the capital that goes into buying that land and building those restaurants? Just put it up for nothing? No return on the investment? Not gonna be many restaurants around if that's what you want to see.


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