New research: The history of Timekeeping

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posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 12:55 PM
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8347 b.c.
    According to Maya the first creation
    numbers are invented



3147 b.c.
    According to the Maya: Tzolkin 4-hau Haab 8-Cumku
    "Was seen the image of the turtle"
    Letters are invented



3140 b.c.
    According to the Maya: 13th Baktun completed
    "Era of Gods" closed
    world destroyed by man eating jaguars
    Begin Second Creation



2697 b.c.
    Huang Ti: 12 animals years concurant with 5 element years = 60 year cycle
    Noah: counting the years, the months, and the days



2350 b.c.
    Marduk: fixes first Calendar
      12 months starting on the crescent moon
      one intercalary month by decree

    Tangdi Yao: fixes first Calendar
      15 days a bean grows, 15 days a bean decays = 30 day month

    Akkadian Pentecontad: fixes first Calendar
      7x7 +1 = 50 days
      x15 = 350 days
      +15 or 16 = 365 or 366 days


2349 b.c.
    According to Maya: World destoyed by The Great Flood
    "Dates are invented"
    Begin Third Creation

2346 b.c.
    According to Hebrew: The Flood



2276 b.c.
    Possible first Greek Games
    Minoan: Year of 62 weeks of 1/5th of a month
      1/5th of a month starting on first quarter moon
      5.9 days x 62 = 365.8 days a year



1866 b.c.
    Sesotris III of 12th Dynasty: Sothic cycles
    1,460 year cycle based on the star Sirius
    every 1,461 years of 365 days, only 1,460 real years have passed



1712 b.c.
    Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed: rain of fire and brimstone
    Maya: Destruction of world by rain of fire
    Dead Sea: Massive bitumen explosion


1702 b.c.
    Old Babylonian Venus tablets begin
      Govenors Year: royal year, rising stars
      Seasonal Year: 5 day week
      Financial Calendar: Lunar year of 12 months +1 sometimes
      Festable Calendar: Lunar year of 12 months +1 sometimes


1492 b.c.
    According to Maya: Haab
    20 days x 18 months = 360 days
    +5 evil days each year = 365
    Long count: Katun = 20 years, Baktun = 400 Years
    calendar is backdated to 3114 b.c.



1445-1000 b.c.
    Lunisolar calendar
    leap months
    7 year Jubilee
    Gezer Calendar



754 b.c.
    Foundation of City of Rome
    15 year indiction: Roman tax cycle



539 b.c.
    Persian Empire
    1 yz (yazdegirdi) = 12 months of 30 days
    first quarter moon called "Her" and all-healing



432 b.c.
    Meton of Athens: Metonic Cycle
    19 solar years = 235 solar months



389 b.c. March 3rd
    Birth of Zoroaster
    2 weeks of 7 days followed by 2 weeks of 8 days = 30 day month



46 b.c.
    Julian Calendar introduced
    backdated to the founding of rome
    709 AUC

38 b.c. January 1st
    Year one of the Spanish era of Pax Romana
    Coligny Calendar grid: public peg calendar
    62 months over 5 years

32 b.c. August 31
    Jesus crucifiction eclipse
    9am local Jerusalem time
    sunrise local Olmec time

    Maya: world destroyed by wind
    men turned into monkeys clinging to trees to survive
    Odin hangs from the tree of life for 9 days to learn runes
    Begin fourth Creation



277 a.d. Bishop Anatolius of Laodicea: 19 year easter tables
312 a.d. Ascension of Emperor Constantine
325 a.d. First Council of Nicaea: calls for standardized calendar
390 a.d. Theophilus of Alexandria: 95 year easter tables


427 a.d.
    Brahaspaticakra:
    60 earth years = 5 Jupiter years
    backdated to 3102 b.c. February 2nd



525 a.d
    Dionysius Exiguus: established Christian era dating system
    backdated to the incarnation of Jesus
    and based on the 95 year easter tables
    published 525 anno domini



622 a.d. September 20th
    Era of the Hiraj



763 a.d. June 29
    Copan Eclipse
    9 . 16 . 12 . 5 . 17
    6-Caban 10-Mol



1179 a.d.
    Era of the Incarnation: liberation calendar after being invaded by Arabs
    1180 in Catalonia
    1350 in Aragon
    1383 in Castile
    1422 in Portugal



1500 a.d.
    1507 Last recorded Aztec date
    1521 Cortez siezed Aztec capitol
    1582 Gregorian calendar introduced, includes leap years



1949 a.d. December: The first radiocarbon estimates are published
    Dating system of BP, with 1950 as year 1.
    B)efore P)resent, or B)efore P)hysics
    representing the period before the testing of nuclear weapons
    which altered the global ratio of carbon-14 to carbon-12



1995 a.d.
    TdateTime: double precision floating point variable
    with the date as the integral part,
    and time as fractional part.
    Backdated to 30 Dec 1899



In the modern TDateTime system
this day Wednesday, August 28 2013
is 41,514


Mike
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posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 01:01 PM
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So what does it all mean,
where is the trend going?




