Illuminati....blamed for everything

Originally posted by Happy1
reply to post by AthiestJesus

 

Wondering who you were replying to?

Are you saying that illumanati don't exist and it's a joke -

Or, illumanati do exist, and OP is making a joke of it?

the "Illuminati" does exist and OP is making a joke of it .

Though I very much doubt they refer to themselves as the illuminati , they probably don't even have a name for themselves as a group since that way they would be easy to locate . But if they do have a name , they are more aware than anyone that "illuminati" is recognised globally so they probably dropped that a while ago .

reply to post by AthiestJesus


OK.

I was a bit brain numb trying to read and understand exactly what the illumanati defenders/deniers were really trying to say in their long-winded, rhetorical opinions - very intellectual they are, you know. - trying to say it's just poor people being jealous of rich people.

Yes, there's a lot to understand about the ones who consider themselves illuminated.

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Yet I've noticed that you are avoiding answering my questions directed at you.... Don't like the spotlight when it's on YOU, eh?

Originally posted by AthiestJesus
This thread is riddled with ignorance .

You`re seriously overlooking every single shred of evidence behind most of the conspiracies surrounding the "illuminati" (which probably isn't even their name) just so you can get a bite out of people with your poor attempt at humour ?

It`s like there`s a whole generation who just do not understand the evidence that has been put before them for the past ten years or so . If you`re still at the stage where everything needs to be spelled out for you then maybe ATS is not a website you should be visiting .

Or mayhap you just don't understand the cycle of human evolution and psychology....

Who and how do YOU "tag" someone under the terms of this mythical group?

Are you really so arrogant to think everyone is so dumb that they can't "see" what you see? Maybe those "dumb" people, in fact, understand the science behind what you see as magick and are unimpressed...

I have analyzed countless claims meant to prove the existence of this alleged group. Analyzed very objectively. However, every single claim I have seen is usually a product of misunderstanding of a concept or limited view of one.

Originally posted by CIAGypsy

Originally posted by AthiestJesus
This thread is riddled with ignorance .

You`re seriously overlooking every single shred of evidence behind most of the conspiracies surrounding the "illuminati" (which probably isn't even their name) just so you can get a bite out of people with your poor attempt at humour ?

It`s like there`s a whole generation who just do not understand the evidence that has been put before them for the past ten years or so . If you`re still at the stage where everything needs to be spelled out for you then maybe ATS is not a website you should be visiting .

Or mayhap you just don't understand the cycle of human evolution and psychology....

Who and how do YOU "tag" someone under the terms of this mythical group?

Are you really so arrogant to think everyone is so dumb that they can't "see" what you see? Maybe those "dumb" people, in fact, understand the science behind what you see as magick and are unimpressed...

I have analyzed countless claims meant to prove the existence of this alleged group. Analyzed very objectively. However, every single claim I have seen is usually a product of misunderstanding of a concept or limited view of one.

Arrogant ? ........ go look up the definition of that word dear , and read through your thread again.

I`m curios , without some kind of shadow government/society controlling the ins and outs ..... how do you believe the world operates as it does today ?

Do you believe we have deliberately fabricated decades of evidence in order to create our own twisted little reality and try to trick you into not trusting the people you accept as being superior to you ? What on earth would a logical mind gain from that ?

I can assure you this is deeper and a lot older than the stupid ass reptile theories etc.

I`m sure you have a perfectly reasonable explanation for the "elite" bloodlines right ? I`d be more than happy to hear it .

We`re talking everything from education to food supply , they control everything , even populations , prove me wrong if you can ..... there`s plenty of evidence in this website alone to prove me right.

reply to post by CIAGypsy


The group you mentioned will not ever say anything (because they know at 13 years how the traitors go away) . The process is to use technology to advance society (to dump out population who doesn't know any about technology, student do not study anything and result is idiotic generation without technology) to suppress all technologycal advance.
One goal is to remove old world order (where people use national flags and idiotic behavior, cattle, behavior to get married at all cost) and go to new order One nation, one behavior, freedom, population control of uncontroled marryge , from 10 kids per family to 2 kids per family and AFTER population control to chip them and present technology.

