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Is the Bible the WORD of God or the WORD of Satan?

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posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 02:56 PM
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Is the Bible the WORD of God or the WORD of Satan?

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Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and tortuous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we call it the word of a demon than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind; and, for my part, I sincerely detest it, as I detest everything that is cruel. [Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason]

As to the book called the bible, it is blasphemy to call it the Word of God. It is a book of lies and contradictions and a history of bad times and bad men. [Thomas Paine, writing to Andrew Dean August 15, 1806]

“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
― Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion

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Many intelligent men have condemned the Bible and it’s God as completely immoral. Be they from ancient days or more modern times, the morality of God has been rejected by moral men and legislators of the laws we mostly all live under. Never has biblical laws and commandments been shown desirable for most of us to live under.

Christians tend not to like to discuss the morals taught by the Bible. The fact that Christians do not promote their laws over secular law indicate that they are aware of the immoral nature of their genocidal son murdering God and the draconian laws that Christians would put in place.

Satan is said to be able to deceive the whole world with his God given power and dogma says that he has dominion over the earth. Most believers say that the bible is the word of God even though it shows God in a less than favorable light even when compared to Satan. Even Christians admit this and when they do they fall back on their standard excuse of God being able and justified in doing whatever he likes to us, moral or not, because he owns us. That is a cop out to my way of thinking.

Satan has the power to deceive the whole world.

Is the WORD of God, --- because of the fact that it shows God to be more Satanic-like than God-like, --- really the WORD of Satan and not of God?

Regards
DL

P. S. A quick summery of how Jesus was made into the WORD by men.
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posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 02:59 PM
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Its both actually...

The word of God can be found within the bible if one knows where to look for it...

Genesis to Malachi... is the word of a false God

And don't even get me started on Paul....




posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 03:01 PM
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I would say the bible is the word of man.



posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 03:22 PM
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I thought the practices of the new testament was what Christianity was supposed to be based off of. Christianity is not Judaism, the Old Testament is about the practices of the Jewish people. Jesus did not preach greed or killing, I thought we were supposed to follow his teachings. He didn't follow in the ways of the traditional Jews.

So Christianity got hijacked by the greedy and power hungry in the Christian community and it became something that is not what Jesus taught. I see no problem, correct Christianity and it will be a very good religion. There are a lot of good Christians out there that follow what Jesus was trying to show.



posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 03:22 PM
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Is the Bible the WORD of God or the WORD of Satan?

A good chunk of it is the WORD of HUMANS.



posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by Akragon
And don't even get me started on Paul....

I'll poke the bear. What about Paul!
Tell us .. please ....



posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 03:27 PM
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I keep having a hard time with this...What Jesus said and supposedly did was nothing like the Old Testament. And it reminds me a lot of the Matrix...How can you spread the word of what the "real world" is like if everyone does not want to hear it or will fight and die to defend it even if it is completely wrong?

Why do Christians hold so dearly to the Old Testament? What if Jesus was trying to say my Father is not the same father as his compatriots and that is why he was persecuted and assassinated!
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posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by Akragon
And don't even get me started on Paul....

I'll poke the bear. What about Paul!
Tell us .. please ....


Poke the Kitty...


Thought I said don't get me started...


I don't like his work... I have no need for anything he taught... and most of his actual writing within the bible is rhetoric... He contradicts Jesus on numerous occasions... And straight up lied about his status as "equal to God"...

He didn't know Jesus... Didn't meet Jesus... and taught none of his lessons even though he apparently hung around with direct followers of the man...

Most sects of Christianity are based around Paul's writing and barely touch on the gospels... And I've even talked with many Christians, here and in my daily life who will even go so far as to attempt to counter Jesus with Paul in debates... which is just wrong

Just my opinion of course, but I think Paul is a fraud... a man who wanted a following and used the name of Jesus to get exactly what he wanted...

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posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by bhaal
I would say the bible is the word of man.


This may be the most wise words in the forum. The Bible is man's words to describe God in their vision and understanding during that time period. In other words, it is man's interpretation of God. That is one of the reasons why you see a god who tells his own people to go to war with other folks--a clear factor of duality, which is part of the Mind of Man. The Christian Churches and some people see the Bible as the "Word of God" is because it is their version of absolute "truth." They believe it is infallible, and anything outside of it is from the devil. It is their current mental picture of what God is--their interpretation and understanding. People have all sorts of mental pictures. Some may have a picture of the "perfect" family man. Others may have a picture of the "imperfect" mother figure. Even some others may have a picture of who God is. And everybody's picture looks different even if you belong to the same Christian or Jewish denomination.

