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BUSTED! US, UK, back false-flag chemical attack in Syria

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posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 09:39 AM
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It could more easily be a provocation to war. Yea we gassed some folks.....now what are you going to do about it?

Some ask why, what's to gain? How about making the west look ineffectual and weak when someone gets in their face. How about just pure mass murderers at work with no fear of what we did to Sadam for his gassing and other mass killings.




posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 09:40 AM
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Originally posted by Zaphod58
Yes, because despite knowing how many hacking attempts and cyberattacks there have been, they're going to put their big plan in an email accessible to the net, instead of say, picking up a phone, or having a face to face meeting, or hell, even using Skype. And they're not going to use innocent sounding words or even try to disguise what they're taking about. Makes perfect sense to me.


No someone leaked the info and later had to recant it as a hoax after threats were made. I cant prove it but my logic tells me this is the way it is. It has happened many times in the past!

What we are seeing in syria has all been pre-planned months or years ago. That is why evil people like kerry and mccain keep blaming assad for everything despite having no proof of who used chemical weapons.

There have been videos of muslim brotherhood fighters stockpilling sarin gas and planning to use it. NATO has fully supported MB for years now and is holly repsonsible for arab spring. It seems just when assad is ready to declare victory here come the nato arseholes(usa, uk, france) to thwart progress and destroy syria once and for all.



posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by khimbar
It's taken down because it was faked.

They had to take it down.

www.theguardian.com...


Martin Wood, for Associated Newspapers, said in a statement before the judge, Mrs Justice Nicola Davies: "My lady, on behalf of the defendant, I confirm that the defendant offers its sincere apologies to the claimants for the damage and distress caused by the publication of these false allegations, which had appeared on US websites.

"The defendant acknowledges that the emails in question were completely fabricated and that there is no question of any of the claimants being involved – or even considering becoming involved – in the heinous actions to which the article referred. The defendant is pleased to set the record straight."


Knowing what we know now from Snowden, blackmail could very well be involved here. Nevertheless, many facts point to this being a real scenario planned at least months ago.



posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 09:58 AM
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Originally posted by yorkshirelad

Originally posted by Wookiep
How credible is the Daily Mail, normally? I honestly know nothing about it..But if they ARE considered credible, then let me get this straight...

The daily mail is an extreme right wing tabloid newspaper with a reputation for being full of utter cr.p

Nobody with an IQ in double figures or more (!) would trust the daily mail.


Nobody trusts rense.com either, but LOTS of truth can be found there regardless.

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posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 10:16 AM
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Originally posted by benrl
Yeah and the US had plans called project north woods to hijack planes crash them and blame the terror attacks on Castro so they could invade Cuba on false pretenses, Doesn't mean they did it...

ETA, the above is sarcasm...
edit on 26-8-2013 by benrl because: ...
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If it's all BS then why are all of the above links down for some reason?
This is more proof then seeing the article itself!



posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 10:18 AM
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Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
In the event the Web Archive is scrubbed, here is a screen capture of the article.
DailyMail: U.S. backed plan to launch chemical weapon attack on Syria and blame it on Assad's regime


not anymore



posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 10:32 AM
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Eh....


According to Infowars.com


Ya.... I'm gunna have to sit on the fence with this one.



posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 10:38 AM
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Libya, Egypt, now Syria, who is next on the hit list? I think this probably is a false flag, an excuse for war, and excuse to remove the current leadership and replace it with one that is more favorable to the NWO. The main stream media trumping it up is another clue.



posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by Logarock
reply to post by SecretFace
 


It could more easily be a provocation to war. Yea we gassed some folks.....now what are you going to do about it?

Some ask why, what's to gain? How about making the west look ineffectual and weak when someone gets in their face. How about just pure mass murderers at work with no fear of what we did to Sadam for his gassing and other mass killings.


Possibly, but then why deny it? Surely they should come out and say yeah it was us, what are you going to do? Then here's another attack and another, they've got, apparently, a mass stock pile of various chemical weapons. To me, I don't think Assad or anyone in his regime is as suicidal as that, this has been going on for two years now, why use them now, right at the very time that use of chemical weapons was being mentioned as the only reason the West would get involved?

