Is the Bible the WORD of God or the WORD of Satan?

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posted on Aug, 24 2013 @ 04:40 PM
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reply to post by EnochWasRight
 


Enoch, why is "YHWH" a tetra-grammaton? How come YHWH is god of the "sabbath"?
Can you multiply the Tetragrammaton by the Sabbath?
Tetragrammaton x Sabbath = ?

Please weigh these words carefully. (One correct answer would be 30 ounces. Why are silver coins minted with 999 purity? Another right response would be "the Hidden Hand"). If you have no idea what I'm speaking of, then you need to stop talking and learn more.




posted on Aug, 25 2013 @ 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by EnochWasRight

Originally posted by Greatest I am

Originally posted by EnochWasRight
reply to post by Solmani
 



You see, Jacob the deceiver is the serpent. Esau is the prototype for Yeshua/Jesus. The name "Esau" means "prepare the work"; it is found in the first three letters of the Hebrew number ten, ten being the number of God. All three characters, the Shin, Wau, and Ayin, are present in the name of the Redeemer, "Yeshua".


Are you sure? God said, "Jacob have I loved and Esau have I hated." It does not sound like what you describe above. Read Jasher 27.


His view may be closer to the truth. It can be argued that God hated Jesus also because he chose to have him sacrificed/murdered when there was no real need to do so as God could have found many more moral ways to forgive us than a barbaric human sacrifice.

Regards
DL


Do you have a quote for that statement?



Yes.

It was God's plan from the beginning to have Adam and Eve eat the forbidden fruit. This can be demonstrated by the fact that the bible says that Jesus "was crucified from the foundations of the Earth," that is to say, God planned to crucify Jesus as atonement for sin before he even created human beings or God damned sin.

1Peter 1:20 0 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.

This indicates that Jesus had no choice.

If God had not intended humans to sin from the beginning, why did he build into the Creation this "solution" for sin? Why create a solution for a problem you do not anticipate?

God knew that the moment he said "don't eat from that tree," the die was cast. The eating was inevitable. Eve was merely following the plan.

This then begs the question.

What kind of God would plan and execute the murder of his own son when there was absolutely no need to?

Only an insane God. That’s who.

The cornerstone of Christianity is human sacrifice, thus showing it‘s immorality.

One of Christianity's highest form of immorality is what they have done to women.
They have denied them equality and subjugated them to men.

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Regards
DL



posted on Aug, 25 2013 @ 01:49 PM
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It was a willing sacrifice. You are here as a slice of the one loaf. It was his decision.



posted on Aug, 25 2013 @ 08:19 PM
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Originally posted by EnochWasRight
reply to post by Greatest I am
 


It was a willing sacrifice. You are here as a slice of the one loaf. It was his decision.


My father who SENT me says it was not a willing sacrifice and if it was it was a needless suicide and thus a sin.

Satan loves it when your ilk promotes barbaric human sacrifice and the idea that you should profit from punishing the innocent instead of the guilty.

Regards
DL



posted on Aug, 26 2013 @ 12:02 AM
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Originally posted by Greatest I am
His view may be closer to the truth. It can be argued that God hated Jesus also because he chose to have him sacrificed/murdered when there was no real need to do so as God could have found many more moral ways to forgive us than a barbaric human sacrifice.

Regards
DL

Unless Jesus really was/is God where Atma and Brahma are one. Then it's an image of God taking on full responsibility while upholding the standard of the twin pillars of Justice and Mercy which is also the tree of life.

You could be WRONG and ignorance, and thus could end up in grace error at the crucial moment..

edit on 26-8-2013 by NewAgeMan because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 26 2013 @ 07:48 AM
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Originally posted by NewAgeMan

Originally posted by Greatest I am
His view may be closer to the truth. It can be argued that God hated Jesus also because he chose to have him sacrificed/murdered when there was no real need to do so as God could have found many more moral ways to forgive us than a barbaric human sacrifice.

Regards
DL

Unless Jesus really was/is God where Atma and Brahma are one. Then it's an image of God taking on full responsibility while upholding the standard of the twin pillars of Justice and Mercy which is also the tree of life.

You could be WRONG and ignorance, and thus could end up in grace error at the crucial moment..

edit on 26-8-2013 by NewAgeMan because: (no reason given)


Yes but logic says that it is those of your ilk who will be in error.

Save your threats for children. It is easy to see that they must have been used on you as a child.

You must have gone to Jesus Camp.

Jesus Camp 1of 9
www.liveleak.com...

Right wing Christian abuse of their children is rampant.

Regards
DL
Regards
DL



posted on Aug, 26 2013 @ 10:40 AM
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The Bible is a dead letter, says Apostle Paul. Investigate 1st Corin 2 for the reason why.



posted on Aug, 26 2013 @ 05:44 PM
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Originally posted by Greatest I am

Originally posted by NewAgeMan

Originally posted by Greatest I am
His view may be closer to the truth. It can be argued that God hated Jesus also because he chose to have him sacrificed/murdered when there was no real need to do so as God could have found many more moral ways to forgive us than a barbaric human sacrifice.