I keep saying over and over to get outside of the little mental image in your mind about certain things, especially about who God really is. The True God can not fit in your mental box. Go outside of the box and look within yourself. Self-realize that you are a piece of God's mind. Therefore, you are the Kingdom of Heaven. Just think about that for a while and that there is no such thing as the "Word of God" on Earth. It is only the "Word of God" if you look within yourself, and there you will find true revelation.

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posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 03:35 PM
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A good chunk of it is the WORD of HUMANS.
I feel a correction is needed here




Think about that for a while...



posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 03:39 PM
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Please note the New Testament and Jesus' teachings and action, along with passages from Pslams.

So long as you don't attack Christ, but you do and that's the problem.

Forgive me but I have a hard time stomaching your name and the continuous judgements you wish to make on God based on your own interpretation of the OT.

If there's a devil or future devil, he's the one who wishes to rise up as the Greatest I Am and cast down the God of love.

Good luck with that.



posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 03:40 PM
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Right-click. Saved!

@OP:
It is neither.

It is often said, "God is not the author of confusion." Maybe not. But the men who wrote the bible were.

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posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by Akragon
Thought I said don't get me started...

But I LIKE to read your posts.
And in this case .. I totally agree with you.



posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 03:44 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by Akragon
Thought I said don't get me started...

But I LIKE to read your posts.
And in this case .. I totally agree with you.


Oh...

Well in that case... feel free to poke the kitty...




posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 03:48 PM
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Religion is crap.

There are however some very decent people who are religious but I would argue that they were decent to begin with.



posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 05:46 PM
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Perhaps it is the believer, and which duality they choose to feed - that determines whether a belief is of god/good or evil/devil.

It is the person who determines it - not the book itself.

Cirque



posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 06:46 PM
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it's the summation of all the religions one religion conquered to keep the use of magic in the hands of a chosen few



posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 06:53 PM
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Light reveals what it hits. How did the seed of man survive the fall of the Nephilim? The Lord. How did we rid ourselves of the fallen Nephilim? The Lord. Who introduced us to the Redeemer? The Lord. Who is invariable and symmetric like the strong nuclear force? The Lord. You are condemning God for being invariable. Apart from the invariant symmetry of the strong nuclear force, we would not have a reality to live in. Asking God to bend to the weak force of the electron is not the answer to living in unity. The only reason we have matter at all is directly because of the Strong Nuclear force of the Proton and Neutron. The Neutron is the center of the atom and the strength of the nucleus. Why am I answering your post with physics? What do you expect we should refer to by the light of the creator of the universe?

Aleph Bet is Alphabet (Father in Hebrew). This is the letters of creation. Aleph Bet means strong house. The Son of God is the Word (Written with DNA). Son in Hebrew is Bet Nun (House of Seed). Mother is Aleph Mem (Strength of the Water). The waters of the formless void are Hydrogen. Again, the Bible outlines this as an image created for us as a refinery of sentience. We have an adversary to overcome and the only reason we know this, is from the trial setup for our benefit ahead of our timeline. You are saying the adversary is the one giving us the answers. Not so.

Hydrogen has one proton and one electron in balance. All other elements have a Neutron and the Neutron makes the Strong House (Strong Nuclear Force). The Proton and Neutron adhere to invariant symmetry and are mirrors of the Father and Son in union. Mother is Mater or Matter (Matrix). This is equivalent to the five platonic solids in geometry. Rotate them any direction and they are the same. God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. It is difficult for you to understand this as a mortal, but the electron does not adhere to the Strong force and neither do you by inherent nature. This is the point. To become the strong house, you must follow the law of symmetry with God in the refinery. Alchemy demands dissolution, which is where you are now. The way you manage this conscious dissolution is vital to your final salvation. Choose the path you want in life, but God will not change. You MUST be the one that heels to his authority.

To become the strong force yourself, there is only one path. You will become what you love and as I stated in the beginning, light reveals what it hits. For every Esau in this world, there is a Jacob. For every Abel, there is a Cain. For every Satan, there is a Christ. You become what you love. The Bible is a mirror you see yourself by and light can only reveal what it hits. If this were not so, you would see a wash of light between your eyes and the source of that light. Instead, light reveals what it reflects. In this case, you are simply mirroring yourself in this thread.

