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What if Nazis were still here...

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posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 10:52 PM
reply to post by seasoul

Unfortunately, it was watching videos like this that made me consider there being Nazis.

There could be two things going on with propaganda like this - the Nazis are simultaneously running the show and releasing conspiracy information about Jews that appear to be from an anti-establishment source in order to build up anti-Antisemitism, and that is what really got me thinking.

Or, even more chillingly, the Jews are not being targeted because the Nazis are following their "no Antisemitism" rule too closely.

Or maybe both. By not targeting Jews, it could leave the subject open to conspiracy misinformation campaigns. I already found out that the story of there being no Jews in the World Trade Center attack was false.
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posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 10:56 PM
reply to post by superluminal11

They would appear Zionist, especially if they were trying to hide their existence, that would be the perfect way to do it. No one would suspect Zionists of being Nazis.
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posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 10:57 PM
The Nazis didn't go extinct. They merely swapped flags and went underground.

posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 11:01 PM
reply to post by seasoul

"Hotel California" who drives the Mercedes Benz these days the green party?

posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 11:03 PM
Not only did the Nazis invade what was known as "Allied countries" ( and that includes Russia ), through all the "Paperclip" type of operations, but there was never a peace treaty signed between Germany and the Allies.

And let's not forget the FBI admitting Hitler never committed suicide and that he left Germany...

The Nazis were supported by most of the biggest western industrialists of the time. The Nazis apparent defeat was not to stop those industrialists from believing in the Nazi ideology, especially knowing Hitler simply went into hiding and the rest of the free world was already being infected...

Sorry for the self promotion of thread

posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 11:15 PM
reply to post by darkbake

All ill say is history has a tendency to repeat itself. Different players same game do i believe the 3rd riech or even 4th will be resurrected? Well id probably say no even though there is countries that it runs deep in Austria comes to mind definitely have a lot of fascists there.But more then likely a new organization will arise to repeat the past i just hope its not in my lifetime.

posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 11:39 PM

Originally posted by Cauliflower
reply to post by seasoul

"Hotel California" who drives the Mercedes Benz these days the green party?

I think a more critical question at this point in history is, who's currently behind the wheel of the world's banks that are financing today's wars -- cold-blooded conflicts responsible for slaughtering millions of innocent men, women, and children?

Screw all those who try to impose their will, on others!

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posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 11:49 PM
reply to post by darkbake

My friend, research Project Paperclip, some more.....the nazis have never left us, and in fact, did not lose the war. The geographical layout of the Washington, the Monument Monolith, etc. all will make clear that the Fourth Reich is alive and well, right here, in the land of the "free." I am not at liberty to tell you the details of how they live on, but they absolutely do, and in much more reality than just belief readminstered through passed down belief and eugenically created xenophobia.....

posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 11:51 PM

Originally posted by darkbake
reply to post by superluminal11

They would appear Zionist, especially if they were trying to hide their existence, that would be the perfect way to do it. [color=amber]No one would suspect Zionists of being Nazis.
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aye darkbake ... don't fool yourself.
many who were there, watched the transformations occur in their own neighborhoods.

glad to see you're peeking outside the box

in case you actually believe the Nazi movement in the US began after the war, you should read up on the Bund. This group of dedicated Nazis were well entrenched in the US for more than a decade before the first shots were fired in WWII (which by the way was years before the US got involved)
German-American Bund

we are now, 4 or more generational decendants of these same Bund members ... do you really think their ideals died with them ??

yes my friend, Nazis are everywhere and quite possibly a neighbor near you.
for those who don't know, some of the CIA top operatives were um, Nazis.
and this can be verified here/casefile

When the JIOA formed to investigate the backgrounds and form dossiers on the Nazis, the Nazi Intelligence leader Reinhard Gehlen met with the CIA director Allen Dulles. Dulles and Gehlen hit it off immediatly. Gehlen was a master spy for the Nazis and had infiltrated Russia with his vast Nazi Intelligence network. Dulles promised Gehlen that his Intelligence unit was safe in the CIA.

Apparently, Wev decided to sidestep the problem. Dulles had the scientists dossier's re-written to eliminate incriminating evidence. As promised, Allen Dulles delivered the Nazi Intelligence unit to the CIA, which later opened many umbrella projects stemming from Nazi mad research. (MK-ULTRA / ARTICHOKE, OPERATION MIDNIGHT CLIMAX)

Military Intelligence "cleansed" the files of Nazi references. By 1955, more than 760 German scientists had been granted citizenship in the U.S. and given prominent positions in the American scientific community. Many had been longtime members of the Nazi party and the Gestapo, had conducted experiments on humans at concentration camps, had used slave labor, and had committed other war crimes.

