9/11 - The Untold Stories of the 9/11 Families - In their own words.

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posted on Aug, 14 2013 @ 04:29 PM
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This is a sequel to the 9/11 Press For Truth film about the struggle of the widows to get the government to investigate 9/11. First movie is very disturbing, but I think this one is even more disturbing.

Searched and didn't find this posted yet.




Uploaded on Jan 2, 2011 In late 2006, the movie 9/11 Press For Truth became a worldwide underground hit. It exposed the story of the "Jersey Girls" and their allies -- the 9/11 families who had fought for the Commission but ultimately failed in seeing 70% of their questions answered. IN THEIR OWN WORDS: THE UNTOLD STORIES OF THE 9/11 FAMILIES is the new, official companion DVD to 9/11 Press For Truth. Over 2 hours of unseen families' interviews and rare news clips originally intended for inclusion in the movie ended up on the cutting room floor -- until now. A unique, balanced look at a diverse group of topics includes: •Top officials' whereabouts and changing stories on the day of 9/11 •Insider trading before the attacks •War games coinciding with Sept. 11th •A confrontation between the families and FBI Director Mueller •British reports that some of the hijackers named by the FBI are simply wrong •Government whistleblowers' calls for accountability •The FBI informant who lived with 2 of the hijackers •A Defense Department program that identified 4 hijackers in 2000 •The families' push to receive the Pentagon crash tapes •Bin Laden extradition negotiations after 9/11




posted on Aug, 18 2013 @ 04:02 AM
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Thanks for posting

Interesting that non of the resident debunkers have touched this yet

Very hard to defend the official story after watching this. At the very least the PTB let this happen

Are these family members conspiracy theorist? Nutters? Out of touch with reality?

No they just want answers as to why their loved ones died when it was completely avoidable

12 years down the line and still no answers just a slap in the face!



posted on Aug, 18 2013 @ 06:10 AM
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powerful video. Much info I haven't seen so far.


That about wraps it up for me...I think I already said that a few times before.



posted on Aug, 18 2013 @ 06:33 AM
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People still seeking answers...always a good thing!

Typically castigated by the residents here as "disrespectful."

Every time I see that adjective applied here to anyone who questions the events of 9/11/01, I find it troubling. Anyone pointing a finger should always remember there are three fingers pointing back to you at the very same time...



posted on Aug, 18 2013 @ 11:03 AM
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Why can't the conspiracy theorists find any whistle blowers.... If there was a cover up someone would say something, right?

To be honest, I am now more disturbed by the people defending the official story than by the actual attack itself.



posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 01:17 AM
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Good video, and I watched the whole thing.

It is my personal belief, after ten years of study, that there had to be a reason that highest level directives constantly shut down critical investigations of the hijackers occurring at lower street levels in the FBI. The "hijack the hijackers" theory explains to me why and how this might have happened.

Clearly, if the operation was a covert operation directed from the highest offices, and if the hijackers were recruited and told that they were going to live- when the real plan called for the planes to be hijacked by remote control, with the hijackers being the patsy cover story- then it would make sense for those rogue high level officials to shut down any investigations at lower levels so that no trace could be found leading back to them.

That theory would also explain:
1. Why an independent investigation was resisted at the highest levels for so long.
2. Why the 9/11 Omission was setup to fail, and was severely restricted in both subpoena power and limited severely in the questions they could ask. Why there were "watchers" in place at the highest levels to insure that no information was given that could expose this plot.
3. How the planes were outfitted with hardened nose penetrators, had explosives on board, and were preprepped with remote control systems, which we know existed. At the highest levels these planes were likely prepared secretly through black budget operations.
4. How the "hijackers" knew which planes to board. Cause they were told.
5. How the transponders were shut off.
6. The put options: insider knowledge of the plot.
7. How Silverstein knew to take out all that insurance.
8. Why Saudi Arabia and/or Israel would be involved.
9. Why they tried to incriminate Iraq with the whole WMD fiasco.
10. How the FBI had pictures of these supposed hijackers up within 48 hours on our screens.

And so much more...
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posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 07:07 AM
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1. Why an independent investigation was resisted at the highest levels for so long.


Not sure what you mean by 'independent investigation' All three branches of government, the judicial, executive and legislative, along with the 4th estate (the media) are satisfied with the investigation to date.




2. Why the 9/11 Omission was setup to fail, and was severely restricted in both subpoena power and limited severely in the questions they could ask. Why there were "watchers" in place at the highest levels to insure that no information was given that could expose this plot.

The commission had to balance the public's right to know with protecting operators in the field. At the time of the commission hearings more than 100 operators were active in Afghanistan, Iraq and Yemen. Protecting their mission, and their lives, is more important than public hearings.




