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Breaking: US's Proof of Attack is Intercepted Call

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posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 01:31 AM
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NSA spying and recording phone calls. And Blue Coat Systems is tied to the Syrian backbone on the internet in Syria. Blue Coats is well connected to Spy agencies. Even VENKAT RAGHAVAN who works at Blue Coats System who worked for Harris Corporation before going to Blue Coats Systems. Harris Corporation has board of directors tied to Ratheon and even a US General as a board member.

www.bluecoat.com...-raghavan

harris.com...

NSA spying on Syria by giving Syria equipment they use to attack its own citizens. And that is the excuse that will be used to remove its leader to replace him with a puppet. What a mess.




posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 01:33 AM
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Whatever you say.



posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 01:50 AM
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I hardly doubt that the Syrian government on this Level would use a system that others could listen in on.
At least not now when the US is all over their buts to try and snap up a excuse to get something on Assad.

2nd. There is no motive for Assad to use Chemical weapons that would kill hundreds of Syrian civilians.

The only side that would have such a motive are the rebles and their supportes. Who want Assad dead.



posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 02:00 AM
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Originally posted by CaticusMaximus
I dont believe it for one second. This propaganda piece is to drum up support for domestic spying programs, to "show" how useful those programs can be in "combating terrorism".

Maybe Im just getting more experienced at seeing things for what they are, but this is just so transparent, its laughable.


edit on 8/27/2013 by CaticusMaximus because: (no reason given)

Nailed it.
This is all about showing the public why they want/need this spy system



posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 06:00 AM
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Uh, oh , is not the NSA , is the


The 8200 unit of the Israeli Defence Forces, which specialises in electronic surveillance, intercepted a conversation between Syrian officials regarding the use of chemical weapons, an unnamed former Mossad official told Focus. The content of the conversation was relayed to the US, the ex-official said.
The 8200 unit collects and analyses electronic data, including wiretapped telephone calls and emails. It is the largest unit in the IDF.


www.theguardian.com...



posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 06:12 AM
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Originally posted by xavi1000
Uh, oh , is not the NSA , is the


The 8200 unit of the Israeli Defence Forces, which specialises in electronic surveillance, intercepted a conversation between Syrian officials regarding the use of chemical weapons, an unnamed former Mossad official told Focus. The content of the conversation was relayed to the US, the ex-official said.
The 8200 unit collects and analyses electronic data, including wiretapped telephone calls and emails. It is the largest unit in the IDF.


www.theguardian.com...


Yea and we all know that the Israelis always tell the truth. They would not think about false flags because they are always nice citizens of the world wide loving community.

ROFL

P



posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 06:52 AM
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Intercepted phone calls that will be presented by the Obama administration as proof that Bashar Al-Assad was behind last week’s chemical weapons attack in Syria actually suggest that the attack was not ordered by the Syrian government.

Read on...

www.infowars.com...



posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 07:15 AM
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See a snipet, a link and this amount of text



And there ya have it, as the story spins.


Leave nothing to discuss and hardly constitute a thread OP.

Thanks for providing someones story to ATS.



posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 07:42 AM
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Seems foolish for the Assad Regime to use a chem attack when they are winning the war. It's far more believable to think that the rebels used them to gain international sentiment and involve the US/NATO. The rebels could have easily gotten hold of these weapons and used them on civilians thinking the ends justify the means.

After the intel screw up that led to the Iraq war, nothing can be taken at face value anymore. NATO forces will launch a few missiles and declare a moral victory....What happens next is up to Russia, Iran and Hezbollah.



posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 07:53 AM
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Originally posted by spy66
reply to post by JBA2848
 

2nd. There is no motive for Assad to use Chemical weapons that would kill hundreds of Syrian civilians. The only side that would have such a motive are the rebles and their supportes. Who want Assad dead.


I agree that there is absolutely no conceivable up-side for Assad to use chemical weapons. None. However, the Rebels are not the only one's who'd benefit:

--- Qatar and UAE want a gas pipeline to serve the Eurozone and wheeze in on Russia's monopoly

--- Israel has been trying to get us into a war with Iran for years. An attack on Syria will almost certainly result in an attack on Israel giving them the necessary high-ground to attack Iran.

--- The West is juking around a lurking financial meltdown and we all know that the standard response to economic hard times is a war.

So, given the above, it isn't difficult to figure out who REALLY released those chemical weapons.

edit on 28-8-2013 by jtma508 because: 'cause I can't type for crap



posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 08:03 AM
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This whole affair is turning into real bad reality TV....you know, the kind where you sit there shaking your head, thinking how all "the situations" are so obviously scripted and contrived....except with this one you can't flip the channel and watch something educational instead.

I wonder how many seasons THIS one is going to run.




posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 08:24 AM
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Well, I'm glad that John Kerry calmed down and decided to make a report. See? It wasn't that hard, and it causes a lot less problems.



posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 08:31 AM
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It takes a few days to edit a bunch of recordings into the conversation that will be proof. Searching archives takes a while



posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 11:55 AM
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What the US and the rest of the western powers are having issues with is the lack of confidence their respective populations have in their truth telling abilities. Can you blame us for not taking them at their word, lol.



posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 12:29 PM
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Originally posted by Feltrick
Seems foolish for the Assad Regime to use a chem attack when they are winning the war. It's far more believable to think that the rebels used them to gain international sentiment and involve the US/NATO. The rebels could have easily gotten hold of these weapons and used them on civilians thinking the ends justify the means.

