posted on Aug, 30 2013 @ 02:26 AM
Originally posted by intrptr
No need for one wrist to slap the other. Thats why the Hauge exists. To give a fair hearing outside the reach of any "Jurist-My-Diction".
International Court of Justice
My understanding of the world court is that individuals cannot stand trial in it. Only nations, furthermore adherence to a ruling is purely
voluntary... it's a non binding decision. Essentially, trying Bush, Cheney, and the rest falls outside of their mission. They can try the US itself
and say if an action was legal or illegal, but they can't try the specific individuals that made those decisions. Which brings us back to the
problem... for previously mentioned reasons we cannot try the Bush administration... the fallout would be much worse than any potential benefit.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by Swills
Wait what? Bush and friends being held accountable for the false war in Iraq but then Holder and friends block it? What the deuce?
It's very simple. Holder and the Obama administration will let the previous administration off the hook for just about anything ... BECAUSE ... they
want the same treatment from the administration that will follow them. Holder and the Obama administration will expect that the Christie
administration let them off the hook for crimes the Obama administration has perp'd. And then Christie will expect the same from whoever follows him.
It's the same old back room political deals that have gone on for centuries.
Hows that hope and change coming? Same ol' same ol' ...
I wouldn't even say this is an example of corruption. It's a simple principal that our entire system of government is based on. The idea is that we
elect new people to these offices and move forward. If we focus on electing new people, simply to prosecute those of the past all government simply
turns into a race to punish those who fall in with the opposition party. If you think politics are ugly now, imagine a world where Clinton sought to
jail Reagan and Bush Sr. In response Bush Jr jailed Clinton, Gore, and the entire cabinet. In response to that Obama jailed Bush, Cheney, the
cabinet, and the governors who supported Bush and empowered him in the first place. In the span of a couple administrations, this action would
outright lead to massive violence against people of the opposite political party.
Setting this precedent would be one of the worst possible domestic actions an administration could take.
Originally posted by Flatfish
reply to post by Swills
Sounds to me like this lady needs to file her case in a court where the U.S. Dept. of Justice has no jurisdiction.
The world court is purely for state vs state matters. She has no standing to present her case there. A best case scenario is the government of Iraq
sues the US in the world court based on her story. If the US is found guilty, punitive action/reparations can take place, but as is typical of non
binding resolutions... there's no authority to punish the US here and things would quickly devolve into politics. How many countries do you think
would put trade with the US at risk over making the US enforce a self inflicted punishment? Furthermore, should the state even be guilty? It was a
previous administration that committed any crimes in the first place.
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