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Originally posted by ItDepends
Thanks again for your reply......HOWEVER one of your opening comments bewilders me...."....the crimes people commit aren't committed because they are bad people, they are just misunderstood....."
I'm sorry, dismembering a little baby, cutting the head off of an adversary, raping an innocent teenagre, killing a young boy out for a jog, just because the killers were bored......DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE BAD PEOPLE???
No my friend, these people are indeed BAD, and if you believe GOD created us....then what a mess!!! I'm sorry, but the travesties, the atrocities just to human life alone make good people cry.....these killers are BAD, not misunderstood. AND I for one, am tired of making excuses for them.
How can GOD prove he is GOD??? There are hundreds of ways.....look into the sky....let the World see...like nothing before....He created it, HE can DO Anything....There's nothing he can do that can't be done....This is HIS Creation...IF HE EXISTS, then HE COULD MAKE HIMSELF KNOWN,
The fear people have is to let go. (not speaking for everyone or even myself) but people have lost faith....its a day to day survival. I've been to services, mass, gatherings....people are praying for HIS guidance....HIS words have faded, HE IS NOT HERE!!!
We can discuss all we want, quote scriptures, say we don't understand.....Well WE DO understand....HE simply is NOT HERE, and there is no proof that he ever was. And as I have said over and over, and no free rides or excuses, NO ONE with the power to change things, to change the damage, suffering and painfully ugliness against human life would ever let it continue to happen.....NOT without some indication, some real hope. IF GOD EXISTS, HOW COULD HE ALLOW YOUNG CHILDREN TO DIE IN SECOND GRADE????? OR A MOM AND DAD BE SHOT DEAD IN A MOVIE THEATRE???? IF GOD EXISTS, WHERE IS HE????
I am not afraid to ask, and even challenge HIM, he created me, well now I'm asking, show it to me now..If you really exist GOD SHOW IT TO US KNOW!!!!
all got to go, turn back to school..
all people can't feel, I follow nature's rule..
I don't know if you realise..
before you get your respect, you gotta be humanised..
Originally posted by tachyonmind
...in truth, all religion is right, and they all agree on the fundamentals..
Religion might preach grace, but another thing they practice
Tend to ridicule God's people, they did it to John The Baptist
They can't fix their problems, and so they just mask it
Not realizing religion's like spraying perfume on a casket
See the problem with religion, is it never gets to the core
It's just behavior modification, like a long list of chores
Like let's dress up the outside make it look nice and neat
But it's funny that's what they use to do to mummies while
the corpse rots underneath
Originally posted by Murgatroid
reply to post by tachyonmind
Originally posted by tachyonmind
...in truth, all religion is right, and they all agree on the fundamentals..
The problem with religion is it never gets to the core...
It's that simple.
There are only TWO religious systems in the world.
Satan controls one.
The other owes its allegiance only to Jesus.
Jesus OPPOSED religion which is why religious people hated Him.
Jesus and religion are on totally opposite spectrum's
Religion might preach grace, but another thing they practice
Tend to ridicule God's people, they did it to John The Baptist
They can't fix their problems, and so they just mask it
Not realizing religion's like spraying perfume on a casket
See the problem with religion, is it never gets to the core
It's just behavior modification, like a long list of chores
Like let's dress up the outside make it look nice and neat
But it's funny that's what they use to do to mummies while
the corpse rots underneath
But it's funny that's what they use to do to mummies while
the corpse rots underneath
Originally posted by On the level
reply to post by ItDepends
Sorry was drunk when I posted, what I meant was that we are either too big or what I personally think, too small to feature in the grand scale of things. Have a look at some of the stars in the universe, ours is like someone holding a lighter up at the bottom of a garden in cosmic terms. As for where is god, well thats the question isnt it, I think we will never know until we leave this life
Originally posted by ntech
reply to post by ItDepends
I have a simple explanation for that. From the bible. Put simply God left the world to it''s own devices. But he was supposed to return at a future date. The parables of Matthew 24 and Matthew 25 come to mind.
