Satellites glimpse ultra-powerful “black hole” whirlpools in Atlantic

Beyond creepy. Black holes are horrifying enough, and now to think they exist on earth?

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Beyond creepy. Black holes are horrifying enough, and now to think they exist on earth?

No worries. They don't.

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Interesting! Here's a thought, for any that might be involved in the research, or planning to be, and looking for a way to study these - make up some pressure-resistant, waterproof GPS devices, with depth sensing, and toss them in. See where they go, how deep, etc.

Logically, there would seem to need to be a hole someplace, for all this water to be going into. That said, since the oceans clearly aren't emptying, the water has to be coming UP someplace, too, right? Like a fountain, that is circulating it back through?

I want credit, if someone proves this, for the suggestion.

reply to post by LadyGreenEyes

Logically, there would seem to need to be a hole someplace, for all this water to be going into.

The water is going in circles. Those circles drift across the ocean.
No holes.

Phage
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Logically, there would seem to need to be a hole someplace, for all this water to be going into.

The water is going in circles. Those circles drift across the ocean.
No holes.

makes magnetic vortex waves emanating from the earth seem more plausible dont you think? same would be responsible for tornadoes and hurricanes as well.

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makes magnetic vortex waves emanating from the earth seem more plausible dont you think?

No. Basic hydrodynamics accounts for the phenomenon quite well. The interface between fluids moving with different vectors produces eddies.

same would be responsible for tornadoes and hurricanes as well.

No. Tornadoes and hurricanes are both the result of convective activity (though on vastly different scales).

No magnetic vortex waves, whatever the hell that's supposed to mean.

Phage
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makes magnetic vortex waves emanating from the earth seem more plausible dont you think?

No. Basic hydrodynamics accounts for the phenomenon quite well. The interface between fluids moving with different vectors produces eddies.

same would be responsible for tornadoes and hurricanes as well.

No. Tornadoes and hurricanes are both the result of convective activity (though on vastly different scales).

No magnetic vortex waves, whatever the hell that's supposed to mean.

which would take us to the topic of what makes the wind blow. i believe those eddies and currents are all driven by magnetic waves. they possess all the same attributes of motion of magnetic waves. this is because magnetic waves are moving the particles. (gravitational waves)

takes us back to double slit experiments and the particle-wave issue. perhaps the photon of light is moving along a wave which gives the impression of a particle behaving like a wave.

like a ruler.. it is straight.. and placed on a straight track will move straight. but place it on a flowing river and it will move in all sort of seemingly random ways. science will then try to track and describe those motions using physics. just like trying to calculate to perfect accuracy the flux patterns of a wave to be able to predict is astronomical, same goes for a particle driven by a wave.

a hurricane may have a slightly different principle. in that 2 fronts passing in opposite directions in close proximity form a circular cluster of particles(air, water, dust, debris). it's tied in with pressure systems (pressure claimed to be responsible for air flow). but what really causes and creates the pressure is magnetic(gravitational) fields.

a tornado/whirlpool can be formed from vortex shaped magnetic wave.

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but what really causes and creates the pressure is magnetic(gravitational) fields.

No. What causes the pressure differentials is heat. Warm air is less dense than cold air and therefore exerts less atmospheric pressure. Because it is less dense it also tends to rise. When warm rises air from elswhere is drawn in to replace it.

That is what makes the wind blow.

a tornado/whirlpool can be formed from vortex shaped magnetic wave.

No. Air is not affected by magnetism, nor is water (except to a very, very slight degree.

Oh, magentism has nothing to do with gravity.

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well holistically, this is how i see it. magnetism/electro-magnetism is a form of gravitational force(gravity). an invisible force which produces pressure and the flow of that pressure within time/space. when i use magnetism, maybe i should make clear i mean magnetism and all it's attributes that contribute to its presence and orientation. as to build an electromagnet one requires a copper coil, an iron rod and electricity/current.

then there is the sound/frequency attribute of magnetism that gives magnetically charged particles a waveform to travel on.

gravity, as the theory goes is generated by the earth's iron core. which is a representation of a 3-dimensional coil. but also generates a frequency associated with the earth's overall well-being in operation and ability to generate gravity which clings our atmosphere around it.

just like tornadoes on the sun. currents and eddies are an attribute of magnet flow. like water and air flows. if gravity can cling humans to the earth and plastic etc, it must be a form of magnetic force. and our polarities are oriented to attract. like north pole joining south pole. in theory, we could fly/levitate by changing our polarity to repel the orientation of gravity.

not saying that all the elements you mentioned arent present in the occurrence. but the presence of magnetism being generated at some source that is completely natural, and is the key ingredient in what we see, should not be ignored.

experiments in acoustic levitation show quite clearly that certain frequencies are able to levitate even non-metalic objects. if nature can do this on her own. why cant she do the same to create spiral formations. also note the similarities between regular storms and particle storms when our magnetosphere is heavily bombarded. vicious clouds and lightning can appear. showing evidence of at least a form of electro-magnetic energy being a major contributor to storms. all the elements are present including electricity/static, particles in the atmosphere which become charged and quite possibly, a frequency which orients that charge along a waveform. causing the lightning to strike down at the earth.

everything ties in. when we consider magnetism, we must consider the broad topic of 'attraction' in all areas where it is observed. including magnets, electromagnets and gravity, and their child attributes, charge and element to be charged which creates a field among of group of charged particles. a field which is formless in it's motion along the path of it's orientation or grid. never in a perfectly straight line. and certainly not limited from producing spiral shapes and motions with ordinary matter.

Phage
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Logically, there would seem to need to be a hole someplace, for all this water to be going into.

The water is going in circles. Those circles drift across the ocean.
No holes.

Well, alright then. But what causes the circular motion? I am far from an expert on ocean currents. Very curious about this phenomenon!

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Various things including the Coriolis effect, it depends on the situation. In general it has to do with the way currents interact with other currents.
www.whoi.edu...
www.louisianasportsman.com...

Phage
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Various things including the Coriolis effect, it depends on the situation. In general it has to do with the way currents interact with other currents.
www.whoi.edu...
www.louisianasportsman.com...

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Ah, so it's basically the same sorts of variables that contribute to massive storms. Still, they look very bizarre! Appreciate the link. The kids will love reading about this.