Two things.

We are in the era of a new calendar system,
though most people are unaware of it,
with the Star Trek nerds and their
use of Star-date being the
closest.


And Every time a new calendar system
is developed some form of catastrophy
and/or social upheaval follows. Does
this fit with the readers awareness
of world events since 1995?


Date of post
D: 41514.539947106
Days: 41514
Math: 113 years and 240 days
Gregorian Year: 2013/8/28
Time: 0.539394710649503
decoded time: 12:56 and 43.703 seconds




As a last comment
I hope my history of calendars
doesn't offend anyone or any particular
cultures sense of self identity.



Mike



posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 01:05 PM
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i fail to see any research? just a bunch of statements?



posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 01:05 PM
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The modern era of timekeeping
is based on the radioactive decay of Cesium
in Atomic clocks.

No longer are the seasonal years,
the period of the Moon,
or even the movement of the stars
used to determine Time.

Since the move to Atomic Clocks,
GPS location has been possible.


Mike
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posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by rayuki
i fail to see any research [color=gold] ? just a bunch of statements [color=gold] ?


I don't understand the two question marks
in the quote above.

I fail to see any questions,
just two statements.


Mike
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posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by mikegrouchy
8347 b.c.
    According to Maya the first creation
    numbers are invented



First off S & F

Second, The "Maya" may have borrowed their math and how they counted from a much older "Culture and or Civlization" known as the Olmec.

Here is the back of a well known Olmec Stela . If you'll notice they use the same counting and dating method. The Maya in my opinion inherited it from the Olmec.




If the Maya borrowed that from the Olmec then whose to say they didnt also inherit their Myths and Legends as well?



posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 01:25 PM
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My research has show the exact same thing Slayer69,

The Olmec are fascinating and elusive.
Some posit that Teotihuacan was
built by the Olmec. If so that
pyramid has the most
incredible feature.





There is the one strange layer
that is at the exact angle required
so that one day out of the year
during the Summer Solstice
when the Sun is furthest north in the sky
that the Sun passes directly over the pyramid.

And for about 666 seconds all four sides
of the strange layer are illuminated by the sun.

From what I have read,
one could see the shadow on the north side
retreat and then return.

This, of course, requires that the pyramid
be located exactly on the Tropic of Cancer.

It used to be the most accurate
summer solstice detecting monument in the world.

I'm not so sure how well it is working now,
since it's restoration.


Mike
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posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 01:45 PM
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I'm actually surprised
that no one has challenged the
specific dating of the invention of numbers.

I guess there are not too many Historians posting here.

I did find this interesting quote
from ancient Egyptian myth during my research.



Before all things was Time, then Desire (Motive), then Darkness



Mike



posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 01:50 PM
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u forgot one,,

BP

Before Present

Before Present (BP) years is a time scale used mainly in geology, and other scientific disciplines to specify when events in the past occurred. Because the "present" time changes, standard practice is to use 1 January 1950 as the origin of the age scale, reflecting the fact that radiocarbon dating became practicable in the 1950s. The abbreviation "BP", with the same meaning, has also been interpreted as "Before Physics"; that is, before nuclear weapons testing artificially altered the proportion of the carbon isotopes in the atmosphere.

fastideousannating as always


en.wikipedia.org...
edit on 28-8-2013 by BobAthome because: mis-spelled a new word




posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 01:53 PM
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Originally posted by BobAthome
reply to post by mikegrouchy
 


u forgot one,,

BP

Before Present

Before Present (BP) years is a time scale used mainly in geology, and other scientific disciplines to specify when events in the past occurred. Because the "present" time changes, standard practice is to use 1 January 1950 as the origin of the age scale, reflecting the fact that radiocarbon dating became practicable in the 1950s. The abbreviation "BP", with the same meaning, has also been interpreted as "Before Physics"; that is, before nuclear weapons testing artificially altered the proportion of the carbon isotopes in the atmosphere.

fastideousanating as always


en.wikipedia.org...


