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Alien Implants, are they for Tracking and/or Control?

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posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 01:03 AM
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Many abductees or those who believe they have been abducted by aliens have claimed to have been implanted
with small objects which when removed and analyzed can not be explained. This phenomena has been
researched by Dr. Roger K. Leir:


Dr. Roger K. Leir is one of the worlds most important leaders in physical evidence research involving the field of Ufology. In this special session he will reveal scientific proof that WE ARE NOT ALONE. Dr. Leir is a pediatric surgeon, in private practice for the past 43 years and has written numerous books including The Aliens and the Scalpel, UFO Crash in Brazil, and Casebook Alien Implants.



Dr. Roger Leir and his surgical team have performed 14 surgeries on alleged alien abductees, resulting in the removal of 15 objects suspected of being alien implants. These objects have been scrutinized by some of the most prestigious laboratories in the world: Los Alamos National Labs, Seal Laboratories, the University of Toronto, and the University of California-San Diego. Their findings have been baffling and some comparisons have been made to meteorite samples. In addition, several tests show metallurgical anomalies such as highly magnetic iron, combinations of crystalline materials with common metals, as well as isotopic ratios not of this world. Dr. Leir has traveled to Brazil and performed exhaustive research into the Varginha, Brazil case. He has recently formed a 501(C) 3 non-profit organization for this purpose called A & S Research Inc.

See full article here:
www.alienscalpel.com...

I have heard Leir on talk radio claim that the implants are made of materil not recognizable as from this
planet when it is analyzed by lab testing.
What do you think, is this another indication that man is not alone in the universe?
And if they [aliens] are doing this what is the reason?

-AlienView




posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 01:16 AM
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Abduction event experiences are largely the product of Psychological phenomenon.

Implants?
Well, isn't it just a little bit conspicuous when people go to an alien implant specialist, who's really actually just a podatrist, to have these so called implants removed?

It's important to note that No claims coming from Leir have been reliably independently verified.
All we essentially have is Leir's word on any claims.

Further, so called implants, just as abduction experiences being largely psychological are physical artifacts of, yet again, Psychological phenomenon where subjects will self harm for outside validity of their delusions; "Behold, I have an implant, so all my world of mouth delusional stories MUST be true!"

Of course it's more subtle than that, and in many cases the delusion demands that the players play coy, and give lip service to not wanting to be known, or scared of unwanted attention and other sorts of clap trap. In reality, they're getting attention validation from the players they engage in their delusion, and often enough that's enough.

Believe what you will if you must, but, it aint so.
People have believed in stranger things that weren't true.
Entire cultures thrived on beliefs in things that weren't true. How about all those animal headed Egyptian gods eh? The blood thirsty gods of the Mayans?

People rather love to believe in imaginary super beings, and will go to some interesting lengths to validate their own delusions.


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posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 01:37 AM
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posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 01:40 AM
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Here are some findings from surgeries that have removed some of these implants:


“The findings of these implant surgeries are highly unusual,” reported Dr. Leir. “In all these cases, there was virtually no inflammatory response.” This is not the usual finding in foreign tissue reactions. Normally, foreign bodies embedded in tissues result in some type of acute or chronic inflammatory response, and may include fibrosis and cyst formation. Such was not the case here. The pathology reports of the first two surgeries revealed that the metallic objects were encased in a very dense, tough, grey membrane consisting of proteinaceous coagulum, hemoseridin and pure keratin. More simply, blood protein and skin cells that are usually found in the superficial layer of the skin. The tough, biological “cocoons” encasing the implants were also found to contain nerve proprioceptors – nerve and pressure cells of the wrong tissue type for that part of the body. These implant cocoons also fluoresced a bright green color in the presence of an ultraviolet light source.



The implants from the two women from the second set of surgeries did not exhibit metallic properties like the implants from the first set of surgeries. In fact, the spheroid, whitish objects did not contain the tough, biological outer jackets, or fluoresce from a UV light source. These types of implants (possibly biological) also lacked the expected inflammatory response, according to the pathology reports. The crystalline-like object excised from the foot in the most recent surgery, also lacked the tough, grey, outer membrane and had virtually no inflammatory response, as in the other implant surgeries. Test results from the first set of implants revealed that the lammelar, needle shaped metallic objects in question are basically meteoric in origin, containing at least eleven different elements.


See whole article here:
evelorgen.com...



posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 01:40 AM
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Well I was in the military. If I'm chipped, it was they who chipped me when they re-adminstered all my shots, that I was already current and up-to-date on.


But anyways, to the hypothesis that is the basis for your thread...

If alien abduction or cross dimensional abduction is happening, I'd imagine that chips found in the tissue of the body is for tracking. While devices found along the nervous system might have to do with control...

Cirque



posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 01:41 AM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Were I to wager a guess, I think the majority of implants (at least what evidence I've encountered) of actual subdermal insertions being held up to scientific testing and anaylsis, most of them are just shaped stones of various compositions.

