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Social Conditioning and Miley Cyrus VMA performance. (I didn't think I'd ever care about this)

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posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 01:19 PM
reply to post by wishful1gnorance

I'm totally in agreement with you Wishful1. It's not just Miley, but many ex-child stars. We fail to realize just how much little girls grow to idolize people like Miley Cyrus, and when Miley starts with the whole sex appeal thing, kids WILL pay attention. Anyone who claims this isn't an issue are idiots plain and simple. You grow up watching a show, buying the merchandise, listen to what they have to say, you become a fan. And children don't really realize that, "Hey, what a flake this chick is! One minute she's all good girl, the next she's naughty!". No, all they see is their idol changing from one type of person to another and follow suit.

We need to not only hold higher standards for these idiots on TV, but be responsible enough to not allow our children to watch things like this. Which is difficult, because they've grown up with Miley Cyrus and her wholesome image.

posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 01:21 PM

Originally posted by benrl
Yes lets please all focus on Miley Cyrus...

Dont look at the situation to closely with Syria cause Miley shaking her @$$ on tv.

Wouldn't be surprised if some record executive got a call to distract the sheep.

^^ This ^^


posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 01:53 PM
My own kid tells me he wants a girl with class and self respect. Its how you raise your kids and maybe something like this can work the opposite way in making them realize what they don't want. If you raise your kids to respect women (the opposite sex or themselves), and model appropriate behavior this sort of thing will likely reinforce their own values.

The media can only influence kids as much as we allow it to. We didn't watch this but we've seen things close to it in public. If parents want to save their kids from this crap good luck. Better to talk to them about it to see how it makes them feel and go from there.

posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 02:00 PM
reply to post by wishful1gnorance

Miley Cyrus is a pig. Decent women don't act like that in public. What we can do is ostracize and not patronize such pigs. Women like that were shunned by decent people in the old days. There was a damn good reason for it.

posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 02:09 PM
I'm still trying to figure out exactly what is "artistic" about Miley Cyrus dry-humping & mock-masterbating on live TV. That is not to say other shows on the brain-fryer get a pass for their simulated sex scenes and next-to-nothing attire, either, and it's not to say Gaga gets a free pass for her "clothes" (wth point was she trying to make, anyway??) I'm honestly asking what makes twerking, dry-humping & mock-masterbating artistic. Last time I checked, that's called pornographic, with the exception of twerking, which I find just stupid.

posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 02:47 PM
Janet Jackson boob flash Feb 2004, same time as Ricin scare.

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posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 03:17 PM
i have to say i really love the twerking when i saw the headline about miley at the vma's i had to check it out....and you know what? i wasnt even that impressed. The part i actually enjoyed the most is when she came out of the bear with her tongue hanging out....DANG thats a long tongue miley!!! lol

seriously can you care that much about dumb ppl doing dumb things to entertain other dumb people (sometimes im dumb and enjoy it, ill admit)

sign of the times, yes index into the general condition of the amerikan public...? yeah maybe...but...what havent we known about that for oh, the last 50 years?

no...Miley...try again and try HARDER....i really didnt see anything THAT novel or groundbreaking. Now when she comes out and actually starts doing porn on stage while singing some stupid diddy THEN ill really be impressed...and probably a bit saddened.....but will be really entertaining!
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posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 03:59 PM

seriously can you care that much about dumb ppl doing dumb things to entertain other dumb people (sometimes im dumb and enjoy it, ill admit)

nail on the head

posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 04:23 PM
If people allow their 11 or 12 year olds to watch filth like the Vmas then they've only got themselves to blame if their kids turn out wrong.

What about the idea of female empowerment?

Ask Helen Mirren what she thinks of Miley's twerking and she will no doubt say something like ' more power to her, i love to see my girls embracing their sexuality'

People talk about the industry and those behind the scene pulling strings but did anyone stop the think that Miley's performance was her own idea because that is what she felt like doing and that all those years under contract to Disney and having to look and act a certain way might have been a tad stifling?

