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posted on Jul, 18 2011 @ 09:47 PM
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'-Lus' is a noun modifier and has nothing to do with the root word of anything. It indicates a small version of something.

It's not a modifier, it represents the root, others are modifiers, not this one. LUS represents EL, LUS=HE.



The suffix -lus is added to a noun to form a diminutive of that noun.

To form a representation of the root, the meaning of the root.

The diminutive is the root meaning, to form the meaning of the noun(root)



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posted on Jul, 18 2011 @ 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by pepsi78
It's not a modifier, it represents the root, others are modifiers, not this one.


Right, even though it says it indicates a smaller version of the modified noun?




The suffix -lus is added to a noun to form a diminutive of that noun.

To form a representation of the root, the meaning of the root.

The diminutive is the root meaning, to form the meaning of the noun(root)


Here is the entire entry:


Suffix-lus m. (feminine -la, neuter -lum); first/second declension

1.Used to form a diminutive of a noun, indicating small size or youth.
[edit] Usage notesThe suffix -lus is added to a noun to form a diminutive of that noun.

Examples:
porculus (“little pig”) < porcus (“pig”)


Pay attention to the bolded parts. Notice where it says 'small size or youth'? It forms a word that indicates a younger/smaller version of the noun it modified. Notice where ti has 'porculus' (piglet)? Do you get it? This is not rocket science.



posted on Jul, 18 2011 @ 09:59 PM
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Used to form a diminutive of a noun, indicating small size or youth.
Used to form the meaning of the root, what is so hard to understand.

diminutive is meaning of the root, the noun being the root.



Pay attention to the bolded parts. Notice where it says 'small size or youth'? It forms a word that indicates a younger/smaller version of the noun it modified. Notice where ti has 'porculus' (piglet)? Do you get it? This is not rocket science.


No it does not modify it, it's your opinion. Small size or youth refers to the beggining of the word, The young is the start.

EL-LUS Begining and end, young the start and old the suffix the end part of the word.




www.archive.org...
VI. -lEKO- AS A HYPOCORISTIC SUFFIX.

On the other hand apprecia-
tion of delicacy and endearment for children and young animals
are so common that these hypocoristic shades may easily attach
themselves to any expression referring to their small size or youth.


Ataching to the young part or the youth of the word , is the root, the surffix ataching to the root.
It ataches to represent the root word.

hades may easily attach themselves to any expression referring to their small size or youth.


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posted on Jul, 18 2011 @ 10:06 PM
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Originally posted by pepsi78

Used to form a diminutive of a noun, indicating small size or youth.
Used to form the meaning of the root, what is so hard to understand.

diminutive is meaning of the root, the noun being the root.


How can 'youth' be construed as 'meaning of the root'? Why do they include the word 'piglet'? They are showing you how to change the word 'porcus' (pig) into the younger version of the older animal. All this really does it show that you never studied Latin. This is something that is learned fairly early on.


No it does not modify it, it's your opinion. Small size or youth refers to the beggining of the word, The young is the start.


No, it is not my opinion, it is what the suffix does. A suffix modifies a word. It does not shorten it to some original version. Are you insane? You really just made a gigantic ass out of yourself by insisting that the suffix '-lus' somehow reverts the word back to a more primative state. You are so delusional that you can not even stop to read what is right infront of your eyes. Stop acting like a child.



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posted on Jul, 18 2011 @ 10:16 PM
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How can 'youth' be construed as 'meaning of the root'? Why do they include the word 'piglet'? They are showing you how to change the word 'porcus' (pig) into the younger version of the older animal. All this really does it show that you never studied Latin. This is something that is learned fairly early on.


Examples can be provided


www.blueletterbible.org...
The word translated "demon" comes from the Greek word daimon, or the diminutive form daimonion, The root meaning of the Greek word daimon is "knowing" or "intelligence." This may have the idea that their intelligence is above humans.

Daimon is DAIMONION the root word is daimon folowed by NION the addition. NION just makes refrence to daimon. Daimon or DAIMONION is the same thing


No it does not modify it, it's your opinion. Small size or youth refers to the beggining of the word, The young is the start.




No, it is not my opinion, it is what the suffix does. A suffix modifies a word. It does not shorten it to some original version. Are you insane? You really just made a gigantic ass out of yourself by insisting that the suffix '-lus' somehow reverts the word back to a more primative state. You are so delusional that you can not even stop to read what is right infront of your eyes. Stop acting like a child.

Not LUS it specifies clear, it is made to represent the root word.




