reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
enlightened you do a disservice to your own moniker on this board.
ill do this one last time because explaining things to you feels like smacking a puppy for wetting the carpet...its pointless because it just doesnt
know any better....though by your age you should.
do you know what context is? do you know how important it is that things be taken in context? can you imagine living your life out of context? it
would be a disaster wouldnt it?
well thats what happens when you cherry pick a verse from this part of the bible and then cherry pick another and see if you can make them
fight.....thats all your doing....taking things out of context and creating a pretext....and it leads only to foolishness and destruction.
those two verses, taken out of context as they are, are both very clearly dealing with the same thing....Gods mercy. IT doesnt change.
Principles dont change....but methodologies can. Can you imagine that? Do you think its possible to hold fast to a principle....but change methods or
tactics? Do you think its possible to try a new approach? Well if you answered no then youre worse off than i thought.....but if you DO think its
possible to have an unchanging principle but methods that DO change then maybe theres hope for you.
ill do this one last time because youre baiting me and as much as i enjoy tasting some fine bait on ocassion.....after a while i crave a real
so heres the breakdown. God employed certain methods in the old testament.....they were brutal to be sure. There are reasons for this that are
beyond the scope of this discussion...but it has a lot to do with the fact the israelites were almost retarded by the time they got out of
egypt.....not the brightest and most sophisticated bunch.......years of slavery will often do that to people....it reduces their finer
by the time the new testament came around it became obvious that new methods were needed in dealing with people. Does God change? why most certainly
he DOES change in his methods...not his principles. YOu can read ALL about this in Romans where paul talks about the law and his frustration with
it....if you cared to of course. But what it really amounts to is the law is still there......its still wrong to steal kill, lie, commit adultery and
so on....but thank god we are no longer stoned to death for sleeping around, at least by Gods decree. You see, theres this little thing called
karma....and its not an invention of some sun staring yogi mystics...its actually a pretty old concept and can be found in the bible "cast your bread
upon the waters, for in many days you will find it again" Ecclesiastes 11:1 and other places 'for what you sow that shall ye also reap' etc... in
other words its readilly apparent that many of our mistakes bring the judgement of natural consequences upon us making it unnecessary for God to
punish us the way he often punished the israelites in the old testament.......NOT to mention that israel was a direct theocracy (form of government)
and God was their king and direct ruler, making them subject to direct communication, blessing, and judgement.....whereas later when they asked/begged
samuel for a king they became a monarchy of a kind....and later became nothing at all after the diaspora.
The point of all this is that Gods principles...much like the principles of physics which are inextricably connected with the nature of God, CANNOT
ever change.....but like water can take several forms....like light can be both a wave and a particle....and other metaphors.....Gods strategy....his
methods....CAN and often WILL change and adapt to the situation.
if humans can do this...would you expect less of an omnipotent God? or is it easier and more convenient to put your idea of god in a box where hes
easy to manage?
By the way....it doesnt matter one iota what i say does it? if youre philosophical tenants are so whimsical and so easily affected that what I SAY
could influence them....then you have real problems. It doesnt matter what i say about the bible or God.....what matters is what YOU discover by a
careful, honest, and completely personal study of the material to your ultimate very personal satisfaction. Ive said it before and ill say it
again....the only person that can convince you is you.....and if you already are......then bravo.......i personally prefer to have nothing to do with
that part.......but pointing out where youre woefully illogical and off base.....ill gladly take that on.