That being said however those parables are referring to something out of the Old Testament. And I figured it out. What happened was this. The first century Jews triggered the curse of Malachi by killing John the Baptist. Who according to Jesus Christ was Elijah the prophet. And one of the co-Messiahs of the first century Apocalypse according to Malachi. It was supposed to have been a 3 or 4 man job according to Malachi.
And the details are this. The curse of Malachi is a top level Leviticus 26 curse. And the book of Hosea in verse 6-2 says the curse was supposed to last 2000 years.
So sometime in the 2020's the curse is over.
Originally posted by ItDepends
Originally posted by ntech
reply to post by ItDepends
I have a simple explanation for that. From the bible. Put simply God left the world to it''s own devices. But he was supposed to return at a future date. The parables of Matthew 24 and Matthew 25 come to mind.
That being said however those parables are referring to something out of the Old Testament. And I figured it out. What happened was this. The first century Jews triggered the curse of Malachi by killing John the Baptist. Who according to Jesus Christ was Elijah the prophet. And one of the co-Messiahs of the first century Apocalypse according to Malachi. It was supposed to have been a 3 or 4 man job according to Malachi.
And the details are this. The curse of Malachi is a top level Leviticus 26 curse. And the book of Hosea in verse 6-2 says the curse was supposed to last 2000 years.
So sometime in the 2020's the curse is over.
I do have to admit ntech that although I have read the Bible, I do have difficulties putting things together and especially how they relate to our modern times..in some cases.
I commend you on your succinct and your researched and prediction. I really cannot debate what you have discovered. My only comment/observation is that since Christ/lord/Son of God was crucified more than 2,000 years ago, and with all of the atrocities that mankind has done unto itself (i.e. WW's, Hate, exclusion, abortions, starvation....etc.) I just find it inconceivable, that if a God exists, how could he just allow for this to continue as it does everyday?
I am not here to deny, or put down or ridicule any belief. I am just a person on this planet who happened to have had the benefit to see some unbelievable, magnificent advancements in our history, BUT, also during my time, have witnessed some of the most despicable, horrifying, disgusting acts against, innocence, and humanity..and am beyond belief, that if there is a GOD, A Supreme Being, or some intelligence out there in the universe that is so advanced that they could help us.....Where Are They?? I don't think i am the only person who asks this...not in this day and age. We are no longer shackled to old beliefs but ask questions because WE know now, that many things we were taught, just simply are no longer valid and/or not true.
Peace!!
Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by ItDepends
But i just have a fancy to ask some big questions.......IS THERE A GOD??? A SUPREME CREATOR?? DOES A SUPERIOR CIVILIZATION exist somewhere out in the cosmos??? Earth is supposedly 4.5 Billion years old we are told, they Universe about 14.5 Billion years old. So WHERE IS EVERYBODY.....WHERE IS GOD????
The opposite of what you ask is to presume are we the only ones? And that by definition is somewhat the same as saying (the world is still flat), don't you think?
The full electromagnetic spectrum that we know of is thousands of miles long compared to the one inch of it we see called the color spectrum. Radio signals are all around us, microwaves, sub sonic sound, none of which we can hear, feel or touch.
How is it that we can say there is nothing more based on our limited senses? Our instruments see deep into the cosmos today showing us the reality of billions of galaxies filled with trillions of stars and a gazillion worlds. Are we the only ones?
Don't go medieval on me and say yes.
So you want to meet spirits. Have you ever had an experience where something proved to you beyond a shadow of a doubt that there was something more than what we can see hear and feel? Not a single one?
Are you sure?
To my mind that is hard for me to comprehend for I have had such experiences. I am not lying to you and I am not crazy, on drugs or playing for fun.
So tell me. Not one single thing has ever happened to you that was out of sorts with you definition of real?
Thanks for your replies on here, I eagerly await your response to me about this one thing I am asking you...
...Plain and simple no smoke and mirrors, no string theory, or multi-universes...just the very simple questions....if they exist, plain and simple...WHERE ARE THEY???