The suffix -lus is added to a noun to form a diminutive of that noun.

It is added to form the meaning of the root.



porculus (“little pig”) < porcus (“pig”)

As seen here it is. Person as in man, what did I say, ? and out of man comes the R, the WO the FE.
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posted on Jul, 18 2011 @ 10:20 PM
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Originally posted by pepsi78
Examples can be provided
Daimon is DAIMONION the root word is daimon folowed by NION the addition. NION just makes refrence to daimon. Daimon or DAIMONION is the same thing


Yeah, wow. I see how the suffix made it shorter. I also see how it refered to it as a younger demon.


No it does not modify it, it's your opinion. Small size or youth refers to the beggining of the word, The young is the start.


No, it is fact. Why do the include the pig example if it is incorrect? 'Porcus' means 'pig', 'porculus' means 'piglet', not the original version of the word 'pig'. If you knew how moronic your statements were you would not even open your mouth further.


The suffix -lus is added to a noun to form a diminutive of that noun.

It is added to form the meaning of the root.

Make sure you include this part:


...indicating small size or youth.


You can not use part of an explanation and omit others, that is pure unadulterated intellectual dishonesty.



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posted on Jul, 18 2011 @ 10:25 PM
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porculus (“little pig”) < porcus (“pig”)


This would make EL a person since porcus is a pig.


A noun is the name of a person, place, thing, or idea. Whatever exists, we assume, can be named, and that name is a noun


The suffix LUS is made to represent the root word of EL a person, EL can't be something else it's a person.

LUS is just a spoil word, get over it, to make things more interesting, make them young, not change their gender.
At best what it would mean is little boy.

You can imagine if the noun represents a person, EL would be a man.
The noun can only be the root word EL.



The suffix -lus is added to a noun to form a diminutive of that noun.


The noun making EL a person, a man.



A noun is the name of a person, place, thing, or idea. Whatever exists, we assume, can be named, and that name is a noun


The best you can do is a little boy, as for gender it's suffix "LA" to change it into a female.
What ellus would mean is the younger EL. A young man.

Finaly we settled this, EL= a man. Ellus is a younger EL, a young man.
You see if you would not made all this noise about it you would of won.

I just guided by how I feel about EL how I knew EL, you stated that it's not and I agreed with you initialy, but because you insisted on your remarks I decided to look it up, because you made a big deal out of it.
I also knew that EL was he in other based Latin langueges.





You can not use part of an explanation and omit others, that is pure unadulterated intellectual dishonesty.

What intelectual dishonesty ? were playing with the cards on the table.
What you state would mean hiding something, like a source, not giving the whole thing.
Interpretation of the material is not dishonesty, far better if it makes a point.
The only thing I was wrong about and I admit it, is ELLUS being a full grown man.
Since Ellus is a young representation of the older EL.



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posted on Jul, 19 2011 @ 07:03 AM
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Originally posted by pepsi78
This would make EL a person since porcus is a pig.

The suffix LUS is made to represent the root word of EL a person, EL can't be something else it's a person.


Oh really? Then what does 'porcellus' mean? By your logic it means 'little pig man'. Or how about 'porcellam'? Or 'porcellis'? What do those words mean? You claim to understand Latin so this should be easy.


LUS is just a spoil word, get over it, to make things more interesting, make them young, not change their gender.
At best what it would mean is little boy.

You can imagine if the noun represents a person, EL would be a man.
The noun can only be the root word EL.


Once you answer the questions you will see how comepletely wrong your assumption is on the matter.


Finaly we settled this, EL= a man. Ellus is a younger EL, a young man.
You see if you would not made all this noise about it you would of won.


Right. Since the letters 'el' also appear in the feminine and neuter genitives. Why is that?


I just guided by how I feel about EL how I knew EL, you stated that it's not and I agreed with you initialy...


You should have stuck with you initial course. Now you have made yourself look even more foolish.


...but because you insisted on your remarks I decided to look it up, because you made a big deal out of it.
I also knew that EL was he in other based Latin langueges.


Yes, and your own source shows that in the Romance languages it is still used as a suffix, not a word.


What intelectual dishonesty ? were playing with the cards on the table.
What you state would mean hiding something, like a source, not giving the whole thing.
Interpretation of the material is not dishonesty, far better if it makes a point.
The only thing I was wrong about and I admit it, is ELLUS being a full grown man.
Since Ellus is a young representation of the older EL.