3. How the planes were outfitted with hardened nose penetrators, had explosives on board, and were preprepped with remote control systems, which we know existed. At the highest levels these planes were likely prepared secretly through black budget operations.

If you have evidence of this there is a whole world waiting to see it.




4. How the "hijackers" knew which planes to board. Cause they were told.

They had tickets and boarding passes like the millions of Americans who fly each year. All were bought 2 weeks in advance by internet purchase.



5. How the transponders were shut off.

Transponders are not 'shut off' they are engaged and disengaged. It's been 8 years since I set in a 757 simulator and I still remember how to do it. A sweet computer voice tells you their status and would you like to override the auto pilot and disengage.



6. The put options: insider knowledge of the plot.

Not sure what you are talking about.



7. How Silverstein knew to take out all that insurance.

Irrelevant.



8. Why Saudi Arabia and/or Israel would be involved.

We will never know the details of the Kingdom's involvement. Israel was involved after the fact in enhanced interrogations. Other than that they are infective in gathering intelligence.



9. Why they tried to incriminate Iraq with the whole WMD fiasco.

This has nothing to do with the 9/11 plot.



10. How the FBI had pictures of these supposed hijackers up within 48 hours on our screens.

Actually they had them in about 48 minutes as seat numbers were phoned in by heroic flight attendants.



posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 08:48 AM
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Not sure what you mean by 'independent investigation' All three branches of government, the judicial, executive and legislative, along with the 4th estate (the media) are satisfied with the investigation to date.


That's awesome! You forgot the people though. Are THe People satisfied?



posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 09:32 AM
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Originally posted by kaya82
Thanks for posting

Interesting that non of the resident debunkers have touched this yet

Very hard to defend the official story after watching this. At the very least the PTB let this happen

Are these family members conspiracy theorist? Nutters? Out of touch with reality?

No they just want answers as to why their loved ones died when it was completely avoidable

12 years down the line and still no answers just a slap in the face!


I can't speak for everyone else, but I didn't comment on it because it's intellectually dishonest to comment on such a thing without watching it first, and frankly, I don't care enough about it to waste an hour watching it when I'd put money on it that it isn't going to be anything but "isn't THAT interesting (wink wink)" innuendo dropping becuase that's literally all the conspiracy people ever post. Moreover, simply posting this video contradicts 75% of the conspiracy theorists' own claims because it necessarily means the passengers really were victims whose lives were lost on 9/11, rather than faked identities that only exist on paper, or government agents who disembarked at a clandestine base beforehand and living incognito somewhere. You do know this video flushes the whole "the phone calls from the planes were faked" argument down the toilet right there, right?

Let me ask you this- to my knowledge, not a single Jersey Girl...as in NOT ONE...subscribes to any of these sinister plots of secret controlled demolitions, fake planes, earthquake machines, lasers from outer space, or any of the other conspiracy stories floating round. Their entire modus operandi is to document where the failings are so that it doesnt happen again. Does this video even remotely change that?



posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 09:54 AM
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They don't talk about your favorite theories. I would like to see you try to debunk what the say, but that won't happen cause you only care about earthquake machines and space lasers.



posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 09:59 AM
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Originally posted by spooky24



1. Why an independent investigation was resisted at the highest levels for so long.


Not sure what you mean by 'independent investigation' All three branches of government, the judicial, executive and legislative, along with the 4th estate (the media) are satisfied with the investigation to date.


I've asked this I don't know how many times, and to a man/woman, every single conspiracy theorists ran away from the question the same way three card monty hucksters do when the cops show up, so I'll ask again- Just who could ever be on any independent investigation that would make it a legitimate investigation while still making it independent? Everyone with the qualifications to do any analysis, from FAA crash site forensics experts to FBI terrorist specialists to NORAD communications technicians who hve the technical experiences and trainign to do such an investigation all have government connections and are therefore "tainted", while conspiracy proponents like Richard Gage and Alex Jones wouldn't know the difference between a black box and a toaster so they are hardly people to do any reasonable technical analysis on anything. Seriously, who's left?

It seems to me this whole "independent investigation" bit is nothing but a phony stunt the conspiracy people are using to keep their conspiracy stories alive by insisting on being given something that cannot possibly exist. Realistically, even if by some fluke such an independent investigation could exist and by some even greater fluke the investigation was able to discover that Bush knew the attack was coming and ordered everyone to look the other way to let it happen, do you think the "secret controlled demolitions" groupies would ever accept their findings?



posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 10:14 AM
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Originally posted by whatsecret
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They don't talk about your favorite theories. I would like to see you try to debunk what the say, but that won't happen cause you only care about earthquake machines and space lasers.