You have the choice to change your image. Either cling to the weak force or bend to the will of the strong. In Genesis 3, the heel that crushes the head is similar to the word we use for heel in dog training. Heeling is bending to authority. In nautical terms, it is the angel of heel of the mast on the ship. When the ship turns, the mast bends to one side. It heels. In physics, the weak force enters the field of the strong force and bends to the polarity of the positive. Nothing can escape this strong force. Heel is also the slice of crust on either side of the loaf.

1 Corinthians 10

16 Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ? 17 Because there is one loaf, we, who are many, are one body, for we all share the one loaf.

In the end, you are either the one bearing the cup and a slice of that loaf, or you are the one baking the bread. In this case, you become brunt toast. Read Genesis 41 for more on the baker and cup bearer. Both serve the purpose of the King, but only the cup bearer survives.

Because you do not understand is not a reason to say that the Bible is from Satan. Far from this, the Bible outlines all of physics and demonstrates why invariant symmetry is necessary. Like it or not, your world would not be here otherwise. As I asked before: who shows us this? The Lord. Why do we not hear from the Lord in the NT? He is not mentioned even once. The Father is mentioned instead. Christ is called the Lord. Why? Because God was raising the SON all along. The LORD is the one that overcomes and is the Shepherd of the sheep. He is the one loaf. We have the opportunity to become that loaf as the Church (Body of Christ). We can only overcome by the work of the one that already has.

The entire Bible is a parable of Satan and Christ. The Son of God is being raised and we are that image of God. We are the house of seed. When you condemn the Lord of the OT, you are condemning yourself. IT IS YOU! The NT Lord is Christ, the one that overcomes. By not overcoming yourself, you are remaining the weak force. You choose to be Cain, Esau, Ishmael and so on. All the twins are showing us the two paths we can take in life. Which are you choosing?

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posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 07:18 PM
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Do you need a simplified version? Who was the Son of God involved here in the waters of life? Adam. Do you come from Adam? Yes. When Cain killed Abel, which one do you suppose was the reflection of Satan?

1 John 3

11 For this is the message you heard from the beginning: We should love one another. 12 Do not be like Cain, who belonged to the evil one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? Because his own actions were evil and his brother’s were righteous.

Here, we have the FIRST split of duality for the SON OF GOD. Do you get the point here? You are condemning the Lord of the OT as Satan. In truth, you are part of the Son of God being raised in the wilderness. You are the house of the seed (Bet Nun) just like the Son (Bet Nun) of God. God raises the Son and YOU are raised by the Son as your Shepherd. He walks this path of life with us the entire way. By condemning the Lord in the OT, you are condemning yourself. Why? You are part of that one loaf choosing to be Cain instead of Abel.

We each choose this path in life. Condemning the OT is condemning yourself. Jesus stated that you must be born again. In other words, you have been here before. The veil over your consciousness (Temple) keeps you from knowing your past. Why? Just as God will forget your past (Amnesty), you must forget it as well and move on to the new man you become. You are tasked with the same objective as the Son--to overcome Cain; Esau; Ishmael; Satan. Why did Cain hold on to Esau's heel? Why did Esau trade the birthright?

AMN is our word for AMEN. It means True in Hebrew (Aleph Mem Nun). Strength of the Water and Seed.

AMN in Greek is Lamb
Amni in Greek is Water of life
Amnio is bowl catching the sacrifice of the Lamb
Amnion is the sac of the mother's womb (Mater / Matrix)
Amniotic fluid is the water of the womb.
Amnesia is when you forget
Amnesty is when God forgets
dAMNation is when God does not forget.

Amnesty or Damnation depends on you. WHO DO YOU BECOME?

If you divorce the Bible from God, what are you left with as a source for this information? Are you sure you know the answer? You can say TAO. I can show you they are the same message. You can say Buddha. I can show you they are the SAME. All of it originates with the Letters of Hebrew and Greek (Phoenician). The Bible is our translation of the letters in parable.
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posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 07:25 PM
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Exodus 15:3
The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

Exodus 17:13
And Joshua discomfited Amalek and his people with the edge of the sword.
17:14
And the LORD said unto Moses, Write this for a memorial in a book, and rehearse it in the ears of Joshua: for I will utterly put out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven.

23:27
I will send my fear before thee, and will destroy all the people to whom thou shalt come, and I will make all thine enemies turn their backs unto thee.

Exodus 32:27
And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour.
32:28

Numbers 23-24:
Behold, the people shall rise up as a great lion, and lift up himself as a young lion: he shall not lie down until he eat of the prey, and drink the blood of the slain.

cannibalism, mass murder, rosary's yes christianity sounds charming too bad i'm a gentile
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