What if Nazis were still here...

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posted on Aug, 20 2013 @ 07:02 AM
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I think I will point out the obvious, and say that the current Pope in an Argentinian- he is from the same country many of the Nazis went after the war to hideout.

What do I make of this?

Ich weiss nicht.




posted on Aug, 20 2013 @ 09:10 AM
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Yes Nazis are still around. They run Israel and Americas foreign policy not to mention Americas financial system as well as many other agencies here in the states.



posted on Aug, 20 2013 @ 09:16 AM
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They are still here, they work within the US government. Project Paperclip.

*tin foil hat on now*



posted on Aug, 20 2013 @ 09:18 AM
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I have some crumbs for you OP, I didn't read the entire thread my apologies I will get around to finishing looking through later. I did do some keyword searches and didn't find what I was looking for.

So here are links you may need to find a better scope on this.

Paladin Group wiki


The Paladin Group was a far-right organization founded in 1970 in Spain by former SS Colonel Otto Skorzeny. It conceived itself as the military arm of the anti-Communist struggle during the Cold War. Ostensibly a legitimate security consultancy, the group's real purpose was to recruit and operate mercenaries for right-wing regimes worldwide.


Nazi Mercenaries apparently.
Took part in some highly questionable operations globally, coups etc.


The Nouvel Observateur magazine, of 23 September 1974, qualifies the group as a "strange temporary work agency of mercenaries" (étrange agence d’interim-barbouzes); in The Great Heroin Coup (1976), Henrik Krüger calls it a "fascist group" or "neo-fascist group", while Stuart Christie speaks of a "security consultancy group" in Granny Made me an Anarchist. Lobster Magazine describes it as a "small international squad of commandos".


Ok now these guys were directly connected to other "Anti Communist" organizations through the World Anti-Communist League which is now named "World League for Freedom and Democracy".

Don't let the name fool you, it's a global front for Nazism and much more.


It is alleged that in the mid-1980s WACL had become a supplier of arms to anti-communist rebel movements in southern Africa, Central America, Afghanistan and the Far East.[6] During the 1980s, the WACL was particularly active in Latin America, notably by aiding the Contra forces in Nicaragua.[7] During this period, WACL was criticized for the presence in the organization of neo-Nazis, war criminals, and people linked to death squads and assassinations.[8] Other allegations have included reports claim that the World League for Freedom and Democracy is responsible for producing what its opponents call "troops of killers", while ostensibly organizing to provide support for Corazon Aquino from the right-wing in the Philippines[9] and for supporting the Mozambican National Resistance (RENAMO) movement in Mozambique[10].


Check out all of the "members" of the WACL through it's history since WW2.
You have Nicaragua – The Contras, and all sorts of nationalist hardliner type groups.

This group was also connected to the scheme : Unification Church
Sun Myung Moon
Check out these connections they are really eye opening. Do googles on Sun Myung Moon + Occult Illuminati or something like that for more strange stuff surrounding this figure and group.

Now go look into who the USA chapters of this organization have been, it is extremely eye opening to how everyone is being played globally.

It isn't actually about racism it's instead about Fascism/Domination/Control through psychological manipulation.



posted on Aug, 20 2013 @ 09:24 AM
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@ Seasoul Write Jonathan Pollard a note about how the US doesn't bust Israeli spies or their agents, when caught. He's not hard to find. He's still an inmate, last I heard, in a US Federal prison. They pretty much took him off the gate of the Israeli Embassy. It'd be funny if he hadn't done so much damage in the position he reached.


The Israelis wouldn't let him into their embassy and threw him off their property so you can stop with the took him off the gate nonsense. Netanyahu visited Pollard and was overheard saying that when Israel has squeezed all it can out of America it can dry up and blow away. Israel does get a free pass at spying in the US members of AIPAC are constantly getting caught but never prosecuted. As one congressman said we don't do anything because it's Israel.



posted on Aug, 20 2013 @ 09:54 AM
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Gonna copy paste some comments etc I made in another thread since it should still be fairly useful.

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Look into "Project / Operation Sunrise", which went right along with Paperclip (as well as a few others).

