The Ancient Alien Theory: Do YOU Believe? Why?

Originally posted by eManym
The ancient alien theory is the product of lazy minds. The concept of, I can't figure it out, so it must of extraterrestrial origin, just isn't the correct response. Where is the proof of extraterrestrial intervention? There is known.

Of course there are clay tablets with inscriptions with objects that look like stars and planets but no proof that the objects are actually stars and planets.

Or small golden objects that look like planes. I tend to think they are representations of birds or 3D representations of a hieroglyph.

Its like someone taking a test that can't answer a question. Well I'll just guess and hope its correct.

edit on 17-8-2013 by eManym because: (no reason given)

I disagree, I believe that this theory is the product of anything but lazy minds.. I believe that those who are sheep to mainstream's tale of it all are those with lazy minds.. There is more than just tablets, the AA theory suggests that evidence of it has to do with all of the accounts of gods and phenomenon coming from the sky and descriptions of aerial crafts, advanced technology, visitors, and such...

reply to post by Trueman


You should continue to say it as often as needed.

Thanks for sharing your personal story.

reply to post by TheIceQueen


Well not the crazy stuff on the History channel, but since I would be crazy to refute UFOs and the chance for alien elsewhere. I must admit that the amount of reports of those that seem under intelligent control (discarding 3rd degree reports) and even some that predate the industrial revolution, make me a believer in ancient aliens as I have no way to establish a chronological limit to the phenomena.

There are also some historic bizarre anomalies and unknowns that among many possibilities (at the bottom of the pile) may indeed have alien listed, since I do not believe in angels and magic or an direct intervening god I wouldn't mind putting aliens below effects of unknown physics.

Anybody else?

reply to post by CirqueDeTruth


This is also my theory of it all too, the Ancient Sumerian tablets which clearly shows our solar system on them is too much for my mind to comprehend. How did they know?

I watched Nick Cook's programme on More 4 last night. He is I think a reporter who specialises in planes etc but he has been researching UFO's for over 20 years and in his programme he accessed people and places that the public obviously can't. He settled on the view that despite many explanable sightings there are still a number he cannot explain.

He showed the videos of the two times that UFO's flew over the White House which he felt he couldn't explain.
I wondered if there is a possibility that we have made contact with the pilots of those craft and their origins have been held from the public. Certainly it seems the nature of humanity has subtely changed into a greed beyond belief from those times to today - but who knows. To fly by the way they did mean't something.


He also went into the German war programme and their anti gravity experiments which, we don't know whether they actually created anti gravity vessels or not and we also don't know what the USA took from the Germans when they raided all their facilities. We do know a piece of equipment called The Bell was linked to a 'support' structure and supplied copious electricity by the local power station, but then nothing more. We also know of the rumours of the Germans getting to the moon and also didn't some scientists fire a bomb into it some short time ago? We seem to know or hypothesize a lot of ideas but its hard to nail any of this down fully.

On the strength of the above I keep an open mind about whether humanity in the past was not far more advanced than we are today and possibly either destroyed itself accidentally or fought wars that destroyed most signs of its past existence. We don't seem able to face the idea that perhaps we caused the flood by ancient warfare.

I know the people who are in the bible, the Annanaki seem to be also a possibility for altering us genetically and again I keep an open mind because of our scientists tinkering with our DNA now. Its hard for people to accept the idea that our historical records only cover such a short period of our existence and religion has been determined to keep it that way and worked against us finding out the truth. One doesn't want the politics of either science or religion, just the facts please.

I suspect we will eventually find out our origins.

Originally posted by skyblueworld
reply to post by CirqueDeTruth

 

This is also my theory of it all too, the Ancient Sumerian tablets which clearly shows our solar system on them is too much for my mind to comprehend. How did they know?

You know, the Sumerians could write too.

They never mention any planet you can't see with the naked eye.

Why do you suppose this is?

Obviously, because the didn't know about them.