The planing for group is scenario planning method and they change programs often.

All technology you have (computer, car, airplane, mobile phone) is technology from 1905 year under control of group.

reply to post by AthiestJesus


And here we go to with the bloodlines theory again.... I swear this stuff comes up almost on cue...

Let me tell you something, mon ami.... Bloodlines are meaningless. My family has raised kings. My family has killed kings. My family has been killed by kings. One day several years ago, a common woman came up to me and went on and on about how she was descendent of Charlemagne. Guess what? Given the proclivity of the day, I believe her... But SO WHAT?!?!

Look at William and Kate Middleton. The Royals are supposedly at the top of your silly little theory, yet Kate is of "common blood." Her family earned their wealth through hard work and risk.

It is people like you who are elitist about bloodlines... Not the people you paint into that conspiracy corner.

reply to post by CIAGypsy


Mind Control (all tv series about population control, example: old world order family can't get merry, lose baby, couple can't get together to get baby, love is impossible to get reproduce)
Slavery - economic, sexual, and phyiscal (people do not reproduce when no money)

Pornography (population psy ops program to educate/learn population to do not reproduce)

Global warming (psy ops program to present electric nikola tesla car)
War (people do not reproduce in war timeline)
Prison female/male (do not reproduce in prison)
Gay/lesbian (people do not reproduce from same sex meridge)

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So you have not got a reasonable explanation then ? You should have just said so and saved yourself from typing all that dribble. You obviously have not got a clue what you are talking about , this thread was created simply to make a joke out of decades worth of research , research you clearly do not understand at all .

Originally posted by AthiestJesus
reply to post by CIAGypsy

 

So you have not got a reasonable explanation then ? You should have just said so and saved yourself from typing all that dribble. You obviously have not got a clue what you are talking about , this thread was created simply to make a joke out of decades worth of research , research you clearly do not understand at all .

Nice try at obfuscation and redirection, but I have answered your question. Your "research" is nothing more than half baked pseudo junk that cherry picks "examples" to support your preconceived points and does not support reality as a whole from the perspective of society as a whole OR the very people you choose to trash their reputations.

Why don't you try being more specific about your alleged research and contribute to the thread instead of spouting generalities?

reply to post by B3...


My father used to talk about "zero population growth" back in the late 60's and early 70's. It wasn't so much about controlling what genes were populating the earth but about how much human population the earth's resources could sustain.

Of course, technology changes this factor all the time.

reply to post by CIAGypsy


yesterday I went to pick up a video game for my son and there were two girls working the counter and they were arguing over whether, or not, Rhianna was part of the illuminati. I had an issue with the pre-order and I told the girls I'd be sure and mention their lack of compliance at the next illuminati meeting, expecting them to laugh. Instead they gave me a discount on the purchase.

So, yes, the illuminati is to blame for everything, including gamestop's error in providing my son with a fathead helmet for prepaying for madden 25.

People in a position of privilege will do anything they can to keep living the way they are. Wealth has been passed down for generations. These pockets of wealth will work with each other to help insure that things stay the way they are. You need to broaden your understanding of this "illuminati". While it's foolish to throw that term around vaguely at everything as has become fashion and easy to debunk as far as the borderline comical traits that have been attributed to this "group", as a real, functioning entity out to protect their wealth and power it is almost impossible to think they they wouldn't have some sort of strategy to keep things the way they are, considering the staggering advantages they've had to do so. All it really comes down to is people not wanting to give up their inherent place. Of course the rich help each other out. To what extent is up for your mind to wander over.

reply to post by CIAGypsy


Wrong. Technology invention create spike in population growth (steam machine as example) so there is supress of technology to avoid spikes of population grow. All programs/ideas about population control are welcomed.

Originally posted by CIAGypsy

Originally posted by AthiestJesus
reply to post by CIAGypsy

 

So you have not got a reasonable explanation then ? You should have just said so and saved yourself from typing all that dribble. You obviously have not got a clue what you are talking about , this thread was created simply to make a joke out of decades worth of research , research you clearly do not understand at all .