She was just trying to make a statement... ' I used to play with Teddy Bears but now I play with the big boys and myself'

posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 04:29 PM
I'm just glad that people are talking about something other than Lady Caca, now that is someone I wouldn't want my kids to be influenced by

Go Miley!!

posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 04:32 PM
I think its comical when someone labels some girl a "whore" for performing a dance and song on a stage. What they really mean is "I personally don't have the guts, let alone the body, to do what this girl is doing, so I'll negativize and trivialize the whole thing so I feel better about not being anywhere near as attractive as this girl who , by the way, is getting the attention that I have always wanted, but lack the looks to get."

Yeah these girls eventually grow up a bit a realize they have a vagina and how it can be used. Let's try to not get The Vapors about it like an Amish woman in 1890.

posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 04:44 PM
When it comes to social conditioning and media, glorification of violence and stupidity is a lot bigger issue than sex can ever be.

posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 06:07 PM
I honestly do feel sorry for her dad. I mean, I know there's having fun, but she is just making a fool of herself. Industry Sex Slave Subject #83647 : Success

posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 06:18 PM
Wow, that was really well-written. I think it is the first time I've read something like this and actually been somewhat convinced of your point of view.

posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 06:38 PM

Was thinking about this. Okay, so there are two ways of knowing what is right and wrong, one of them is through being told, and the other is learning what is healthy or not through experience. Both speak to different types of people.

It is kind of an inaccurate assumption to think that people are not smart enough to know what works for them after trying for a while and making mistakes. What gets in that type of person's way is other people's inaccurate fears that what they want. Of course the other person is smart enough to know what they want, which is hopefully a positive life experience.

While I do agree that this performance was ridiculous, some people think it was cheesy, because they weren't worried about being brainwashed by it because they already knew those were bad ideas about to happen.

Ultimately, if our society decays, it is allowing it to reach rock bottom and then experience and understand. That kind of deep understanding formed by a society experiencing it together is enough to nurture peace for centuries.
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posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 06:52 PM
Wtf is twerking?

posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 07:11 PM
reply to post by AlienScience

I dunno man. I was fascinated by sex ever since I was 5-6, and I'm 30 now. Older kids told me about it, and I (being the curious kid) went to the school library and tried to find anything and everything I could on it. I didn't help that at about 7-8 I found "The Joy of Sex" under my parents bed.

Of course when I got into my early teens the hormone thing kicked off, and I was SUPER horny...but I was already *ahem* since I was like 5. I just increased the frequency of said *ahem*.

I'm amazed at how little my GF knows about male sexual response, or even her own body. Compared to her, I'm practically a gynecologist. She grew up in a "Fundamentalist Christian" home, went to private school for most of her life and was NEVER taught ANYTHING about sex by ANYONE until she went to a public high school.

She honestly thought guys could control "it" just like a finger or toe. She thought after sex I am making a conscious decision for "it" to rest for a bit.... "Can't you just make it XXXXX"

She seriously thought us guys have control over it like a prehensile tail ...
edit on 28-8-2013 by MystikMushroom because: (no reason given)

posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 07:21 PM
What's the big deal? I enjoyed the show, the entertainment, she was entertaining, it was hilarious!! Yes it was funny to me, if someone wants to get on stage and act like a fool and make millions doing it, who are we to judge. She is an adult now, let her do what she wants.. Don't let *YOUR KIDS* watch this crap if you don't like it. This was nothing that shocking and people need to get over it... END OF STORY

posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 09:16 PM
reply to post by benrl

We here at ATS can talk about whatever comes to mind so relax and move offer nothing to this post!

posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 09:22 PM
reply to post by denybedoomed

It's women shaking their ass in a multitude of positions...more often than not they appear to be intelligent young entrepreneurs, doctors and educators. This is the next unifying dance for women of all color that's got some junk in the trunk. Hooray!!!!!!!!!!! Way to go ladies

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