Relax your mind - what you can't comprehend here isn't even true.

Harte

Originally posted by Rosinitiate
reply to post by Trueman

 

You should continue to say it as often as needed.

Thanks for sharing your personal story.

I do, everytime I see open minded people. Thanks.

What I believe is that humans are not a natural product of this planet. Out of every single species of animal there is, we are the only one's who do not work in tandem with nature. Instead, we seem to work against it. Once upon a time, this wasn't the case. Before all of our technological advances, we had to work with nature. We had no choice.

Look at how we have treated the planet on which we live. We have done far more bad things to it than good. We do not know how to sustain that which sustains us, therefor, we try to control it and we fail every time. This is a very unnatural way to live. For as long as humans have roamed the earth, you would think we would know how to treat it at this point, but we don't. The ways in which we advance ourselves technically, we screw the planet in the process. We're like a fish out of water.

I have a very hard time believing that a natural course of things that allowed us to learn how to build things that, in the process, took us farther away from nature, is "natural". If anything, we're devolving because what we deem to be "natural" at this point is slowly dumbing us down and killing us. Ancient astronauts? Our ancestors in my opinion.

If you ask me, we don't belong here.

Originally posted by Peacetime
What I believe is that humans are not a natural product of this planet. Out of every single species of animal there is, we are the only one's who do not work in tandem with nature. Instead, we seem to work against it. Once upon a time, this wasn't the case. Before all of our technological advances, we had to work with nature. We had no choice.

A wider argument could be made that the "human problem" is more about the lack of effective predation. This ties into your statement about technological advance quite well.

But every species will "work against nature" if it is removed from the niche where it evolved - like we have removed ourselves from our own niche:

Since the introduction of rabbits to Australia, the surrounding wildlife has been greatly effected by these pests – as the rabbits have been termed since early on. Livestock populations are one of the largest groups that have been affected. It was estimated in 1936 that the extermination of the rabbit population in New South Wales would liberate enough area to accommodate twelve to twenty million more sheep (Dollman). In addition to affects on livestock, adverse effects were also placed upon other traditional prey species. Soon after the introduction of rabbits followed the introduction of the fox, in an effort to curb the rabbit populations. However, the foxes seemed to take advantage of their relatively exotic surroundings and turned their attention to easier caught prey including rare ground birds, indigenous marsupials, and rodents. The only remaining semi-natural enemy of the rabbit populations in Australia is now the dingo. However, in the early 20th Century, dingos were frequently slaughtered due to their aggressive carnivorous habits (Dollman). Without a traditional predator/prey environment, the rabbits were left to an uninhibited lifestyle. In the end, it seemed to be up to the humans to deal with the problem that they ultimately started.

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You could say that the rabbit problem in Australia is another aspect of humans "working against nature," and that is also true. Humans removed rabbits from their niches and placed them where they'd never evolved. However, I'm saying that humans also did this very same thing to themselves by their very successes as a species.

No reason at all to think that "working against nature" is a symptom of being anything other than what we are - just another animal that has evolved here on Earth - albeit a quite successful one (in at least several senses.) Out of our niche, we work against nature just like the rabbit example.

Harte

reply to post by TheIceQueen


Whats the real difference between 'God' and 'inter-dimensional alien beings'. Arent they both extraterrestrial?

Furthermore, If there were an interdimensional entity that came from a dimension in which 'time' doesn't play the same role it does in our dimension, would it not seem immortal to us? would it not seem to be 'God' in every sense of the word!??

I have come to the conclusion that humans are limited naturally. There is only so much we can comprehend or physically experience. So if an omnipotent entity such as God were to prove his existence to us, we would never really be able to know if its God or just something else beyond our scope or understanding!

reply to post by TheIceQueen




I have a link to a video a guy made explaining where AA is not only wrong about many things, but also just plain lies about stuff. Really, I think people assume that if someone claims it's true, it has to be. That's bs, I can make any claims I want, create any dilemma I want to support said claims. Than, if my ideas are the ones that bring viewers than they'll be the ones that will get a show. Who cares if all of my facts are even outright lies, or just oversights of clear overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

If you really want to find out some answers, watch the video. It's about 4 hours long, but you can watch some now, some later. The guy gives full references to everything he mentions, unlike AA, which makes claims, with no true supporting evidence.