After the intel screw up that led to the Iraq war, nothing can be taken at face value anymore. NATO forces will launch a few missiles and declare a moral victory....What happens next is up to Russia, Iran and Hezbollah.

Understandable, based on some (presumed to be true) factors listed below:
1) UN inspectors arriving in his countries just as the attack happens
2) He is well ahead and has access to military-grade weapons and equipment
3) Discovery by the western conspirators would completely destroy him

Except that it would be smart for Assad to order a chemical attack BECAUSE nobody would think he'd have the motive. Everybody seems to think only the rebels have a motive. Then syrian intelligence could covertly preplace chemical weapons in rebel areas. Once the chemical attack was over, syrian military could storm the area where the chemical weapons were preplaced and announce to the world they had discovered the perpetrator of hte crime. And thus they could use wmd and feasibly get away with it because people are stupid, but it won't trick the intelligence agencies. Unlike hte general public, intelligence agencies are taught all hte tricks and theyd' see right through the ruse.

The general public thinks certain things. Intelligence agencies can learn what these things are and then relay this information to the generals and leadership, so it can be exploited. This is more useful in dictatorships or similarly structured systems of government. The key thing is, they're myopic and don't follow the rules. The hard part is figuring out how a free country like the US can counter this. How do you counter someone who doesn't follow the rules and has no respect for human life?

Look at Gaddafi and Saddam and even Assad and watch how they manipulate their media opportunities. They give the impression they're friendly and support freedom for all people. They make you think they're of good heart and sound mind, but this is the furthest from the truth!!! Watch some of the old Hitler speeches and you can see how he massages people to believe him.

The reason war is common is BECAUSE it's hard to counter them without turning to war!! It's the nature of the problem. If someone doesn't follow the rules, they have to be stopped. This is even moreso important if they do not respect human life, as we see so often in dictatorships.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

In all this, it's clear to me the military authorities in the US are not fooled. They may very well have the smoking gun evidence they need right now to prove Assad's guilt. However, I believe convincing the general public is made difficult since they commonly believe Assad does not have the motive. It's possible this will pit the general public against the people who know what they're talking about. This is something right out of a tolken-esque story. The enemy divides its opponent by causing the general public to be hostile towards those who speak the truth. If we're to save our country we must eliminate the poison in its system that divides it, so it can be once again united.
edit on 28-8-2013 by jonnywhite because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by NoRulesAllowed

Originally posted by Dustytoad
reply to post by ValentineWiggin
the NSA found out by spying on phone conversations.. (doubt it)





Short: We all know NSA spies on you and me and works a zillion of "social profiles" through their super-computers, but you have doubts they would "spy" on the leaders in Syria? Seriously....

edit on 27-8-2013 by NoRulesAllowed because: (no reason given)


Nah you misunderstand me.
I have noticed when I was in the Army that real terror threats are not talked about. Real evidence not shown.
In this case other entities claim to have found the evidence not the US until just now all the sudden.. I don't believe their evidence. You are relying on the story that Assad ordered a chemical strike. I am not under that impression. In this case your points about NSA spying have no value since there was no phone conversation to begin with.

Now you understand my point.
edit on 8/28/2013 by Dustytoad because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 01:44 PM
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Yep, from the Israeli's, who definitely have a dog in this fight.

"Secret Evidence of Syrian Government Involvement in Chemical Weapons Attack Comes from… Israel"

willyloman.wordpress.com...


That “secret evidence” was provided to us by our good friends from Israel.
That’s right, the same Israel that really wants to keep the Golan Heights forever, have already tried to fabricate evidence of a previous chemical attack from Assad, and the same Israel that has already bombed Syria… twice.



posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 06:10 PM
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Well, I don't think Assad is a freedom loving, teddy bear but he ain't stupid either. He knows that the use of chemical weapons would invite the wrath of western governments. According to a report on CNN, the Assad Regime was accused of using chemical weapons on 39 separate occasions and yet no one could prove it. With every accusation, the rebels demand military support/intervention and each time they were turned down due to lack of evidence. What's a rebel commander to do....

Then, a large scale attack, killing 1,000+ women and children, comes to light and with it comes the much needed military aid the rebels have been demanding. UN inspectors were allowed access to the site and yet before they can finish their investigation, the US, France and UK have already pronounced guilt. VP Biden has stated that it's a matter of National Security (sound familiar) to attack the Assad regime.

Considering the mood of the masses after 10+ years of war, shouldn't the US government wait for confirmation by the UN inspectors before rattlin' them sabres? I mean, I can usually argue against this kind of crap and I'm starting to buy into the whole "false flag" BS surrounding this one. It's just way to convenient.

The use of chemical weapons served only to give the rebels the help they desperately needed.



posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 07:50 PM
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You may be right to not believe it.

The actual source can be found here:

Source.

When you look at the founders and members of FP, quite a few questionable people including some neo-cons:

Contributors.

Not to mention that the "source" of this information is "U.S. intelligence services"...

Not biased at all and completely believable...



posted on Aug, 28 2013 @ 08:05 PM
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If you see two of your enemies throwing stones at each other, what do you do?

1) Pick a side and root for one?
2) Pick a side and stand in the way of the stones?
3) Pick a side and gather some stones to throw?
4) Get some popcorn and hope for a well balanced altercation.

edit on 28-8-2013 by greencmp because: typo



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