I didn't forget!

I didn't know.

Thanks for that.

Just to restate it in my own words,
so I can be corrected if I got it wrong...

BP is used in geological time scales?


Mike



posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 01:59 PM
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1 January 1950,, onwards,, would now be designated,, 1951 b.p,,
instead of 1951 a.d
so that a better accuracy on scientific fact,, can have a starting point,,1 January 1950. too the present.
hope that kind of makes sense.?



posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 02:04 PM
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Originally posted by BobAthome
reply to post by mikegrouchy
 


1 January 1950,, onwards,, would now be designated,, 1951 b.p,,
instead of 1951 a.d
so that a better accuracy on scientific fact,, can have a starting point,,1 January 1950. too the present.
hope that kind of makes sense.?



Well...



This usage differs with the recommendation by van der Plicht & Hogg, followed by the Quaternary Science Reviews, both of which requested that publications should use the unit "a" [for year] and [color=gold] reserve the term "BP" for radiocarbon estimations.



For radiocarbon estimations,
yes.

Either way,
I'm going to edit the original post
to reflect this information.


Mike
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posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 02:12 PM
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i thought it applied outside of geological,,as well. I sit corrected, thnk -u



posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 02:53 PM
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You have missed out Greenwich Mean Time ( The Greenwich Meridian)

www.thegreenwichmeridian.org...
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posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by alldaylong
You have missed out Greenwich Mean Time ( The Greenwich Meridian)

www.thegreenwichmeridian.org...
edit on 28-8-2013 by alldaylong because: (no reason given)


Well,

I considered including it in the list,
but the longitudinal line that marks zero hour
didn't start in Greenwich.

Additionally it didn't come with a new calendar system.

But your are correct in pointing out the oversight.

While it was intentional,
my reasoning may not be sound.


Mike



posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 04:15 PM
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Love the topic and thought-provoking insights.
Don't have much to add (at the moment)...but, should I - your thread is now "marked".
Thanks!!!



posted on Aug, 29 2013 @ 12:52 AM
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Forgetting the original keepers of time are we??..yes.. that's right women with their monthlies,who also in my view discovered simple agriculture,after all when we failed to bring back that meat on hooves we still gotta eat..


World's first calender?? created by women??..The Ishango Bone, 20,000yrs BC


Alexander Marshack examined the Ishango bone microscopically, and concluded that it may represent a six-month lunar calendar; but see Judy Robinson who argues that Marshack over-interprets the data and that the evidence does not support lunar calendars. Claudia Zaslavsky has suggested that this may indicate that the creator of the tool was a woman, tracking the lunar phase in relation to the menstrual cycle.
en.wikipedia.org...
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posted on Aug, 29 2013 @ 01:43 AM
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The history of time keeping started in a time in which time got lost, and found again, and lost again. What you call 2013 could easily be 3013 OR 4013.

What ever dates that history 'GIVES AND STARTS' Times and DATES and calenders , is really false to life to even imagine.

be



posted on Aug, 29 2013 @ 02:09 AM
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I don't think anyone invents calenders or numbers, they are based on natural constants. I don't think trying to line up calender inception dates with disasters is a very productive use of your time.

en.wikipedia.org...

"In the Archaic System time notation was written in the U4 System U. Multiple lunisolar calendars existed; however the civil calendar from the holy city of Nippur (Ur III period) was adopted by Babylon as their civil calendar.[6] The calendar of Nippur dates to 3500 BCE and was itself based on older astronomical knowledge of an uncertain origin. The main astronomical cycles used to construct the calendar were the synodic month, equinox year, and sideral day."

1 sumerian cubit = 0.497m . A pendulum with a rod length of 2 * 0.497m = 0.994m

"A seconds pendulum is a pendulum whose period is precisely two seconds; one second for a swing in one direction and one second for the return swing, a frequency of 1/2 Hz. At standard gravity its length is 0.994 m (39.1 in). "

A pendulum of 2 sumerian cubits will swing 86400 times day - that is the same number of seconds per solar day that modern science uses today.





posted on Aug, 29 2013 @ 02:17 AM
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Originally posted by mikegrouchy
Since the move to Atomic Clocks,
GPS location has been possible.


Accurate global positioning has only been possible since modern science started using atomic clocks?

oh rly?:

Speed of light = 299,792,458 m/s

Modern science's latitude for the great pyramid of giza = 29.9792° N








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