Be warned, he stays on the same subject for the first 45 min - 1 hour. After that, he just explodes on it. The guy did his research.

Technologically advanced and logical beings, being confused with fictional tribal/civilization gods or angels that are illogical to the logical. Seems logical enough.

reply to post by Specimen


The only reason there's confusion is because AA lies about facts to make their point seem valid. If they don't have real supporting evidence, they make it up. Their audience doesn't bother to check up on it, confusion.

I agree with the overall idea of Ancient Astronaut Theory not with every claim of the show 'Ancient Aliens'.

Biblical paintings could be explained otherwise and not 'saucers' but first off - if any of the Bible is true, there is lots of technology possibly described there - any appearance with steam and fire, or some vague explanation of a machine could really be something advanced.

Lots of mysteries remain, lots of unanswered questions. For example, in human evolution, no one can give a proper explanation how come the human mind developed like no other species, why we never see some other species to be in some more evolved state of mind and is pretty much where they have always been even millennia ago. Evolution of the body but not evolution of the mind, while humans just pulled that out like no other species ever did - come on, this combined with more and more clues of ancient visitors, make this an absolutely possible case.

I could go on and on, I could give examples of some 'myths' turning out true like the Red Hairs at Lovelock but I've done it lots of times to post the same over and over again.

I think a preponderance of the vast evidence is enough to prove the point. This too is why there will never be a "disclosure". There doesn't have to be.

Extraordinary claims, require extraordinary proof. The evidence is overwhelming.

So for those who believe this...no more proof is necessary. And for those who don't? No proof...no matter how much...will ever be enough.

Yes, I believe in the ancient alien theory. Where we may differ is our use of the word "alien".

There is Biblical proof that we humans were visited by "aliens" and our bloodlines were compromised.

Unfortunately, we seem to wish to return to that time regardless of the warnings against doing so.

If you have the time/patience, please watch these videos:

They have been coming here for tens of thousands of years.

Also in the 4 BILLION years the Earth has existed there have been at least 3 advanced societies which developed and subsequently disappeared.

Who doesn't believe that answer how intelligently formed artifacts have been found hundreds of feet deep in rock and coal and how huge stone structures exist that are impossible to replicate even with today's technology.

The history of the world has been hidden from us in order to preserve stupid religious traditions and stories which have nothing to do with God or the teachings of Jesus.

reply to post by TheIceQueen


I definitely believe in the AA theory. At least to some extent. I have just recently joined ATS (like 3 days ago), so I am still doing a ton of research on various theories. However, AA is one theory that definitely stands out to me.

As other people have said, things in the bible sound a lot like aliens and technology not of this planet. I'm not saying humans weren't smart in the past, but they weren't, obviously, as technologically advanced as we are now. I bring this up because think about it this way. If you were a person living in the time of Christ, you obviously wouldn't have the same understanding of mechanical structures or things from another planet. If we saw an alien spacecraft land right now outside our house, we would obviously know what it is. Maybe not specifics, but we would definitely know it wasn't from earth. These people knew that too, but they used their knowledge of the time to explain it as miracles, angels, demons, flaming chariots of fire, cherubims, etc. I could go way more in depth about what i believe about AA and what not, so feel free to ask my opinion.

I am an extremely opened minded person, so I would gladly hear any objections or supports of my beliefs. I am still trying to find out what i believe in 100%.

Thanks,
ContactME

all throughout vedic text ufos and ETs(in different forms) are described. people have seen ufos and have been abducted by ufos. they are most defiantly "alien". there is no reason to think they haven't been here a very long time.