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Originally posted by darkbake
What kind of applications do you use lucid dreaming for? I've been working on improving my skills with this for a while, and the other night I ended up doing an astral jump I guess - although it was pretty rough around the edges for sure.
If you successfully do lucid dream, I am fairly sure (as in sure but not done it myself yet) that you can use that as a platform for such things as astral and time travel.
My lucid dreaming abilities are incredibly inconsistent. The only interference I have in my dreams comes from a friend of mine whom I am psychically connected to, she will send me a message every once in a while, two nights ago, she was freaking out. Although I know that my mom at one time was meeting up with a council during her meditations (of Buddhist influence) before she ended up having a stroke - I'm not sure she can meditate any longer.
I would like to add that my mom would communicate with one of her friends both in a communal meditation ground and in person, and would share information that way, and it would be consistent.
What I am saying, is from my experience and my research efforts, I am sure that it is possible you could be getting interference - especially if it seems like these guys have free wills of their own - I would forget about the demon terminology, as extra-dimensional would be more appropriate, or anything, even interfering playful entities or other people who decided to enter your dream for some reason.
The best way to determine their threat level or whatever would be through behaviorism - just see what they are up to, and it is what it is. There are shielding techniques, banishing techniques, etc. you could try.
Since it is a lucid dream, you could just make up your own framework for whatever it is you want to do, a banishing technique would work, I've used that before, although not on anything I would consider interfering with my lucid dream - just a bad dreamscape situation.edit on 27-8-2013 by darkbake because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by teachtaire
In this situation, the interference manifested itself as a doppelganger/vehicle with tinted windows. This (what I imagine is an anthropomorphic personification,) caused interference by creating atemporal/nonlinear events in such quick succession that I had no choice but to wake myself up. The funny thing was, each time I put myself back into that level of deep-sleep the level of interference would increase... more and more "actors" would start following me around in the dream and interfere with whatever I was doing. Culminating with me hiding from them and placing a linear marker for later reference.
So, has anyone else experienced this issue? And what methods are there to avoiding/remedying the situation. I'm going to go to a library to see what I can find, but the last time I checked there was a conspicuous absence of literature on the subject.
Originally posted by AriesJedi
I have had lucid dreams and the ability to fly has been practiced and achieved.
Then the attacks started, there are certain people who are trained to 'feel' a lucid dreamer and 'THEY' know who would be capable of this so THEY keep an eye on your abilities.
In the astral world there are artifacts that have been destroyed and THEY are getting a bit pissed off because these artifacts hold much power.
Everything that is physical is also in the astral world and there are artifacts in the physical world too, that Hitler started to find in WWII.
THEY have decided that all lucid dreamers are potential artifact destroyers so if you are a lucid dreamer you are now a target. If you are frightned enough by them to stop lucid dreaming, they leave you alone. If not they send nightmare dreams after you.
These I have had, they are not nice. So I found a way to get them back.
I wake myself up and find the thread they leave, follow it conciously and then attack them before they can rise out of their dream state. I usually leave a calling card; physically. This usually leaves them too frightened to be of any use to their controllers.
It can only be used in defence though, they have to attack first otherwise you are in violation and your abilities get demoted.
There is a war in the astral world at present and all psychics who dream, are being called up to serve-on both sides. The dark and the Light.
Originally posted by teachtaire
Well, the non-spiritual scientific methodological way to do it is to either have external stimuli or to try to read something while you are in a dream. Having difficulty reading the same thing twice should be a major clue.