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Originally posted by SunnyDee
reply to post by BritofTexas
If it reaches a second page it will be surprising. There is nothing to talk about here.
Originally posted by jimmyx
your right, as one of the few left-of center members that still argue with these people, it seems that there is simply an agenda to discredit the president, no matter if it is the truth or not. I have had points deducted for my rebukes about the validity of their claims. obviously, my idea of trying to be clever in my wording, rather than use out and out vulgarity, wasn't fully appreciated by some of our MODS. their accumulation of stars and points reminds me of men standing in a round-shaped group, using their hands to fully compliment each other to a mutually satisfying conclusion.
Maybe if you liberal minded in this thread want to see some liberal threads, you should start some, instead of a wining rant thread on what you clearly don't understand.
Originally posted by Indigo5
Originally posted by SunnyDee
reply to post by BritofTexas
If it reaches a second page it will be surprising. There is nothing to talk about here.
I have to disagree...the "bubble" phenomena...aka echo-chamber...where a political party continues to move further toward it's fringe base and receives INCREASING and LOUDER "applause" while not fully realizing that while that applause is louder and larger, it is from a smaller number of people the farther to the right/left that they move the rhetoric.
The echo-chamber...the bubble...the "circle jerk"...the preaching to the choir vs. the congregation...etc. etc.
It creates a false illusion of larger support than is there...
It is why Karl Rove had that shocked, dumbfounded look on his face during the election coverage last November.
It is why Mitt Romney could not recover from his far-right rhetoric during the primary debates...he couldn't etch-n-sketch fast enough.
It is why people on the right attacked Nate Silver for doing math...his predictions seemed alien and bias to those stuck in the self-congratulatory bubble.
It is why smart GOP strategists have tried to move the party away from the far right, and having failed, are strategizing ways to limit the damage of the echo-chamber....Fewer primary debates...and less network coverage...NO CNN...NO NBC etc. etc.
Otherwise...the far-right remains the "center" of the GOP Rhetoric...Because of outlets and forums where like-minds applaud one another and dismiss all challengers as "Marxists’ and "socialists"....warm and cozy in thier bubble.
Louder, increasing applause...from a smaller and smaller base as the GOP slides further rightward.
The last buggy-whip manufacturer in the USA thought they were on top of the world! There sales were through the roof in the last few years. They were dominating the market, incredible growth, but what they didn't realize is that they were gaining customers because all of thier competition was going out of business as folks moved to automobiles. Rapidly growing share of a rapidly shrinking market.
Originally posted by NorEaster
...why does it have to be so lopsided in its madness?
Aren't the progressives pissed off about anything?
Originally posted by xuenchen
Can't figure out what the problem is.
Originally posted by SunnyDee
reply to post by BritofTexas
If it reaches a second page it will be surprising. There is nothing to talk about here. Give people credit. Also, in this era in America, liberal ideas, ones the govt sells, wreak of socialist controls. Gun control? Diane Feinstein wants to ban automatic, or semi-automatic weopons. She really wants to ban all guns, she'll tell you herself, but she is trying to start slow and get the most lethal ones out of law abiding citizens hands.
Think about our Constitution and amendments. Why were they written so clearly? Exactly for what is happening right now and happened 250 years ago. An overreaching govt (England) wanted to control and over charge people who had tried to escape such tyranny.
I am (and so are you) probably as smart or more than likely smarter than many who makes our laws of this land. I do not want more needless laws and garnishments of my rights. If our country went back to let's say....1988's laws do you think our nation would better or worse for wear?
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by NorEaster
OP? I kinda agree with you.
I miss not having people that would argue for;
Higher taxes
Less freedoms
Anti-Snowden, Pro-NSA
Gun Control
Pro-censorship
Patriot Act
NDAA
TSA
Please come back!
Originally posted by muse7
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by NorEaster
OP? I kinda agree with you.
I miss not having people that would argue for;
Higher taxes
Less freedoms
Anti-Snowden, Pro-NSA
Gun Control
Pro-censorship
Patriot Act
NDAA
TSA
Please come back!
Wasn't the NSA, Patriot act and TSA the products of a Republican administration?
Originally posted by Flatfish
Things may be looking up by golly, we actually made it to page 2.
Originally posted by xuenchen
I wish we had more thread authors that highlight the 'Left' views.
Can't figure out what the problem is.
Originally posted by BritofTexas
Originally posted by Flatfish
Things may be looking up by golly, we actually made it to page 2.
Indeed. It is quite a surprise.
However as of posting this, NorEaster has only received 8 Flags and 12 Stars for his OP,
If he had started a thread on "I've just broke wind and it smells like Obama", the ATS server would have crashed from all the S&F clicks.
Onward to page 3.
Originally posted by jimmyx
Originally posted by SunnyDee
reply to post by BritofTexas
If it reaches a second page it will be surprising. There is nothing to talk about here. Give people credit. Also, in this era in America, liberal ideas, ones the govt sells, wreak of socialist controls. Gun control? Diane Feinstein wants to ban automatic, or semi-automatic weopons. She really wants to ban all guns, she'll tell you herself, but she is trying to start slow and get the most lethal ones out of law abiding citizens hands.
Think about our Constitution and amendments. Why were they written so clearly? Exactly for what is happening right now and happened 250 years ago. An overreaching govt (England) wanted to control and over charge people who had tried to escape such tyranny.
I am (and so are you) probably as smart or more than likely smarter than many who makes our laws of this land. I do not want more needless laws and garnishments of my rights. If our country went back to let's say....1988's laws do you think our nation would better or worse for wear?
our rights are determined by the ruling of the Supreme Court. the Supreme Court gave corporations the same rights as human beings, when clearly corporations are entities inscribed in writing that are formed to conduct business in a certain way. the Supreme Court has ruled that protections under the 4th amendment that guard against government control of it's people no longer applies...examples: "probable cause" has been downgraded to "reasonable suspicion" in the 4th amendment. search of and seizure of property no longer apply as written in the 4th amendment. the acquiring of a search warrant is no longer needed in each case.
in fact, the Supreme Court just invalidated the power of the civil rights act, by allowing any state to change voting laws at any time, even right before an election to eliminate certain people from voting... and the only recourse is to take it to court, which happens after the election.
gee, I wonder why the above has not been vigorously pummeled by the republicans, the freedom party, patriot party, and tea party organizations.
Originally posted by beezzer
Look for my thread. . .
"I've just broke wind and it smells like Obama"