Since there are no visible scars present before the forgien object is removed for testing, I'd wager one of two options:

Either the "implant" is some weird natural bodily manifestation, like a kidney stone, but in an inexplicable manifestation and location.

or

We're dealing with a type of ritualistic beings who can use a form of tranference technology in order to place the stone under the skin. I mention the ritualistic aspect based on old Native legends of sacred stones, and other tribes use of subdermal implantation as a mark of a protected or special person within the group. Sometimes such things are purely for rite of passage markers. There is an old saying that one is "worthy of his stones".

If the latter assertation is correct, I'd assume they're for keeping track of their contactees.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.






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posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 02:05 AM
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I found a more scientific study of the phenomenon and will quote part of the article:


They are normally irregular and covered with an oily shell+ hard coating that prevents body rejection. Produce no immune response. Biological tissue grows from the metal. This was seen with EDX Electron Microscopy.

Some of the implants emit FM electromagnetic radiation radio signals before removal in scalar-related frequencies 93 MHz, 15 MHz, even a frequency used in sattelite space communications. Seem to have a surface coating, sensitive to phonons in order to retransmit soundwaves. If you break them they reassemble (Bob Koontz). There are carbon nano tube electronics in these devices not found in nature (Steve Colbern). They seem to be single-wall nano tubes. Steve Colbern, chemist material scientist, nano technician finds them far advanced from formal Earth (and possibly covert Earth) technology. Roger Leir mentions that they are often found in many places, rather superficially in the body but also near bones. Nerve cells connect to the devices!! Some of the objects have strong magnetic fields of over 10 milligauss.

Some 15% of abductees show significant fluorescent glows on skin area for up to 1 month (detectable with UV-A, but more with UV-B and UV-C). Small metal detectors and X-rays and Gauss meters can detect them in the body. Off course if with X-rays it’s difficult to locate them CAT scans can locate them more precisely.

No visible signs of entry/no known portal of entry. If entry signs are detected right after an implant event they close up and leave no mark in a day or two. About 24 implants have been recovered.

Some have regular ortho rhombic crystalline structures of sodium chloride that are rectangular and varying in size (Steve Colbern). Perhaps they are used to generate scalar radio frequencies (Bob Koontz). Often when podiatric surgeon Roger Leir tries to remove them with surgical steel they move away from the scalpel.

If about 2% of U.S. population with various signs of abduction is really indicative, perhaps the number of implanted people is -relatively speaking- quite large. If this is real. How many individuals are being implanted or monitored in other ways by non-grey ET beings?

This is constantly news because it is still happening and new evidence is always coming up

See full article here:
exonews.org...
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posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 02:26 AM
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posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 06:53 AM
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Sorry, but I've seen enough of the esteemed podiatrist to come to the conclusion that he is full of it. His appearance on UFO Hunters where he removed a so-called implant was the last nail in the coffin as far as I'm concerned.
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posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 07:47 AM
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According to the book I am currently reading, "ETs and Aliens" by Noel Huntley, Ph.D., these devices are used by the Gray's to capture and understand human emotion. His book, from channeled sources, indicates that they implant, and extract these for purposes of their emotional development.



posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 11:01 AM
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Originally posted by Jchristopher5
According to the book I am currently reading, "ETs and Aliens" by Noel Huntley, Ph.D., these devices are used by the Gray's to capture and understand human emotion. His book, from channeled sources, indicates that they implant, and extract these for purposes of their emotional development.



"Channeled sources"?

No offense, but a book based on psychic plagiarism by someone with an agenda is little more than a work of fiction.



posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 11:11 AM
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I understand. I find the book interesting, but yeah, you have to take it all with a grain of salt.



posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 11:52 AM
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posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 12:46 PM
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Scientists and wildlife researchers tag wildlife to track herd movement, lifespan, etc.
What if these beings are doing the same with mankind, to track OUR movement across the earth?
Just my theory...



posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 01:44 PM
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Originally posted by Jchristopher5
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I understand. I find the book interesting, but yeah, you have to take it all with a grain of salt.


A good read is a good read. Don't have to buy into it.



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posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 05:02 PM
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No disrespect to your post, but like many other posts similar, well similar in as much as they ask questions that no one can answer, and at the end of all the criss-crossing of opinions, nothing is actually gained, because it's a subject no one knows anything about, so really you are asking if people have a theory on the supposed implants and assuming aliens are actually real,

If we go with it and believe aliens exist and have been known to nab the odd one or two humans for a bit of medical investigation, then I guess it's feasible to assume the implants which have been removed from some who claim abduction by said aliens, are for some sort of information gathering, after all we tag creatures and let them go again to get knowlege of where they travel and when they travel etc.. so I can only assume it's the same with those implants perhaps even recording audio or maybe they connect to the nervous systom and perhaps they can receive whatever our eyes are looking at, kind of thinking our eyes are cams for those who receive the signals from these implants... so as improbable as all that seems, no one can shoot it down because no one knows if any of this is true or false.. meaning we learn nothing apart from knowing what some peoples imaginagions come up with...



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