Project Sunrise had it's name changed quickly to become the JASON Advisory Group. Look it up, it's quite deeply buried but you will eventually find out this is very likely accurate.

Now, the JASON Advisory Group has a very interesting history, that everyone should know about.
It is run through the MITRE Corporation.

I warn you that looking into Project Sunrise will be difficult.

The Other Side of the Story :
I would like folks to also look into the very illegal revenge group that went out hunting down so called ex-Nazis and basically murdering them in various horrific ways.
Nakam or "The Avengers"

They became exactly what they despised (discrimination and murder), look at this quotation from the source:


On April 14,1946, Nakam painted with diluted arsenic some 3,000 loaves of bread for the 12,000 German POWs from the Langwasser internment camp near Nuremberg (Stalag XIII). The camp was under US authority.[1] 1900 German prisoners of war were poisoned in the US camp, and all got "seriously ill".(Associated Press)[1] According to Harmatz (Nakam leader), 300 to 400 Germans died. He said this "was nothing compared with what we really wanted to do."[2]


Pretty sick stuff actually. Indiscriminate murder based on revenge is quite reprehensible, although I concede many folks can "understand" why and the motivations aren't difficult to discern.

Also look into the TTG, Tilhas Tizig Gesheften.


Tilhas Teezee Gesheften (commonly known by its acronym TTG) was the name of a group of Jewish Brigade members formed immediately following World War II. Under the guise of British military activity, this group engaged in the assassination of Nazis and SS conspirators, facilitated the illegal emigration of Holocaust survivors to Israel, and smuggled weaponry for the Haganah.


Notice this group operated illegally, and it was also directly supported by the British.

The "Haganah was the :

Jewish paramilitary organization in what was then the British Mandate of Palestine from 1920 to 1948, which later became the core of the Israel Defense Forces.


It was the follow up of the earlier " Hashomer which was derived from the earlier Bar - Giora.

And for further reading, here is the Jewish resistance groups wiki page.

Continued Next Post...



posted on Aug, 20 2013 @ 09:56 AM
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For anyone else following along, research these names:

Monsignor Don Giuseppe Bicchierai
Walter Rauff
Karl Wolff
Albert Kesselring
Otto Ambros
Hermann Schmitz



Look up "Operation Rat Line"

And check out this book, which is found at any library in the nation (for the most part), "The Crime and Punishment of IG Farben, which reveals that the top heads of the mega-corporation were not only directly involved with the mass-murder, but were mostly also let off the hook with very little punishment. After their extremely short prison terms (for the few who were convicted), many of them were awarded extremely prestigious medals and honors and reinstated into various high-profile positions.

IG Farben War Crimes Trial

Since IG Farben has been broken up, it still remains one of the most powerful influences in the world today through it's tentacles, of which BASF, Bayer, Agfa, etc are the modern iterations of. This is extreme power and wealth we are talking about here.

Also of interest in tracing the hidden/largely unknown history of WW2:

Krupp
AEG
Thyssen AG
"Fordwerke" - a subsidiary of Ford Motor Co.

Those are just a few crumbs for anyone who would like to learn more.



posted on Aug, 20 2013 @ 09:57 AM
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During the Second World War, Ford Werke employed slave laborers although not required by the Nazi regime.[4] The deployment of slave labor began before the Ford-Werke was separated from the Ford Motor Company in Dearborn, Michigan, while America had not yet entered the War.


Emphasis mine, link
Fordwerke wiki

Also people need to know that Hitler was inspired by and wanted to emulate various aspects of the US Eugenics program into his own variation.

Yes you heard it right, prior to WW2, there were actual sterilization eugenics programs here in the USA.


Eugenics was practiced in the United States many years before eugenics programs in Nazi Germany[4] and actually, U.S. programs provided much of the inspiration for the latter.


Eugenics in the USA


In 1907, Indiana passed the first eugenics-based compulsory sterilization law in the world. Thirty U.S. states would soon follow their lead.[45][46] Although the law was overturned by the Indiana Supreme Court in 1921,[47] the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of a Virginia law allowing for the compulsory sterilization of patients of state mental institutions in 1927.[48]


First compulsory sterilization law in the world? Thirty states followed?
The US Supreme Court UPHELD it as Constitutional????

