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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
What a pointless argument. The sort of "unnatural influence" that magic wielders exert over the world around them is more psychological than anything else. Every tool, every herb, every word is them taking a psychological element and manipulating it with the goal of manipulating their own mind. That's what it's called a ritual.
It is their right to practice these things, as long as they aren't infringing on others' rights. If they want to drive themselves mad, then I wish them the best of fortune. It's not like I can stop them. This thread proves that.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by BlueLobster
The vibes you are feeling from this thread are nothing more or less than the vibes you get from any other conflict between opposing bands of humans. So no, it's nothing specific to wicca or witches.
Originally posted by PtolemyII
The witches of the UK helped to bring down Hitler, and the pagan community of NYC made sure the REAL perpetrators of 911 were made to pay.
I, personally, took action on certain events in Iraq.
Witches of honor, and there are many of us , do the right thing, which you obviously know nothing about.
Ritual used to control fate of the planet, is being used by GOVERNMENTS . I suggest you look into itedit on 8/16/13 by PtolemyII because: (no reason given)edit on 8/16/13 by PtolemyII because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by works4dhs
Originally posted by PtolemyII
The witches of the UK helped to bring down Hitler, and the pagan community of NYC made sure the REAL perpetrators of 911 were made to pay.
I, personally, took action on certain events in Iraq.
Witches of honor, and there are many of us , do the right thing, which you obviously know nothing about.
Ritual used to control fate of the planet, is being used by GOVERNMENTS . I suggest you look into itedit on 8/16/13 by PtolemyII because: (no reason given)edit on 8/16/13 by PtolemyII because: (no reason given)
um...source? documentation?
if your kind has so much power, why is the world so screwed up? can you stop the violence in Detroit? bring gas down to $2.00/gallon?
any chance of a prediction of some future acheivmen?
Originally posted by BlueLobster
I am not saying rituals have no effect, I am just asking you how you know this is what they accomplished.
Originally posted by Wyrdnews
Witches were used many times throughout warfare, they used to place them in towers overlooking battles.
Originally posted by greyhat
Originally posted by BlueLobster
I am not saying rituals have no effect, I am just asking you how you know this is what they accomplished.
Magic is to produce statistically unlikely states by will.
You will never know, could still have been a fluke, coincidence, fortune...
Originally posted by Wyrdnews
Trouble is, those statistics are getting harder to quantify seeing as quantum science is beginning to recognise that conscious observation changes the results of experiments. Seems like as science goes on its just simply proving the old shamanistic teachings correct.
I am talking about rituals, black magick, enochian magick, evocation, invocations and so on, not science as it is today even if some part of science could be banished because of the abuse which could result.
Originally posted by greyhat
Originally posted by BlueLobster
I am not saying rituals have no effect, I am just asking you how you know this is what they accomplished.
Magic is to produce statistically unlikely states by will.
You will never know, could still have been a fluke, coincidence, fortune...
Originally posted by thruthseek3r
Originally posted by LionOfGOD
reply to post by thruthseek3r
Yes.
To this very day, EVERY day.
But doing so does NOT give you a free pass from responsibility.
It doesn´t do so for me, and it sure as hell doesn´t do so for anyone else either.
I know the cost, and i pay it as agreed.edit on 17-8-2013 by LionOfGOD because: (no reason given)
I can take responsibility for the fact that I might be the reason why they came into my life yes I agree. Although we have to consider, if you are aware of this stuff, that the forces of chaos and separation do are strong and have a strong influence over our lives and it needs to be addressed more if we are the vanquish them.
Thruthseek3r
Originally posted by Erongaricuaro
Originally posted by thruthseek3r
I have been mistaken, and was obscure by a dark entity of some sort. I am sorry for any witchcraft practitioner that I could have insulted, hurt or damaged their view on the topic in any shape or form.
Please, bear with me, one who talked those words against witchcraft was not me but a dark entity which has some problem with witchcraft. I am now working on myself on a subconscious level to clean out those "parasites" which are inside me.
If there is anybody which needed to deal with this kind of issue in the past or has any type of knowledge relevant to it, please let me know.
Sincerely yours and now in the known as having been obscured, sadly ... Thruthseek3r
Wow. What a back flip, and after almost four full days. I wonder, what kind of obscure, dark, and parasitic entity possesses someone like that to set people off on a tirade and campaign against nature-worship religious practicioners?
I'll take a pass on that wine and wafer, thank you.
edit on 17-8-2013 by Erongaricuaro because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Logarock
Originally posted by Erongaricuaro
Originally posted by thruthseek3r
I have been mistaken, and was obscure by a dark entity of some sort. I am sorry for any witchcraft practitioner that I could have insulted, hurt or damaged their view on the topic in any shape or form.
Please, bear with me, one who talked those words against witchcraft was not me but a dark entity which has some problem with witchcraft. I am now working on myself on a subconscious level to clean out those "parasites" which are inside me.
If there is anybody which needed to deal with this kind of issue in the past or has any type of knowledge relevant to it, please let me know.
Sincerely yours and now in the known as having been obscured, sadly ... Thruthseek3r
Wow. What a back flip, and after almost four full days. I wonder, what kind of obscure, dark, and parasitic entity possesses someone like that to set people off on a tirade and campaign against nature-worship religious practicioners?
I'll take a pass on that wine and wafer, thank you.
edit on 17-8-2013 by Erongaricuaro because: (no reason given)
Oh please with the sanctimonious whining. What goes on out in the groves isn't fit to be talked about.
Magic is to produce statistically unlikely states by will.
you are still at that same level of spiritual war.