Nice try at obfuscation and redirection, but I have answered your question. Your "research" is nothing more than half baked pseudo junk that cherry picks "examples" to support your preconceived points and does not support reality as a whole from the perspective of society as a whole OR the very people you choose to trash their reputations.

Why don't you try being more specific about your alleged research and contribute to the thread instead of spouting generalities?

edit on 29-8-2013 by CIAGypsy because: (no reason given)

Quite an accusation considering the fact that you know nothing of my research .

I simply asked you one question , and your response was not an answer .

You want me to be specific about my research ? I was asking you a question to gain an understanding of how much you know about the conspiracies you like to mock . I have no reason at all to unload 10+ years of my own research into this thread , especially when you`re obviously not interested .

" and does not support reality as a whole from the perspective of society as a whole " ...... oh dear

Originally posted by Crakeur
reply to post by CIAGypsy

 

yesterday I went to pick up a video game for my son and there were two girls working the counter and they were arguing over whether, or not, Rhianna was part of the illuminati. I had an issue with the pre-order and I told the girls I'd be sure and mention their lack of compliance at the next illuminati meeting, expecting them to laugh. Instead they gave me a discount on the purchase.

So, yes, the illuminati is to blame for everything, including gamestop's error in providing my son with a fathead helmet for prepaying for madden 25.

I'm sorry but this struck me as really funny on so many levels.

Originally posted by AthiestJesus

Quite an accusation considering the fact that you know nothing of my research .

I simply asked you one question , and your response was not an answer .

You want me to be specific about my research ? I was asking you a question to gain an understanding of how much you know about the conspiracies you like to mock . I have no reason at all to unload 10+ years of my own research into this thread , especially when you`re obviously not interested .

" and does not support reality as a whole from the perspective of society as a whole " ...... oh dear

No more than your presumptions about what I know or don't know.... You want me to pony up answers, then you....likewise....need to provide proof to support your position. Otherwise its nothing but hot air. Numerous times...and in numerous threads....I have provided proof and support for my statements. Yet when you are asked to do the same, your response is that you essentially "don't feel like it...."???

ETA - Yes...I "mock" the fact that this mythical group is blamed for everything under the sun. It is ridiculous and smacks of age-old superstition that keeps people from walking under ladders or being afraid of black cats. I *do* believe there are TRUE conspiracies in the world. This just isn't one of them.

Originally posted by whlrwhlr
People in a position of privilege will do anything they can to keep living the way they are. Wealth has been passed down for generations. These pockets of wealth will work with each other to help insure that things stay the way they are. You need to broaden your understanding of this "illuminati". While it's foolish to throw that term around vaguely at everything as has become fashion and easy to debunk as far as the borderline comical traits that have been attributed to this "group", as a real, functioning entity out to protect their wealth and power it is almost impossible to think they they wouldn't have some sort of strategy to keep things the way they are, considering the staggering advantages they've had to do so. All it really comes down to is people not wanting to give up their inherent place. Of course the rich help each other out. To what extent is up for your mind to wander over.

I have answered this HERE and, to some degree, HERE too

reply to post by CIAGypsy


'twas the purpose.

The concept of the illuminati is laughable to me and having two college aged women debate the membership of a couple of rappers in a group that has, supposedly, been trying to enslave society and take over the world, unsuccessfully I might add, for centuries, is laughable.

Originally posted by Crakeur
reply to post by CIAGypsy

 

'twas the purpose.

The concept of the illuminati is laughable to me and having two college aged women debate the membership of a couple of rappers in a group that has, supposedly, been trying to enslave society and take over the world, unsuccessfully I might add, for centuries, is laughable.

It's humorous to think people could seriously consider celebrities like Rihanna to be part of a group whose purpose is as all-encompassing as CT'ers portray. Do they really believe these dysfunctional individuals are capable of taking over the world when they can't even keep their own laundry out of the tabloids?

Mind boggling....