Say it ain't so! But, it is so.
Hidden history of the USA 101.

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Not to get too far off topic here, but just changing gears a bit, I will post this link to an archives.gov document about how many various Japanese War Criminals Escaped.

It's an interesting topic to dig into, and hopefully it should raise some eyebrows.


The rise of concern about Japanese war crimes in the 1990s reinforced the notion that most Japanese war criminals escaped punishment, either because the U.S. government needed their cooperation against the Soviet Union during the early days of the Cold War, or to appease current Japanese economic and commercial interests. Unfortunately, some Japanese war criminals were not punished.


Emphasis mine.



posted on Aug, 20 2013 @ 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by th3onetruth
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They are still here, they work within the US government. Project Paperclip.

*tin foil hat on now*
Wow they must be awfully old by now way past retirement. In fact probably cant get to work since well they would most likely be dead by now being around 90 or so at the minimum.And project paperclip was a science grab nothing more Russians did the same thing. It would have been a conspiracy if they didnt do this.
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posted on Aug, 20 2013 @ 10:08 AM
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Just as an example that I don't really think there is much legitimate explanation for is this:

Kurt Waldheim


Waldheim was the fourth Secretary-General of the United Nations from 1972 to 1981, and the ninth President of Austria, from 1986 to 1992.



Shortly after the German annexation of Austria in 1938, a 20-year old Waldheim applied for membership in the National Socialist German Students' League (NSDStB), a division of the Nazi Party.[3] Shortly thereafter he became a registered member of the mounted corps of the SA.



While he was running for President in Austria in 1985, his service as an intelligence officer in the Wehrmacht during World War II raised international controversy.


So it didn't raise controversy until 1985? After all was said and done pretty much?

Shouldn't people know about these things? Only scratching the surface...



posted on Aug, 20 2013 @ 10:16 AM
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Buster... Thanks for the summary. You honestly believe I reply to you on something as simple as the time of day without knowing EXACTLY what the facts are about the topic I'm replying? You're among those I know I couldn't get the most MINOR thing by as a pure innocent mistake.


As it happens and the record shows, Pollard was literally AT the Israeli Embassy gate, trying frantically to be allowed IN. The FBI patiently and properly waited...a few feet away. When Israel wouldn't open up for their little agent, he did all he could and turned away. The instant his foot crossed the line, so did he. From free man to life in prison.


One down... MANY left to go. I don't even have a problem with WHAT he shared for specifics, especially given that it was an Ally and they HAD been asking for the material in what sounded like a reasonable official request. No matter... He violated his Oath, his nation and his trust with those he served next to every day. I hope he really suffers mentally, every single day he's inside. I HATE .. *HATE*...Betrayal more than almost anything in life.
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posted on Aug, 20 2013 @ 10:40 AM
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Buster... Thanks for the summary. You honestly believe I reply to you on something as simple as the time of day without knowing EXACTLY what the facts are about the topic I'm replying? You're among those I know I couldn't get the most MINOR thing by as a pure innocent mistake.

Well I am working on my nitpicker achievement.


The funny thing is Pollard is still loyal to Israel even after they threw him under the bus.



posted on Aug, 20 2013 @ 12:07 PM
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It's not a crazy theory unless you're young and just breaking out of institutionalized history lessons. The people that funded and controlled the Nazis continued right on with their agenda after Germany had fallen. The big illusion is that the evils of Nazism - death camps, medical torture and experimentation, surveillance, police state, genocide, etc, were a manifestation of one fruit cake evil guy when in fact it is the mission of the world's elite power brokers. The German military was broken but the brains were kept alive and the agendas continued under different names and different subtle and not so subtle ways. The full operation is almost back in swing though.



posted on Aug, 20 2013 @ 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by buster2010
Yes Nazis are still around. They run Israel and Americas foreign policy not to mention Americas financial system as well as many other agencies here in the states.


Could you elaborate more on how the Nazis are running Israel? I've heard about this before, actually. Did they really become Zionists?



posted on Aug, 20 2013 @ 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by dragonridr

Originally posted by th3onetruth
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They are still here, they work within the US government. Project Paperclip.