He could be a nut job, but in the two years this conflict has been raging for he has not displayed lunatic like actions. The atrocities we have seen have been carried out by the terrorist scum who the US call, freedom fighters.

It doesn't add up to me at all.



posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 10:54 AM
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Thanks for showing that. It's sad that people keep regurgitating this.

Here's the link again for those who're unaware:
www.theguardian.com -
Daily Mail in £100,000-plus payout over Syrian chemical weapons story...


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Daily Mail publisher Associated Newspapers agreed the six-figure libel settlement after accepting that the emails were fabricated and that the allegation of a chemical weapons plot was untrue.
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posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 10:56 AM
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I found the article on a poker site i visit often.
i doubt that they wil remove the article
U.S. 'backed plan to launch chemical weapon attack on Syria and blame it on Assad's regime'



posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 10:58 AM
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I'm genuinely curious.

Given this was found to be faked by a court of law (even if true or not) is ATS, by hosting the picture of the story, opening itself to legal action?

If the Daily Mail had to take it down, and ATS keep it up and people keep stating it to be true, could the people involved sue ATS?

Especially if hosted on their server?



posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 11:08 AM
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You can hear from Kerry's rhetoric as clear as day that they're bent on going into Syria. It's like they can't even be bothered any longer in making their actions seem legitimate. At least with the "WMD's" they put in some effort- this shít's just embarrassing.



posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 11:24 AM
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If it does turn out to be true,
It's a reminder to keep an eye on Contractors.
Many are far too preoccupied with watching Governments.
Governments know this all to well, and farm out their
dirty work to contractors.

Couldnt mercs be responsible for just about all the latest terror events?
911- 7/7- Libyan embassy attack and now Syria?



posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 11:25 AM
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Sorry dbl post





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posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 11:47 AM
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Originally posted by SecretFace

Originally posted by Leonidas
Oh shut up with this false-flag # every time someone gets a parking ticket.

I am wondering aloud about where ATS would be like if we could somehow vet new members better. The core of the site and members is still solid. But the cancer of paranoia, politics and media are leaking into the fringes and too much of the site is becoming like any other slanted hate-rage extremism you can find on Youtube or lesser forums.

I am not making any judgement on this attack.

I am also sorry for the rant guys. Truly. But this site is something better than what is out there and I hope we can keep it that way for a while longer at least.


I agree with you in part, a lot of events seem to get thrown in as a false flag and I think, WTF are you talking about? However, in this instance and probably one of the very few I will agree with, this is a false flag, without a doubt. I've worked in police and government on operational work for over ten years, its plain as day for me! I agree the vast majority of events that get ATS members jumping up and down claiming flase flag are BS, but not this.

They needed a chemical attack, they get one and even better on civilian targets, without any shred of proof that Assad's government carried it out they point straight at him, knowing full well the dubious charachters making up multiple factions involved in the Syrian civil war are just as likely, if not more so, to carry out the attack. They know this because they've been arming them!

Ask yourself, who would benefit most from a chemical attack at this stage? Assad's army has been doing very well against the terrorist scum. Why would they attack now? They would know it would lead to international military intervention. Who would gain the most? Not Assad and I will bet my house that its not an order from him. We hear of atrocities carried out by Assad's soldiers, we see atrocities carried out by the terrorist scum.

Of all the threads on ATS claiming false flag, this by far the only one I've known to be accurate.



Aye, you are right and I agree with you on this one I think.

I should not post in anger, I am old enough to know better but it feels dishonest to delete it. Ironic that the one false-flag thread I lose my temper over is the one lately that has the most potential to be true.

My main concern is the potential to lose the sort of real and credible research and discussion that happens here. We can't expect the caliber of the "Ask Me Anything" guests to stay strong or get better if we become just another avenue for spewing extreme and thoughtless points of view.