All right then, please provide a transcript and I'll read it.



posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 10:15 AM
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How about the investigation actually try to find out who is responsible and hold them accountable this time? Everybody failed therefor nobody will be held accountable is just a little too obvious, don't you think?

Oh and maybe promoting people who failed to do their jobs is also a little strange, no?
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posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 10:18 AM
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Originally posted by GoodOlDave

Originally posted by whatsecret
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They don't talk about your favorite theories. I would like to see you try to debunk what the say, but that won't happen cause you only care about earthquake machines and space lasers.


All right then, please provide a transcript and I'll read it.


For me to do that, I would need to care about what you think. But I don't, sorry.



posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by whatsecret
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How about the investigation actually try to find out who is responsible and hold them accountable this time? Everybody failed therefor nobody will be held accountable is just a little too obvious, don't you think?


I agree, but holding someone accountable for an event that hadn't happened yet is tricky. Before 9/11, every airport hired its own security firm to screen passengers and look for smuggled contraband. National security agencies didn't share its list of people they were keeping a close watch on with private firms so at best there would have had a bulletin from the DEA taped next to the metal detector to keep an eye out for known smugglers. What could you possibly charge someone with for refusing to allow private security firms from seeing FBI terrorist watch lists years before the 9/1 attack even occured?

Even then, I don't see how the Jersey Girl's concerns helps the conspiracy theorists one iota, since everything I've heard says their concern was to make sure it couldn't happen again, rather than research into any of the myriad conspiracy stories floating around. Does this video show that to be incorrect?



posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by whatsecret

Originally posted by GoodOlDave

Originally posted by whatsecret
reply to post by GoodOlDave
 


They don't talk about your favorite theories. I would like to see you try to debunk what the say, but that won't happen cause you only care about earthquake machines and space lasers.


All right then, please provide a transcript and I'll read it.


For me to do that, I would need to care about what you think. But I don't, sorry.


All right then, I will therefore continue to explain in detail how farfetched the myriad conspiracy theories are, and you will apparently continue to refuse pointing out why anything I say is incorrect. I can live with that.



posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 10:58 AM
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It all comes down to evidence.
All the evidence is on the OS side.

The truth side only has speculation an supposition.



posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by GoodOlDave

Originally posted by whatsecret
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How about the investigation actually try to find out who is responsible and hold them accountable this time? Everybody failed therefor nobody will be held accountable is just a little too obvious, don't you think?


I agree, but holding someone accountable for an event that hadn't happened yet is tricky. Before 9/11, every airport hired its own security firm to screen passengers and look for smuggled contraband. National security agencies didn't share its list of people they were keeping a close watch on with private firms so at best there would have had a bulletin from the DEA taped next to the metal detector to keep an eye out for known smugglers. What could you possibly charge someone with for refusing to allow private security firms from seeing FBI terrorist watch lists years before the 9/1 attack even occured?

Even then, I don't see how the Jersey Girl's concerns helps the conspiracy theorists one iota, since everything I've heard says their concern was to make sure it couldn't happen again, rather than research into any of the myriad conspiracy stories floating around. Does this video show that to be incorrect?


That just shows how little you know, or choose to know.

They want to make sure the people who allowed it to happen are nowhere near anything that has to do with national security or any other government agency.

In reality these people did not only keep their jobs, but many of them got promoted. There's only one reason that I can accept for this happening, A reward for a job well done. I doubt Bin Landen could have done that.

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posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by samkent
It all comes down to evidence.
All the evidence is on the OS side.

The truth side only has speculation an supposition.


This will not become true if you keep saying it.



posted on Aug, 19 2013 @ 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by whatsecret

That just shows how little you know, or choose to know.

They want to make sure the people who allowed it to happen are nowhere near anything that has to do with national security or any other government agency.

In reality these people did not only keep their jobs, but many of them got promoted. There's only one reason that I can accept for this happening, A reward for a job well done. I doubt Bin Landen could have done that.


Since you say "allowed it to happen" do I presume you are of the LIHOP ("Let It Happen On Purpose") camp, as in you believe the attack and the resulting aftermath are 100% real but it's just that the gov't consciously chose to let the attack proceed, rather than the MIHOP ("Make It Happen On Purpose") camp, as in you don't believe the attack was completely staged with fake planes, fake buildings, fake video, fake victims, fake eyewitnesses, fake terrorists, fake NIST reports, fake etc etc etc.?

You do know you are without question the minority population of the conspiracy moment, right? In all the time I've been posting here you're perhaps only the second person I've encountered who subscribes to that theory.
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