Regards
DL

Unless Jesus really was/is God where Atma and Brahma are one. Then it's an image of God taking on full responsibility while upholding the standard of the twin pillars of Justice and Mercy which is also the tree of life.

You could be WRONG and ignorance, and thus could end up in grace error at the crucial moment..

edit on 26-8-2013 by NewAgeMan because: (no reason given)


Yes but logic says that it is those of your ilk who will be in error.

Save your threats for children. It is easy to see that they must have been used on you as a child.

You must have gone to Jesus Camp.

Jesus Camp 1of 9
www.liveleak.com...

Right wing Christian abuse of their children is rampant.

Regards
DL
Regards
DL

Ah no I was really just asking you to consider another possibility whereby your absolute and unrelenting HATRED and condemnation might, just might be flat out wrong, and then where would you be? The content of our heart and soul matters, and the whole Jesus project had as it's goal, our reconciliation with God as a free gift extended by God to us, communicated in such a way that there could be no mistake, and where then do those mistakes arise from, what place that lurks in the heart of man is responsible for all the confusion?

You for example have turned Jesus' Abba into the devil and are ready. even anxious, to sit in judgement, of HIM as the "Greatest I Am" of all people.. (yikes?!)

Talk about a miscommunication whereby something got lost in translation.

And I don't hate you, but I do hate your hatred of Jesus' understanding and relationship with God as the first and the last, the Alpha and Omega (also Christ).

And let me ask you this - if anyone or any creature hates the God of Jesus, for what was done, who would that be?

You're my brother, not the devil, you see. I'm just trying to be helpful.

We need to be open minded and willing hearted and ready to admit, quickly, if/when we are in error.

If you're wrong, would you ever, even for the life of you, admit it?

Best regards,

NAM

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posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 11:17 AM
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Originally posted by TheBrother
The Bible is a dead letter, says Apostle Paul. Investigate 1st Corin 2 for the reason why.


So a dead author in a dead book should be listened to.

Strange notion that.

Regards
DL



posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by NewAgeMan

Originally posted by Greatest I am

Originally posted by NewAgeMan

Originally posted by Greatest I am
His view may be closer to the truth. It can be argued that God hated Jesus also because he chose to have him sacrificed/murdered when there was no real need to do so as God could have found many more moral ways to forgive us than a barbaric human sacrifice.

Regards
DL

Unless Jesus really was/is God where Atma and Brahma are one. Then it's an image of God taking on full responsibility while upholding the standard of the twin pillars of Justice and Mercy which is also the tree of life.

You could be WRONG and ignorance, and thus could end up in grace error at the crucial moment..

edit on 26-8-2013 by NewAgeMan because: (no reason given)


Yes but logic says that it is those of your ilk who will be in error.

Save your threats for children. It is easy to see that they must have been used on you as a child.

You must have gone to Jesus Camp.

Jesus Camp 1of 9
www.liveleak.com...

Right wing Christian abuse of their children is rampant.

Regards
DL
Regards
DL

Ah no I was really just asking you to consider another possibility whereby your absolute and unrelenting HATRED and condemnation might, just might be flat out wrong, and then where would you be? The content of our heart and soul matters, and the whole Jesus project had as it's goal, our reconciliation with God as a free gift extended by God to us, communicated in such a way that there could be no mistake, and where then do those mistakes arise from, what place that lurks in the heart of man is responsible for all the confusion?

You for example have turned Jesus' Abba into the devil and are ready. even anxious, to sit in judgement, of HIM as the "Greatest I Am" of all people.. (yikes?!)

Talk about a miscommunication whereby something got lost in translation.

And I don't hate you, but I do hate your hatred of Jesus' understanding and relationship with God as the first and the last, the Alpha and Omega (also Christ).

And let me ask you this - if anyone or any creature hates the God of Jesus, for what was done, who would that be?

You're my brother, not the devil, you see. I'm just trying to be helpful.

We need to be open minded and willing hearted and ready to admit, quickly, if/when we are in error.

If you're wrong, would you ever, even for the life of you, admit it?

Best regards,

NAM

edit on 26-8-2013 by NewAgeMan because: (no reason given)


Jesus has nothing but unworkable rhetoric and some outright anti-love policies like his divorce law and forgiveness law.

You have your head up his ass and have not rally looked at the morality of his policies.

Pick your poison and let's get to it.

www.youtube.com...

You cannot defend his reality but can defend his policies. Are you up yp that task?

Regards
DL



posted on Sep, 4 2013 @ 06:36 PM
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posted on Sep, 5 2013 @ 12:42 AM
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Originally posted by Greatest I am

Originally posted by TheBrother
The Bible is a dead letter, says Apostle Paul. Investigate 1st Corin 2 for the reason why.