Is it me, or have the flame-wars become more frequent? I remember when we could have discussions and even heated debate without any ad hominen attacks. I have no allusions of "the good old days" but I would like to hang onto what we have for as long as possible.



posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 12:05 PM
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As the recent chemical attacks appear (presently, based on MSM and British/American sources, even including conspiracy sources) to have been solely the province of Syrians or factions within Syria that are seemingly non-Russian, I guess we shall have to wait and see whether the UN inspectors uncover 'evidence' of Russian complicity, in order for the original 'Britam plan' to take full effect (drawing the Russians into a global conflict centred around the ME).

I think we are seeing the outworking of long-held plans, and it is all drawn up regardless of borders - with no real regard for anything but filthy lucre.

I believe the Daily Mail sold themselves and faked their 'retraction', paying a measly settlement etc,bringing themselves in line with what the Elite are calling for - which is the global conflict in which they can ultimately emerge from their DUMBs as the 'gods' reigning over the 'savages' who managed to survive the chaos. There is a long-held notion in CT circles that the 'Illuminati' always let the public know of their plans in advance in some way, and perhaps the published/ quickly redacted article by the Daily Mail (right wing newspaper) was the vehicle for this forewarning.

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This is just the beginning. I predicted long ago here on ATS that the decision to enact intervention in Syria will lead to WW3. In a specific thread, I explained how I dreamt about it, in a somewhat cryptic fashion, almost ten years ago. The coded symbolism of many of my dreams of the past twenty years and more seem to be working out pristinely in the events of the present day, often in ways that surprise me. My supposition is that there are others who are/ have been having similar dreams for a long period of time. I think Someone is helping us to prepare in advance - at least within our own hearts - even if there is nothing we can actually do about what is unfolding, and this is the reason for the dreams.




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posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 12:07 PM
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Wow! You are right about this one being buried really deep in the net. The really slow loading time is evidence of that. Some of my fellow indie journalist, activist and news buff comrades have been looking at this one a little bit closer and it is really hard to dig up all sides of this story. The actual leaked cables are really hard to find. I have as of yet not been able to get access to the cables. I am sure they are out there.

I would really like some help digging up the actual leaked cables. If anyone here on ATS can dig up those cables it would big a huge help.

If you find those all important cables please post them and shoot me a PM message with the link. I would be very thankful for your effort.



posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 12:14 PM
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It is far too soon for the Americans or us Brits to prove who carried out the chemical attack. There are seven distinct factions in Syria (at least) - the amount of misinfo/disinfo/counterintel etc would boggle the NSA supercomputers even if it was all loaded up neatly (which it isn't).

It is clear from this simple fact, that there is and was an agenda to attack Syria, long before this chemical attack took place.. To wait until the UN inspectors had finished their inspection would have been the legitimate course of action. The fact that Britain is consulting the Attorney General over the outcome, legally speaking, of a non-UN endorsed attack on Syria, is further evidence of a definite agenda.

ETA - All of this saddens me. Britain should know better - I am disappointed that we are banging the war drums in support of non-evidenced American claims that Assad carried out the chemical attacks.. Someone surely must know the truth, and care enough to bring it to the attention of the People. Perhaps Britain has a whistleblower in the shadows somewhere?


ETA 2 - Just learnt from the BBC six o' clock news that Parliament MPs will be recalled from their summer break to be consulted (briefed) on the proposed intervention in Syria. It's real, it will happen, and it is likely to lead to horrendous consequences.



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posted on Aug, 27 2013 @ 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by FlyInTheOintment

ETA 2 - Just learnt from the BBC six o' clock news that Parliament MPs will be recalled from their summer break to be consulted (briefed) on the proposed intervention in Syria. It's real, it will happen, and it is likely to lead to horrendous consequences.


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Well if they have ANY COMMON SENSE AT ALL they will veto the war plans and call out BS!

Am I holding my breath? No.

Will intervention lead to WW3? Probably not yet, but we are getting closer and closer. I absolutely loathe what our governments have become. If they go through with this there actions should not go unpunished. Vote socialist party next time, as it cant be worse than the trash we currently have in the usa, uk, france.



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