You have lied repeatedly by saying you understood Latin. It is obvious by your responses that you have no idea what you are talking about. This is intellectual dishonesty. A first year Latin student would have known what the suffix '-ellus' or '-lus' means but it is quite clear that you were never a student as evidence by your repeated fumblings with the language. You lied and got caught.




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posted on Jul, 19 2011 @ 07:46 AM
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Oh really? Then what does 'porcellus' mean? By your logic it means 'little pig man'. Or how about 'porcellam'? Or 'porcellis'? What do those words mean? You claim to understand Latin so this should be easy.

It is made to represent a young image of the root word. Representing the root but making it younger.

El=MAN ELLUS=YOUNG MAN


By your logic it means 'little pig man'

EL is not a pig, it's a porcus. Pigs got other representations in latin as a he and a she. They are not called he and she.



Once you answer the questions you will see how comepletely wrong your assumption is on the matter.

I'm not wrong


Right. Since the letters 'el' also appear in the feminine and neuter genitives. Why is that?

As ELLA, not LUS, LUS is a represention of the root word but with a younger accent.



You should have stuck with you initial course. Now you have made yourself look even more foolish.

No , I made the correction, it is a representation of the root but with a younger tone.
It is the only correction I made, the rest remains the same.



The suffix -lus is added to a noun to form a diminutive of that noun.



1.Used to form a diminutive of a noun, indicating small size or youth.

The (suffix) Lus is addedto the (noun) root to form a (diminutive) represenation of the root in a younger tone.

The noun is the root word, Lus is made to represent the root word in a diminuative form indication small size or youth. Since were talking about persons it's youth, if we were talking about objects it would be small.




VI. -lEKO- AS A HYPOCORISTIC SUFFIX.
On the other hand apprecia-
tion of delicacy and endearment for children and young animals
are so common that these hypocoristic shades may easily attach
themselves to any expression referring to their small size or youth.


Making the root sound young, it's what it is.

You were right, little pig, and pig. Little EL and EL. Making ELLUS a young man, and EL a man.
EL=MAN, a he.

LA suffix does sommething else to the root word, each suffix has a different task, representation.
From EL-LA, the FE-MALE.

LUS is described as masculine because of it's root representation. Lus describing the root but in a younger tone.

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posted on Jul, 19 2011 @ 08:08 AM
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Originally posted by pepsi78
It is made to represent a young image of the root word. Representing the root but making it younger.

El=MAN ELLUS=YOUNG MAN


You did not answer the questions; what do 'porcellus', 'porcellam' and 'porcellis' mean? And be specific.


I'm not wrong


We will see after you answer the above questions.


As ELLA, not LUS, LUS is a represention of the root word but with a younger accent.


Sure. Answer the questions.


The noun is the root word, Lus is made to represent the root word in a diminuative form indication small size or youth. Since were talking about persons it's youth, if we were talking about objecst it would be small.

You were right, little pig, and pig. Little EL and EL.
EL=MAN, a he.


I know I am right. I do not need a person who is comepletely ignorant of Latin to tell me when I am correct on that subject. Now how do you say 'little man/boy' in Latin?


LA suffix does sommething else to the root word, each suffix has a different task, representation.
From EL-LA, the FE-MALE.


The suffix is not 'la' and 'ella' is only one version of the suffix. Stop pretending you know Latin, it is emabarassing.



posted on Jul, 19 2011 @ 08:16 AM
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You did not answer the questions; what do 'porcellus', 'porcellam' and 'porcellis' mean? And be specific.

I did answer,
EL is not a pig.
EL is a person. EL is not a description of a pig/
You got the answer posted by you


porculus (“little pig”) < porcus (“pig”)

In this case it is a representation of a pig ? from a small pig to a pig because the root word is pig.
In case of EL is a representation of EL as a young EL. We know that Ellus is masculine.
LUS is just the description of the root making it younger.

The surffix LUS all it does is makes the root younger, whatever the root is.
In case of ELLUS we know it's masculine, because EL it's self is masculine.



I know I am right. I do not need a person who is comepletely ignorant of Latin to tell me when I am correct on that subject. Now how do you say 'little man/boy' in Latin?

It's what the suffix does, gives the root a young representation, but only the LUS suffix does this, the others do something else.



The suffix is not 'la' and 'ella' is only one version of the suffix. Stop pretending you know Latin, it is emabarassing.

The suffix is LA, like the other LUS.


