Originally posted by NewAgeMan
Originally posted by guitarplayer
See there you go the OP asked for Christians to respond and like a good liberal you felt compeled to include everyone when everyone was not invited to
the party. Please comply to the OP's request.
But ironically, and tragically, isn't that the dichotomy and the reason that we're so resented and the truths we wish to share, so reviled, this
notion that it's an exclusive club, with outsiders not only excluded, but condemned even to eternal damnation?
The Christian party is a wedding celebration involving the communion and consummation of the Spirit and the Bride as an all-inclusive all-or-nothing
proposition and invitation for which ALL are invited, where the first to refuse the invitation are those who's preoccupations and attachments prevent
their realization or appropriation of the Great Gift, causing the invitation to go out to those who are more open-minded and willing and then
with room to spare, to those with nothing to lose and everything to gain whereby it may be said that those who've been forgiven more, love more.
The narrow minded and ignorant presumption of that poster, and their no so veiled jab, simply reveals more about their own character, than anything to
do with Christianity, just like how everything we say and do speaks clearly about who we are and how our heart works.
That said, that Christendom has done such a very poor job representing the invitation of all ages as an exclusive proposition of "believe and receive,
or, go to hell" is it any wonder that there's all this backlash? From the outside looking in, it doesn't appear all that inviting and that, my friends
is a crying shame, perhaps much worse than barbs tossed our way by atheist flag waving (what a strange concept) sycophantic naysayers, who ought to be
smart enough to see and recognize how loathsome their behavior really is, by their own words and demeanor.
We all still have so much work to do, to really appropriate what is being offered to us by God in Christ and in really getting it and taking it all
in, overflowing in love and forgiveness even to the degree that "outsiders" might become attracted to us as a pearl in formation fit to adorn the city
There is nothing repelling about the the love of God made known and transparent through the person of Jesus Christ who's invitation extends itself in
the most unlikely and unexpected, directions.
Of course it's obvious why the OP made the appeal they did, but at another level this whole exclusive club stuff isn't really in congruent alignment
with the commission we've been given, to share and preach the Good News of the Gospel to the rest of the world, one person at a time, and I just don't
see how it could be construed as a loving and open invitation to say to someone that if they do NOT accept it, they and everyone else on the "outside"
will be condemned to hellfire and damnation.
Jesus is for all people and everyone in their heart of hearts is seeking him, who is also the very best of the best of who they really are and are
meant to be and to become as children of a loving God.
So I can't condemn them or anyone, and humbly ask that they might reconsider the invitation that's being offered as a free gift that none of us are
"worthy" to receive but that is offered to us anyway in spite of ourselves, and that's FUNNY! imho.
God bless you whoever gave me a star for this post.
We as "Christians" must wrestle with this issue, in terms of what many think is a demarcation point of salvation, and that I see as an outwardly
rippling universal phenomenon of a compelling Christian enlightenment which is so compelling that it will leave atheists in its wake crying tears
first of sorrow and then hilarity at the realization and recognition that we've all been "punk'd by God" in the best possible way.
Literalist fundamentalist conservative evangelical Christianity, by it's own belief and conviction that they alone have inherited heaven, not in this
life mind you but only in the hereafter with everyone ELSE going to hell...well, let's just say that the joke is on them as much as it is on the devil
within and without who as someone pointed out is very weak, and insecure and only propped up by a serious case of misunderstanding and plain human
ignorance and stupidity.
It's very very funny but for reasons that none or very few of us ever suspected because the truth is in our own blindspot, contending with the deepest
darkest depths of our own tendency for wickedness and betrayal and what greater betrayal is there than to take the Tree of Life in our midst and
immediately re-translate it back into the tree of the duality of the knowledge of good and evil and of should and should not?
It is a very poor estimation of the human being as child of God which presumes that our default position and tendency is towards evil and we've all
fallen short and and were at one time "outsiders". How loving and forgiving is it then, from the POV of a brother and disciple and friend of Jesus, as
an "insider" to then have little if no concern for everyone ELSE who are going to hell for their unbelief?
Jesus taught us to love and pray for everyone, and in so doing cut straight through the evil in the world to the very heart of God which impinges on
any and every person no matter how "hard-hearted" they may seem.
The Love of God in Jesus Christ as it extends itself to the most unloving, and even brutal in some cases, as the remedy to the problem of sin and evil
in the world - that's our true commission, and our sent calling and the means by which we are engaged in a meaningful transformation of the world as
intended by Jesus himself.
Many if not most of us in the entire domain of "Christendom" have in many ways dropped the ball in regards to precisely how we've presented the
message and person and the character of Jesus to the world.
We can do so much better, and love so much more even to the degree that hell has no meaning and we find ourselves at the end of the Bible as the Bride
of Christ offering, freely, the living water of the eternal evolutionary flow of life as it is and was meant to be enjoyed.
The exclusive and exclusionary doctrine, while it thinks it preserves the worth and value of the free gift of Grace, drains that value away by
tampering with the "free" part.
It's just a fact of life that the true life that sets us free in eternity if a gift extended to us by God so that we might end up in partnership with
God with we his people and He our God. It's the way it had to be, because most if not all people are total idiots, even to the degree that they think
they know the truth but were blind.
P.S. I'm still moved and delighted by the testimonies offered in this thread.
edit on 27-8-2013 by NewAgeMan because: (no reason given)