Every time I come home to the US, I'm amazed that the bickering between these so-called political ideologies continues. I shouldn't be, but I am.
Lets forget liberal and conservative, and focus on what people vote for. Democrat or Republican. Both parties can be broken down into sub-factions,
but lets look at them in general. The reason being is if you look at their voting records on issues, and especially if you look at their voting
records while considering what parties the authors of the bills and various amendments being voted on, you will see that regardless of sub-faction
they tend to, as a party, vote as one despite their internal differences.
A good example is the failed assault weapons ban bill earlier this year. If you kept track of who voted for different amendments, riders, pork,
addendum, inclusions, etc., despite what was in those, a democrat would vote down a republican authored part and a republican would vote down a
democrat authored part, regardless of whether or not that section was reasonable, or even worked towards the party's own goals. Both sides made many
reasonable concessions, but almost, not completely, but almost unanimously voted down the oppositions inclusions. It was mind boggling to watch. It
was the first time I followed congress vote by vote like that and it both made me feel better and worse at the same time about our republic's
democratic process. Better in that I want the US government to be so mired and hamstrung by conflicting ideas, ideologies, laws, protocol, and
oversight to get as little as done as possible, worse in that I know many people personally who think like these politicians and honestly believe
those politicians to be on their side because they identify with that specific party.
Get it straight, the majority, and I don't just mean 51%, of politicians have atrocious criminal and civil records. The kind of people you vote for
have proven at almost every single turn to not be on your side. As much as you try to be on their side, they are never on yours. They only make
appearances to be on your side so long as you vote for them.
Here's the explanation:
Lets go back to the division of Republican and Democrat ideologies. Both ideologies have held the opposite's position in US history, and it has
switched a few times. Currently however, they completely discredit themselves as a political ideology in the minds of anyone who realizes how
contrary they are with their own ideology. For every "hardline" stance that either of these ideologies takes on a given issue, they take a perfectly
opposite stance on a different but fundamentally identical issue. Both party ideologies fail fundamental logic tests that ought to strip them of
credibility in the eyes of anyone with even the remotest presence of mind.
Keep in mind that not all republicans or democrats believe the following, sure, but their representatives voting records in the halls of government
follow lock step with these outlooks.
Death Penalty and Abortion:
A republican will say it's murder to kill an unborn fetus of a specific age or younger. They don't, in general, believe that the death penalty
is murder and that it doesn't follow the same ethical standards because of the presumption of judgement. Itt is society's collective choice through
the implementation and enforcement of law to remove a dangerous member of society through death.
A democrat will say it's murder to kill a man convicted of certain capital crimes, but it's a woman's individual choice as to whether or not she
keeps or aborts her potential child.
Both ideologies fail here. Both are state sanctioned murder provided that very specific criteria are met. It's similar to self defense with
lethal force. Another instance of legal murder provided that VERY specific criteria are met. From a legal and societal standpoint all three carry
the same ethical and moral weight. All instances are of an individual dying at the hands of another.
This is just one example. I could go on and on. Gay rights, both have contrary ideologies that discredit both sides. Lobbying of government, there
are some juicy ones there. Immigration, there are tons gems that republicans and democrats contradict themselves on. It would make this post an
entirely new thread if I went into those.
Both ideologies seem to have evolved into or are tailor made to be the worst combination of ideas and contradictions I have ever seen in political
In my experience, individual Democrats tend to be more racist than individual Republicans (yes really). and individual Republicans tend to be more
moochers than individual Democrats (yes really).
You guys are fighting the wrong battle. It was never the democrats vs the republicans, it has always been the people vs the government they elected.
This whole backwards schism distracts us from compromise and civility.
edit on 21-8-2013 by Galvatron because: (no reason given)