In a 1985 expose in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists Linda Hunt wrote that she had examined more than 130 reports on Project Paperclip subjects--and every one "had been changed to eliminate the security threat classification."
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Who is Gelli and why was he so important ?
now that's a good question.
i'd bet you never dreamed of the correct answer.

read on my friend and don't let the truth slap ya too hard.

Head of a 2400 member secret Masonic Lodge, P2, a neo-fascist organization, in Italy that catered to only the elite, Gelli had high connections in the Vatican, even though he was not a Catholic. P2's membership is totally secret and not even available to its Mother Lodge in England. Gelli was responsible for providing Argentina with the Exocet missile. He was a double agent for the CIA and the KGB. He assisted many former Nazi high officials in their escape from Europe to Central America. He had close ties with the Italian Mafia. Gelli was a close associate of Benito Mussolini. He was also closely affiliated with Roberto Calvi, head of the scandal-ridden Vatican Bank. Calvi was murdered. [color=amber]Gelli's secret lodge consisted of extremely important people, including armed forces commanders, secret service chiefs, head of Italy's financial police, 30 generals, eight admirals, newspaper editors, television and top business executives and key bankers - including Calvi. Licio Gelli and others in P2 were behind the assasination of Pope John Paul I.

The central figure in Europe and South America that linked the CIA, Masonic Lodge, Vatican, ex-Nazis and several South American governments, the Italian government and several international banks was Licio Gelli. He, with Klaus Barbie and Heinrich Rupp, met with Ronald R. Rewald in Uruguay to arrange for the Argentine purchase of the French-made Exocet missile, used in the Falkland Island attack to kill british soldiers.

it was a terrible, tumultuous, yet, tempting invitation that evolved way beyond the original intent.

The U.S. Military rounded up Nazi scientists and brought them to America. [color=amber]It had originally intended merely to debrief them and send them back to Germany. But when it realized the extent of the scientists knowledge and expertise, the War Department decided it would be a waste to send the scientists home.
any questions ?? fire away

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posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 11:58 PM
Jim Marrs wrote an incredible book about this very subject.

It's stranger and more bizarre than you can imagine.

posted on Aug, 20 2013 @ 12:06 AM
reply to post by olaru12

Grandpa Prescott Bush funded the nazi's in WW2.

Look into George soro's history - proud jewish parents turning in jews to the nazi's in austria when georgie was just a boy - he says it changed his life forever - and made him a proud nazi.

hitler and iran - read some history -

The funny thing is that nazi's are still "aryian" - ##Obama## and holder know they will be terminated. in a grisly fashion.

I really need to add that nazi's are huge occultists, also.
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posted on Aug, 20 2013 @ 12:18 AM
reply to post by Happy1

Margaret Sanger - planned parenthood - nazi eugenics.

Why does the US's "first black president" seem so bent on enslaving the black race into poverty and welfare? They all have numbers and cards. Why are they so hell bent on bringing in hispanic folks? Gee, I don't know, to round them up and sacrifice them, just like they did with those "sub-human" jews, retards, and GAY people, in nazi Germany?

Big Pharma - experimenting with drugs and vaccines? Go figure. Especially in latin america and africa - all for the sake of "saving children?"

posted on Aug, 20 2013 @ 01:03 AM
here are some more details you may find of interest.

were you aware that some of these names (from then) appear as top officials in today's government ops ???
(yes, many are direct decendants and some married into the families)

if not, start with the name Oppenheimer and see where that leads you.
if you really want to know how deeply they effect EVERYTHING you touch, smell, absorb, eat, drink or enjoy ... explore DOW Chemical Co. and its origins.

posted on Aug, 20 2013 @ 02:32 AM
I'm in the middle of reading Jim Marrs book. There were many rich and powerful who admired and supported the Nazi's before and during WW II.

The Nazi's created the Muslim Brotherhood to harass the English in the Middle East and N. Africa. The same Muslim Brotherhood of today's news in Egypt.

Thousands of Nazi's were brought to the US thru Paperclip. Alot of them went to NASA. Werner Von Braun, the top scientist at NASA, was an SS Major. More were brought for other projects including intelligence. More escaped South America. Businesses took in Nazi's and effectively hid them in plain sight.