Suffix

-la

1. nominative feminine singular of -lus
2. nominative neuter plural of -lus
3. accusative neuter plural of -lus
4. vocative feminine singular of -lus
5. vocative neuter plural of -lus

-lā

1. ablative feminine singular of -lus


Have you not figured it out, the root word is masculine.
Since LUS describes the root word but in a younger tone then that is that.

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posted on Jul, 19 2011 @ 08:55 AM
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To elucidate this.
www.chlt.org...


Diminutive Adjectives are usually confined to one gender that of the primitive, and are used as Diminutive Nouns.

We know that El is the diminuative noun, it is confined to only one gender(MALE)


Then:


They are formed by means of the suffixes
-ulus (-a, -um), -olus (after a vowel), -culus, -ellus, -illus

Then comes the suffix, el-lus, LUS representing the diminuative noun EL A HE.
Translated into A young HE.

I know, the source is invalid, snap....you don't like being wrong.

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posted on Jul, 19 2011 @ 09:17 AM
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Originally posted by pepsi78
We know that El is the diminuative noun, it is confined to only one gender(MALE)


Oh really?

You did not answer the questions; what do 'porcellus', 'porcellam' and 'porcellis' mean? Be specific.

Your inabilty to answer these questions proves that you have no idea what you are talking about. Answer all three words. What do they mean?


I know, the source is invalid, snap....


No, your understanding of it is invalid. From your own source:


libellus


Using your Ficto-Latin understanding that would mean, 'little man book'. Yup, that makes total sense in Ficto-Latin Land.

You should never have pretended to understand Latin.






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posted on Jul, 19 2011 @ 09:48 AM
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You did not answer the questions; what do 'porcellus', 'porcellam' and 'porcellis' mean? Be specific.

Yes I did, El is not a pig, the root in this case would be porcel from "porcus", porcel is a he pig.
Simply put LUS makes the pig younger, as LUS makes EL younger. Porcellus is a baby he pig.









You should never have pretended to understand Latin.

Flaming while loosing, I understand you, it's not easy loosing.after all the insulting things you have said.
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posted on Jul, 19 2011 @ 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by pepsi78
Yes I did...


No, you did not. You avoided the specifics.

What does 'porcellam' mean?

What does 'porcellis' mean?

Answer the questions.


porcel, porcel is a he pig.


'Porcel' is not how you say 'pig' in Latin. Maybe in Ficto-Latin.


Flaming while loosing, I understand you, it's not easy loosing.after all the insulting things you have said.


The only one who is loosing is the one not answering questions my little Latin imposter. Prove to everyone you know more than Ficto-Latin. Answer the questions.




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posted on Jul, 19 2011 @ 09:57 AM
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Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by pepsi78
Yes I did...


No, you did not. You avoided the specifics.

What does 'porcellam' mean?

What does 'porcellis' mean?

Answer the questions.



porcel, porcel is a he pig.

I have answered

Porcellus is a baby he pig, from porcel the root word, porcel is a he pig. Just like EL is a he.
it's porcel-lus. porcel+lus, he pig+lus making it porcellus a baby he pig.
Porcel comes from porcus.

LUS making the subject younger, the subject is already a he, the root is a he pig. just like the root EL is a HE- MAN.

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posted on Jul, 19 2011 @ 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by pepsi78
I have answered


No you did not. What are the defintions of these two words:

Porcellam?

Porcellis?


Porcellus is a baby he pig...


Now what are the other two words?

ANSWER THE QUESTIONS AND STOP STONEWALLING.





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posted on Jul, 19 2011 @ 10:10 AM
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Were interesting about porcellus, not the others.
It can clearly see that porcel the root word is a HE just like EL. and that the LUS only makes them younger.
I think I have answered you very very fair.



posted on Jul, 19 2011 @ 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by pepsi78
Were interesting about porcellus, not the others.


They are all related, but you would know that if you understood more than Ficto-Latin.

Let me help you:

Porcellam=(fill in the blank)

Porcellis=(fill in the blank)

What are the answers?


I think I have answered you very very fair.


No, you have avoided answering the questions. Answer them.



posted on Jul, 19 2011 @ 10:18 AM
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Your question has nothing to do with LUS, you are deviating from the subject.
From EL ELA, to other suffixes not used on EL.

Porcelus is relevant because of the lus suffix, making porcel a he pig, just like the EL.

Let me explain to you so you can understand.
Porc"EL" He pork. Porc"EL"LUS baby he pig.

HE=EL.
LUS=Young. LUS only adds a age suffix and represents the original meaning of the root word, it modifies only the age and represents the root gender.

It's not my fault I can uderstand Latin. It's because the language I speak.

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