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racasan
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Oh sure no problem
who couldn’t believe a story about a Jewish wizard that makes a magic garden and puts a man made out of mud and a woman made out of ribs and a magic apple tree in it and even though he is all knowing total fails to spot the talking snake who convinces the rib woman to eat a magic apple and so the Jewish wizard has to have himself nailed to some wood 2000 years later so he can get himself to forgive himself for whatever rule it was he feels was broken in the first place
What’s not to believe?
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racasan
reply to post by undo
Oh sure no problem
who couldn’t believe a story about a Jewish wizard that makes a magic garden and puts a man made out of mud and a woman made out of ribs and a magic apple tree in it and even though he is all knowing total fails to spot the talking snake who convinces the rib woman to eat a magic apple and so the Jewish wizard has to have himself nailed to some wood 2000 years later so he can get himself to forgive himself for whatever rule it was he feels was broken in the first place
What’s not to believe?
Wow, you really never have studied what the bible really says have you? You seem to be stuck on fables. There was no rib but a curve which alludes to DNA double helix, there was no apple and since they used fig leaves, it's more likely they were near a fig tree which makes since as there are the good figs and bad figs spiritually speaking, there was no snake, but a Nachash which is a shining one. So, since you are error about all those things, then maybe you are in error about the work of salvation Yeshua performed on your behalf. A thank you would do nicely, but I doubt we will hear one anytime soon.
Have you ever wondered that the hatred you feel and exhibit towards Yeshua is all from social programming and ignorant "Christians" who have really upset you? I bet you work with hypocrites everyday and yet you wont' call them out or damn their thoughts and traditions as long as they aren't Christians. Your hatred is well programmed, and certainly was not what God meant for your life. You really are loved more than you could ever know.
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well the word nachash is serpent. it does mean, shining one. since it was talking, that means a shining one, not a snake, was talking to eve. see how easy that was? it's callled translation error with a smidgen of metaphor tossed inedit on 8-10-2013 by undo because: (no reason given)
racasan
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well the word nachash is serpent. it does mean, shining one. since it was talking, that means a shining one, not a snake, was talking to eve. see how easy that was? it's callled translation error with a smidgen of metaphor tossed inedit on 8-10-2013 by undo because: (no reason given)
oh ok, so lets take another look
A talking snake >or< this shiny mustache person snuck in the all know Jewish wizards garden (without the all know Jewish wizard knowing about it) and got the woman made out of ribs eat the magic apple which meant the Jewish wizard had to impregnate himself into some bronze age teenager so he could be nailed to some wood so he could get himself to forgive himself for the apple scrumping thing
Riiiight, I have to be honest that doesn’t really didn’t help with plausibility thing
Now the Sumerian word for "rib" is ti (pronounced "tee"). The goddess created for the healing of Enki's rib, therefore was called in Sumerian Nin-ti, "the lady of the rib." But the very same Sumerian word ti also means "to make live." The name Nin-ti may thus mean "the lady who makes live," as well as "the lady of the rib." In Sumerian literature, therefore, "the lady of the rib" came to be identified with "the lady who makes live" through what might be termed a play on words. (Kramer, Mythologies 103)
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racasan
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well the word nachash is serpent. it does mean, shining one. since it was talking, that means a shining one, not a snake, was talking to eve. see how easy that was? it's callled translation error with a smidgen of metaphor tossed inedit on 8-10-2013 by undo because: (no reason given)
oh ok, so lets take another look
A talking snake >or< this shiny mustache person snuck in the all know Jewish wizards garden (without the all know Jewish wizard knowing about it) and got the woman made out of ribs eat the magic apple which meant the Jewish wizard had to impregnate himself into some bronze age teenager so he could be nailed to some wood so he could get himself to forgive himself for the apple scrumping thing
Riiiight, I have to be honest that doesn’t really didn’t help with plausibility thing
actually, the wizard wasn't jewish as jew is the description of a person from a single tribe out of 12 tribes. that is, the tribe of judah, which didn't come along until there was an israel, which didn't come along until there was a jacob, and jacob didn't come along tlil there was an isaac, and none of them came along til after noah. eve was referred to in sumerian texts as lady of the rib. observe:
Now the Sumerian word for "rib" is ti (pronounced "tee"). The goddess created for the healing of Enki's rib, therefore was called in Sumerian Nin-ti, "the lady of the rib." But the very same Sumerian word ti also means "to make live." The name Nin-ti may thus mean "the lady who makes live," as well as "the lady of the rib." In Sumerian literature, therefore, "the lady of the rib" came to be identified with "the lady who makes live" through what might be termed a play on words. (Kramer, Mythologies 103)
you are familar with samuel noah kramer, yes?
the lady who makes live, is referred to in biblical texts as "the mother of all living"
He enrolled at Dropsie College of Philadelphia for Hebrew and Cognate Learning, and became passionately interested in Egyptology
racasan
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his books are available on line - thanks you may have given me my first reading material for my new ebook reader
racasan
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i don't think i can
i have found:
Sumerian Mythology By Samuel Noah Kramer
and
the Sumerians By Samuel Noah Kramer
your 'Myths of Enki: The Crafty God' is still under copy write and the only version I can see available is a hard back copy on amazon for about £450 - that's about $700