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Hanslune
FreeMason
The Mediterranean dried up during the last ice age, at least I considered this a settled fact, but perhaps it is debated? At the least, the Mediterranean's connection to the Ocean and the Black Sea were severed, and the major rivers which flowed into it were largely dry except the Nile. So the water there would have been in the process of drying up.
I think you are mistaking the Messinian period for the Ice age. Will put this link in now and be back later
Med
Blue Shift
Everybody knows that human civilization first arose in North America, near where the Missouri and Mississippi Rivers join now. Then the Ice Age came along and glaciated the continent and scraped away all evidence of the earliest civilization, and forced the evacuation of all the people to North America into Europe and Asia. Hard to find fossils and artifacts when they're all ground up under tons of ice and washed into the Gulf of Mexico.
punkinworks10
reply to post by peter vlar
Hey peter,
I am a proponent of "not all out of Africa", and at least some culturally modern humans arose in north America, and did in fact back migrate to Eurasia and east Asia.
There is a growing group work showing that the out of Africa model is somewhat lacking.
For a solid critique of out of Africa
check out Dr. Dziebel's blog
anthropogenesis.kinshipstudies.org...
edit on 15-10-2013 by punkinworks10 because: (no reason given)
Blue Shift
Everybody knows that human civilization first arose in North America, near where the Missouri and Mississippi Rivers join now. Then the Ice Age came along and glaciated the continent and scraped away all evidence of the earliest civilization, and forced the evacuation of all the people to North America into Europe and Asia. Hard to find fossils and artifacts when they're all ground up under tons of ice and washed into the Gulf of Mexico.
Hanslune
reply to post by peter vlar
Yeah I think small groups were wandering around well before Clovis the problem is finding them.
Tsurugi
reply to post by Hanslune
Really? I thought there were too many artifacts uncovered at the excavation for that to be a consideration. I could see how the original find--the "etched" mammoth bone with the bi-facial point embedded in the fracture--might have been considered a possible geofact...
Hanslune
Sorry I made my reply to vague. I was replying with what I thought would be the next level of complaint, not my own opinion.
I've seen the tools and they are legit for the most part - there are some fragments that may not be, however only another find of the same age/same area/will cause them to be reconsidered