Nazi wealth was invested in controlling interests in multi national companies before and after the end of the war.

So yes they are still here. The original Nazi's may have died by now, but they trained their children, and also found new recruits to take their place. They work behind the scenes and might be the ones behind the new world order.
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posted on Aug, 20 2013 @ 02:43 AM
Read some of the honeycombs threads the nazis are still alive but left dead and bare.

Their only weakness is the weakness within yourself. Their only strength is the stuff you don't know.

You should look into it.

posted on Aug, 20 2013 @ 02:47 AM
More from the casefile/link mentioned by Honor93 on Lecio Gelli

Gelli was well connected with the Vatican from the days of the Rat Line and he worked for American intelligence, as well. Gelli formed the P-2 Masonic Lodge-which did not follow the direction of any Grand Lodge-and it was supplied with a sum of $10 million a month by the CIA. Its membership was a Who's Who in the intelligence, military and Italian community. So prominent was Gelli's influence, that he was even a guest of honor at the 1981 inauguration of President Ronald Reagan. Gelli used blackmail in order to gain prominent members of his P-2 lodge, its membership is estimated at 2400 members, including 300 of the most powerful men in the Western World.. He was a close friend of Pope Paul VI, Juan Peron of Argentina, Libyan Dictator Muammar el-Qaddafi, and many high officials in the Italian and American governments - he is also reported to have had some financial dealings with the George Bush for President campaign.

This rabbit hole keeps getting deeper and more twisted as we go

posted on Aug, 20 2013 @ 03:11 AM

Originally posted by darkbake
According to Google Translate, it is a protection community, whatever that means.

Nazis planned a protection community overseas huh....

Originally posted by darkbake

American intelligence officials created a “safe haven” in the United States for Nazis

Originally posted by darkbake
And the Nazis did make it into the C.I.A.

Kind of sums it up

posted on Aug, 20 2013 @ 03:15 AM
To read about what the CIA got up to in Germany after the war, read 'Gellen, spy of the century' by E H Cookridge, Corgi paperback 0 552 09011 5
Really interesting how the CIA used a German in the German army intelligence section to spy on the east Germans and Russians.

posted on Aug, 20 2013 @ 03:16 AM
Opps spelt Gehlen wrong, its not Gellen.

posted on Aug, 20 2013 @ 03:33 AM
reply to post by darkbake

I found the following books a fascinating read re the possibility of Nazis still being around:

Nazi International: The Nazis' Postwar Plan to Control the Worlds of Science, Finance, Space, and Conflict

Joseph P. Farrell continues his best-selling series of exposés on secret Nazi technology, Nazi survival, and post-war Nazi manipulation of various manufacturing technologies, economies and whole countries. Beginning with pre-War corporate partnerships in the USA, including the Bush family, he moves on to the surrender of Nazi Germany, and evacuation plans of the Germans. He then covers the vast, and still-little-known recreation of Nazi Germany in South America with help of Juan Peron, I.G. Farben and Martin Bormann. Farrell then covers Nazi Germany's Penetration of the Muslim World including Wilhelm Voss and Otto Skorzeny in Gamel Abdul Nasser's Egypt before moving onto the development and control of New Energy Technologies including the Bariloche Fusion Project, Dr. Philo Farnsworth's Plasmator, and the Work of Dr. Nikolai Kozyrev. Finally, Farrell discusses the Nazi desire to control space, and examines their connection with NASA, the esoteric meaning of NASA Mission Patches, plus final chapters on: Alchemy, Esotericism, The SS and the Unified Field Theory Craze; 1943-1945: Strange Events from the end of World War II and other "Postwar Shenanigans."

Roswell and the Reich: The Nazi Connection by Joseph P. Farrell

Farrell presents a very different scenario of what crashed in Roswell, New Mexico in July 1947, and why the U.S. military has continued its cover-up to this day. By means of a meticulous review of the best-known Roswell research from both UFO-ET advocates and skeptics alike, as well as some not-so-well known Roswell research, Farrell presents a fascinating case sure to disturb both ET believer and skeptic alike, namely, that what crashed may have been representative of an independent postwar Nazi power, an extraterritorial Reich monitoring its old enemy, America, and its continuing developments of the very technologies it confiscated from Germany at the end of the war.

Dark Mission: The Secret History of NASA (by Richard C. Hoagland and Mike Bara)

These are all highly speculative! But even taken purely as fiction they make for an interesting and entertaining read. There are however enough creepy and weird facts to make you go hmmm and follow the authors down the rabbit hole.
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