Originally posted by bigman88
reply to post by eriktheawful
What conspiracy site was it that the picture first originated from?
Wasn't it established that the Navy was the first to produce these images? What evidence do we have that it was the Navy that first worked on this,
then a conspiracy site had produced a blurred image with the crappy 1.5 browser?
The government has not tried to blur anything before?
I'm using the same line of extreme scrutiny that debunkers prefer.
And yeah, i am still probably going to think that the government is hiding stuff from us, based solely on the fact that they have been caught red
handed hiding so much other sh**.
You are still not understanding the issue: the OP used an image that was NOT the original digital image from Clementine. Period.
The image from the conspiracy site was a screen capture from a panoramic browser, like Google Earth.
Time and time again, we tell people on here that using images that are screen captured from things like Google Earth is NOT a good idea. They contain
all sorts of errors in them like stitching errors, stretching, etc.
IF the OP had be SERIOUS about what he was doing, he would have taken the time to RESEARCH and LOCATE the ORIGINAL image of the area. Not taken a copy
of an image from a conspiracy site, and seen if the ORIGINAL image had the blur in it or not.
Even going to the Clementine Map Browser is NOT a good idea, as again, it's like Google Earth and can produce errors.
No, instead, the OP should have done some leg work and located the actual original images from that area. If he had, he would have found this web site
Clementine Online Data Volume PDS Node
He also would have located WHERE that image was (Zeeman Crater), and it's latitude and longitude coordinates, so that he could use the above site to
locate the original images.
If you go to that site, and scroll down to where it says: "Mission to the Moon: Full Resolution Clementine UVVIS Digital Image Model", you will have
a index for the images to look through.
Had he (the OP) done that, he would have found the original image (and not one produced by browsing software, nor a screen capture on a conspiracy
Image Source Link
A little MORE research and the OP would have found that the original images were originally placed on
88 CD ROM volumes
This isn't about "having an open or closed mind", nor is it about "debunkers vs. believers". This is about the fact that the OP failed horribly
in trying to prove something, all because he didn't do proper research, nor did he vette his sources.
Even the most paranoid Conspiracy Theorist learns to do proper research.
Phage used to have a great saying in his signature from Mark Twain: "Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please."