.WHERE ARE THEY???
Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by ItDepends
.WHERE ARE THEY???
There are these stories written a long time ago about men who wanted the same answers you do. So they gave up everything and went into the woods, built a fire and sat there until either they died... or were "visited".
I actually never had to do that, if they are around places I visit they reveal themselves to me for no particular reason that I can fathom. I wish I could say there was some meaning or purpose to that, but I can't. However these events were real, sometimes witnessed by others, too. Not many times and not always with someone else, but there it is.
Maybe if you are that serious about it you could test them for yourself. I hear it takes about 40 days to either starve or get what you seek. Bring sackcloth. If you put it all on the line that is a true request and that won't be denied. Either way you'll get to see the other side...
(DISCLAIMER) I have no idea if this works or not, just read about it in a book. I know there is a spirit world, how else are you going to contact it but thru near / death?
Originally posted by tachyonmind
...Plain and simple no smoke and mirrors, no string theory, or multi-universes...just the very simple questions....if they exist, plain and simple...WHERE ARE THEY???
Hi.edit on 29-8-2013 by tachyonmind because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by ItDepends
.WHERE ARE THEY???
There are these stories written a long time ago about men who wanted the same answers you do. So they gave up everything and went into the woods, built a fire and sat there until either they died... or were "visited".
I actually never had to do that, if they are around places I visit they reveal themselves to me for no particular reason that I can fathom. I wish I could say there was some meaning or purpose to that, but I can't. However these events were real, sometimes witnessed by others, too. Not many times and not always with someone else, but there it is.
Maybe if you are that serious about it you could test them for yourself. I hear it takes about 40 days to either starve or get what you seek. Bring sackcloth. If you put it all on the line that is a true request and that won't be denied. Either way you'll get to see the other side...
(DISCLAIMER) I have no idea if this works or not, just read about it in a book. I know there is a spirit world, how else are you going to contact it but thru near / death?
Originally posted by Willtell
reply to post by ItDepends
IMO God didn’t create humans directly.
Creation is an existential reality of a state or dimension of consciousness, in-fact what the scriptures, Bible and Quran, call the forbidden tree--this Soulor system. It is the fallen dimension where evil and suffering can exist and where humans have been entrapped inside—since the fall of man.
“God” or other perfect beings, such as Angels, exist in a perfect dimensions where corruption that exists in this dimension doesn’t and can’t exist.
There will soon be a perfection of this dimension and that will occur on not the return of God per se but the return of the perfection of the Soulor system or fallen dimension of this forbidden tree ( state of consciousness).
Originally posted by tachyonmind
i really like this reply =)
my personal suggestion would be to get a few friends, who you honestly love and trust, take plenty of food and hydration, and return to nature in some forest or meadow, light a fire so you know where you are, and take a journey together with no expectations of what might happen..
Originally posted by tachyonmind
i'm an "advanced intelligence from out there", and i'm trying to help, i mostly get ridiculed and ignored though, why should that be? the thing is humans who don't see the absolute truth hiding behind what they have been taught, will never be unshackled..
Originally posted by ItDepends
Originally posted by tachyonmind
i'm an "advanced intelligence from out there", and i'm trying to help, i mostly get ridiculed and ignored though, why should that be? the thing is humans who don't see the absolute truth hiding behind what they have been taught, will never be unshackled..
If that is true....then something you are doing is not working, correct?
If you are advanced, more intelligent....then, why would you not have some sizable following or at least some thoughtful, intelligent people....who would not ridicule you or ignore you????
If you truly are the truth...then, trust me...people are looking so desperately for it!! You are not succeeding. You need to ask yourself why? Why? would you not have a following if you are so advanced, intelligent, representing the truth? I am just asking some questions? I am not doubting your belief, but if it is not working......then what???? Surely not everyone would reject you? Where are you? What have you done to help? How have you improved things? Not just for you....but for the larger good??? If God exists, or an "advanced intelligence from out there" is here, well where are you??? Umm, we need some help, like about 1,000 years ago.....