reply to post by Thorneblood
Ah, but you are missing one sad point about our oddly well equipped for bloodlust youth, thorneblood.
A surprising percentage of them cannot pass the ASVAB, and of those who can now, a growing percentage of them are not healthy enough anyway.
Trivia as I fuzzily recall it: the number of military applicant failures is inversely correlate to the red-state leanings of their region...
I think back in WWII it did not require anything to be a soldier except that you weren't hacking up your lungs from asthma or TB, which was mostly
because you could give it to others or make noise when quiet was needed. It's different now. There are actually standards. And a constantly
growing-fewer number of people are able to meet them.
So many of your Mortal Kombat couch potatoes would not make it into the military.
We might not be smart, but they are by far the most gun crazy and needlessly violent generation to date. If our government works it right a lot
of these kids could be molded into deadly machines whose only purpose in life is to fight and die for America's interests.
Gee I bet nobody thought of that. ;-)
I have a lot of respect for soldiers. (I have them in several of my developing fiction novels.) I nearly joined the Marine Corps 30 years ago, and
likely would have except back then women couldn't do jack but be a few title-variants on nurse, waittress, secretary. I wanted to blow # up and shoot
bad guys. (I know. I was such a feminine little thing.) Ah well, I'm sure that worked out for the best... that doesn't mean I'm real fond of the
way they're used, sigh.
In the end American youth might just need something like this to get them back on track and focused on America again, instead of
Generally military service -- um, not counting being killed, mutilated, or horrifically traumatized for life (...) -- greatly improves the majority of
people I've known with it, and utterly destroys a small minority of them.
I do agree that a focused discipline and training, almost no matter WHAT context it came in, would probably be excellent for a couple generations
desperately in need. It's kinda too bad the military is the only option for that -- I think of versions of the CCC country-wide for example, as an
alternative of a sort, would be great: incredibly physical hard work, discipline and boarding similar to military (but work more aligned with
forestry, construction, and helping with all forms of natural disaster/threat).
I have to admit though, the last 20 years of my life have made me gradually more and more cynical and hopeless about the entire topic of military and
America's don't-call-us-Imperialists-we're-here-to-save-your-children wars though.
I don't feel that anybody we would recognize is truly running the politics on this planet.
I don't feel that our culture supports nearly what it should in terms of working with injured and disabled vets to the degree that's as much a
horror as getting killed is and I don't feel we have the right to ask that of people if we can't put a little more effort and care into dealing with
that outcome. (Well. We never have the right to ask that of people. But you know what I mean.)
I don't feel there is any difference in the growing more evil results of almost anybody in political office no matter which side they're on.
And I don't feel it is just or fair to take courageous, patriotic men and women in uniform and get them traumatized, horrifically injured or killed
over something that is not the value their precious life and sacrifice deserves.
Different approach to this topic: We are not just fighting Iraq / Afghanistan, you know. We are fighting about half of planet earth through the
'doorway' of Iraq and much of that doorway comes through Syria. The reason we are so bogged down is in part because it's a way, way, way bigger war
than the talking heads on TV tell people.
(A degree of this was true for Vietnam, as well, I think.)
Moving into Syria would mostly be publicly recognizing that we already are fighting a war there, we are just not quite 'there' so much as 'two
Also, of course, Iran's leader is even more insane than ours -- well at this point that may be debatable -- and with China and NK leaders being close
behind, I'm guessing our military is trying to map out all the strategic base areas they can.
Most things we do are not about what is going on. They are about what is expected to be going on in the future.
I once tracked the news in a project, which is when I quit watching it. It is predictive, not reportive. A finding that was so disturbing when it
really sank in I wished I didn't know.
The rhetoric about how we need to save anybody from anything is ridiculous tho. That's never why we do anything military and everyone knows it. Big