So a dead author in a dead book should be listened to.
Strange notion that


Not so strange. Forget Paul, he irritates me. Jesus was as a shill USED, was highjacked by powers that be; NEVER would have relegated himself as a human sacrifice. This was an individual (as an Essene beyond basic principles; but the foundation of the freemasonry) as there was not EVER an apalmed blood sacrifice agreement; in fact; trying to change the Hebrew methodology...of lamb becomes God; perhaps the reason Yeshua was never accepted by the Sadducce or Pharasee. Last lament on the T-form (NOT A CROSS)--"Those whom defame me keep my wounds open" was not geared to anyone other than its creator. It was betrayed and knew it. You people that watch techicolor cinemascope "The Passion", "The Last Temptation of Christ", "The Robe:" are just POPCORN EATERS of a system that thrives upon human emotion, those that claim they care for us but FEED UPON HUMAN EMOTION and its division of religions, languange, race and environment. Why? because they are in charge, you are not. Jesus will never manifest again because he feels he was completely betrayed. Satan loves the blood sacrifice BTW and enjoys the fact we continually relish and place it formost. Torture is good? NO?. Jesus KNEW HE WAS BETRAYED and will never return (only within christ conciousness).



posted on Sep, 5 2013 @ 12:52 AM
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Originally posted by TheBrother
The Bible is a dead letter, says Apostle Paul. Investigate 1st Corin 2 for the reason why.


Paul is a bigot and a liar. His reason for being was to take the idea into Greece and form HIS OWN church (as an egomanic) 100s of years later. This man was a manipulator of any charges he could envelope--MONK/PRIEST formation and in the extreme women hatred to separate: NUNS. Paul has no business being annotated scriptwise as far as Christian religion exists other than a wanna be Jesus/God/Pope Diefied CLOWN.
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posted on Sep, 5 2013 @ 02:03 PM
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I guess that this is it then when we are talking of people that never lived.

Regards
DL



posted on Sep, 6 2013 @ 10:37 PM
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Originally posted by Greatest I am
I guess that this is it then when we are talking of people that never lived.

Regards
DL


Have to proove it I suppose; but common sense says, you have the 'Son of God' (proclaimed) that never left a syllable, sonnet, poem, at least a RANT: a scratching with a stylus and ink on papyrus to proclaim himself, his wisdom (he knew 3 languages speaking and writing and not ONE did he communicate THIS IMPORTANT MESSAGE from God). What is this? RIDICULOUS. The tenet comes decades later by those that were not there. Faith is something I do not understand if one were to swallow this senario, as in suspending all disbelief. I love the Easter Bunny, see it hanging from a T-form crucified, liver pierced by Roman Centurians and casting die to take its soft furry skin and dreaming of turning it into a blanket (small? or large?) check Ikea for the right size.
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posted on Sep, 8 2013 @ 03:29 PM
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The Roman's used to crucify people on an x shaped cross.

Christianity stole the shape of their cross from the Egyptian Ankh.

Regards
DL



posted on Sep, 9 2013 @ 07:16 PM
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Greatest I am
The Roman's used to crucify people on an x shaped cross.

Christianity stole the shape of their cross from the Egyptian Ankh.Regards
DL


Well that is interesting and not at all surpising; they could have taken it further and crucified those unfortunates using a large wagon type wheel. In fact could crucify 2 at once, one nailed on each side (better balanced); then roll them down the Roman roads to death; part CARNIVAL ride, part entertainment for the masses and much less bloodshed, one either died of laughter/screaming (lack of breath) or disorientation/dizziness or the occational fall off the cliff (a run-away wheel).
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posted on Sep, 10 2013 @ 12:48 PM
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vethumanbeing

Greatest I am
The Roman's used to crucify people on an x shaped cross.

Christianity stole the shape of their cross from the Egyptian Ankh.Regards
DL


Well that is interesting and not at all surpising; they could have taken it further and crucified those unfortunates using a large wagon type wheel. In fact could crucify 2 at once, one nailed on each side (better balanced); then roll them down the Roman roads to death; part CARNIVAL ride, part entertainment for the masses and much less bloodshed, one either died of laughter/screaming (lack of breath) or disorientation/dizziness or the occational fall off the cliff (a run-away wheel).
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That was reserved for people the Romans respected. Death was quicker.

Regards
DL



posted on Sep, 15 2013 @ 09:47 PM
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Greatest I am

vethumanbeing

Greatest I am
The Roman's used to crucify people on an x shaped cross.

Christianity stole the shape of their cross from the Egyptian Ankh.Regards
DL


Well that is interesting and not at all surpising; they could have taken it further and crucified those unfortunates using a large wagon type wheel. In fact could crucify 2 at once, one nailed on each side (better balanced); then roll them down the Roman roads to death; part CARNIVAL ride, part entertainment for the masses and much less bloodshed, one either died of laughter/screaming (lack of breath) or disorientation/dizziness or the occational fall off the cliff (a run-away wheel).
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That was reserved for people the Romans respected. Death was quicker.

Regards
DL


You mean their wives, brothers and other loved ones perpetrated it..a loose asp in the bedclothes or a dagger to the midsection, or poisened wine..diabolical those Roman rulers/wanabees and the methods they employed.



posted on Sep, 20 2013 @ 09:07 AM
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All learned from Christians most likely.

Regards
DL





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