*tin foil hat on now*
Wow they must be awfully old by now way past retirement.


It's not the same people, it's the same culture and the same agenda. That can be passed down to children, or even in the form of agendas, books, meetings, philosophies and stuff like that. It's just like how Catholics are still around, or whatever.

Neo-Nazi groups are not really the same thing, they don't have the same kind of sophistication. cultural ties and history. It would be like a neo-Catholic group that met and had a picnic every month and played volleyball or something but didn't know much about Catholicism.
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posted on Aug, 20 2013 @ 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by seasoul
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I don't see any cold-blooded Nazis around today, but I sure as hell see lots of cold-blooded Zionists strategically imposing their will on nations.


I think it might be possible that Nazis became Zionists, that's what I seem to be hearing.



posted on Aug, 20 2013 @ 02:04 PM
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it was obvious when the son of Prescott Bush ran the the CIA and then the country.. helped assassinate Pres Kennedy, runs drugs into the country while fighting a war on drugs ... and then theres his idiot coke head son who became our leader who diverted attention while insiders with israel attacked America giving us the patriot act the next day to sign away our freedoms under the false threat of terror..

not to mention..

Otto Skorzeny claimed that the true identity of George H.W. Bush was “George H. Scherff, Jr., the son of Nikola Tesla’s illegal-immigrant, German-born accountant, George H. Scherff, Sr


keeping Tesla tech out of the peoples hands..

Deathbed confessions, photos support claims that George H. Scherf(f), Jr., was the 41st U.S. president



Prescott bush btw was one of the first to be taken down by the trading with the enemies act at Brown Brothers Harriman.. who no coincident by those of us who know this.. was the company who had the short stock profits on american airlines & united that went unclaimed ... and our corrupt government coud not figure out who placed the trades..



but really the Germans were just the scapegoats of the Russians.. who killed 300 million, 50 of which were christians.. Stain, Trotsky & Lenin were in fact of jewish decent.. so when they slaughtered Germans you cant really blame the Germans for trying to stop it..



then the money here in america was centralized just like russia & made worthless .. again, after all Andrew Jackson did to stop it.. under the Fed reserve act.. and there you go.. lies.. on top of lies.. and make the germans out to be the bad guys..

when in fact the work camps allowed brothels.. paid the prisoners.. had plays.. soccer teams.. money.. religious rights where respected.. but no one cares to think anymore.. do they??



lets just blame the national socialists.. but in reality.. its another group.. who specialize in passing the blame ...



posted on Aug, 20 2013 @ 05:53 PM
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Thanks so much for all of that information, especially the bit about 'the moonies'. When I was about 10 years old my mother's cousin was dating this guy that used to try and freak them (family) out about these people and I always thought he was trying to just scare them. I even looked it up after about 3 years out of curiosity and figured they had nothing at all to do with what he talked about.

He used to talk about sacrifices and all sorts of weird stuff they did, apparently right here in my own city. I'll try to get in touch with this guy because this is fascinating stuff.

Also thanks darkbake for making this thread and everyone who has contributed, hours upon hours of research just sitting here in this thread waiting to be digested.


On a side note. If there is a worldwide collaboration to control the masses, then this must go much further back than the last 100 years. This is something that must have been brewing for at least 200+ years, all that xenophobic history we had in Europe. The constant fear between the great nations, the belief they are getting bigger so we must build bigger... All this was just folly.

Star & Flagged for future reading.


To add:

Just found this webpage on the history Tae Kwon Do and the link to Sun Myung Moon. I mean
man c'mon

Link

Down the rabbit hole I go...
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posted on Aug, 20 2013 @ 08:13 PM
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If Nazis were still here….


We'd all be sporting tiny, bandaid-style moustaches...... yes, even women!



posted on Aug, 20 2013 @ 08:36 PM
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OK, aside from the obvious absurdity of a black president being a secret Nazi agent, the DHS is not some anti-Jewish group. 97% of Homeland Security money goes to protect Jewish interests

Also consider that when some more pages from Hitler advisor Alfred Rosenberg's diary recently came to light, DHS sent an agent to confiscate them.
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