The New World Order: Does anybody care anymore, page 1
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Topic started on 11-11-2004 @ 10:32 PM by yekway
Maybe its just me but as a people, do we really want to go down a path where it will only lead to lies and decit.

I have noticed that there are alot of views on this site, where people think they are right and every one else must look to them as the people in the know but if we were to confront these so called know it alls. I bet they would fall quicker on what they dont know rather than the what they do.

There is so much lies and contol on the actual real info that if we as a people were to even get at it we wouldnt know what we were looking at. For as much talk that is going around Im not too sure if there is enough action to back this all up. Yes its good to discuss certain views and whatnot but how about meeting up and starting a physical community. A physical ats!

I have seen a ats convention thread where some of us are supposed to meet up, thats a great idea. But where after that. Back to our realties/illusion. In our cosy little homes rasing children and handleing our so called chores in daily life, whilset in the real world a certain agenda is happing right underneath our noses.

The Illuminati was started some time back in the18th centuray by a guy named Wissehupt (please correct me if Im wrong).

This group (which is secert/ but not secert because we all know now), is still in the world today. And it dosent matter if there are groups like Bone and Skulls or whatever, its not about them, its about the higherarchy and always has been.

But as a people what are u/me going to do about it.

Well me Im going to .....


reply posted on 18-12-2004 @ 09:45 PM by cotwom
I do not believe the Illuminati have anything to do with the NWO if there is an NWO.

Here's a quote from the Secret Societies section concerning the Illuminati that I absolutely love.

Originally posted by Masonic Light

The Illuminati was originally a society of freethinkers and liberals called the Society of Perfectibilis, founded in 1774 at the University of Ingolstadt in Bavaria by Adam Weishaupt, a professor of Natural Philosophy. Both the college and the Bavarian government were under Jesuit control, and, in 1776, Weishaupt was fired for teaching "anti-Christian doctrines", i.e., Deist doctrines, separation of church and state, and secular education.

The Society was re-organized after this incident, and they changed their names to "Illuminati", indicating their allegiance to the "Age of Enlightenment" over what is known as the "dark ages", i.e., the period where all European life was strictly controlled by the Church and its dogma.

Influenced by the American Revolution, Weishaupt re-structured the Illuminati to be similar to Freemasonry and the American secret society called Sons of Liberty who were responsible for launching the Revolution against England (and most probably the Boston Tea Party).

The Jesuit Electorate soon infiltrated the Illuminati with secret agents, and many of their members were arrested for participating in revolutionary activities. Weishaupt fled to Prussia, where he wrote his memoires "In Defense of Illuminism", in exile.

Because the Roman Church wished to completely suppress freethinking societies, they launched a propaganda campaign distorting their agenda. For example, when the Illuminati called for separation of church and state, the Church called this "destruction of Christianity." When the Illuminati called for free, popular democratic elections, the Church called this "anarchy". When the Illuminati called for equal rights between men and women, the Church called this "destruction of the family."

Modern conspiracy theory concerning the Illuminati is a direct descendent of this Jesuit disinformation campaign. In reality, the Illuminati was short-lived, and was always poplulated by government spies who kept tabs on the order's leaders and their agendas.

Famous members of the Illuminati include Weishaupt, Baron Adolph von Knigge, the poet Johannes von Goethe, the alchemist and physician Comte de St. Germaine, and composer Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart. Mozart dedicated his final opera, "Die Zauberflote" ("The Magic Flute") to the Illuminati, and to Freemasonry, of which he was also a member.


I hope Masonic Light doesn't mind I quoted that.
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