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Originally posted by PaidDisinfoAgentEvidence of tampering has been pointed out by member WBhist, who is Video Description Editor and Technical Historian of The Museum of Classic Chicago Television. His knowledge on this is far superior than anybody else who has chimed in here. And this is an email from Rick Klein President, Founder, and Chief Archive Curator in regards to the videos provided in the OP.
Originally posted by verticalprojectileSo, to sum up: 1. This is a hoax because the guy who originally caught it, slowed it down and re-uploaded it paired it with a certain kind of music. 2. Albeit without citation, this is likely legal. Anyone else want to take a shot? Because this seems a little weak in the debunking department.
Originally posted by kellynap43 I think we all can use a little common sense and tell this is a hoax. Common on, even the music used in the 2nd video is a little dramatic. With all that said, I have no doubt that there are companies and organizations out there that do this on a regular basis. Not saying that this is moral by any means, but can anybody clarify if it is against the law?WBhist First Post WBhist Second Post WBhist Third Post WBhist Fourth Post And here is an email from WBhist earlier:
Just to clarify, the videos on the link you sent me are not from WMAQ. One that we have on our site that IS from WMAQ, seen here: www.fuzzymemories.tv... - uses the same old SSB film. As you can see, the text does not flutter as the doctored one does. It's pretty clear this is a hoax Rick
I can say that that particular "SSB" film was created some time in the early or mid-1960's (the 50 stars on the flag are the key to dating this). Since WMAQ was broadcasting in color since the 1950's, it figures they'd get the color print - which they may've run since at least the mid-'60's. Evidently, it had to have been in the period between '84 and '89 that its use on Channel 5 ceased. The person who put up that original "SSB" film on YouTube has said that in that case, it had come from a TV station in Alabama. The question then is, which other stations besides WMAQ and the Alabama station used it? It also appears that the film as on YouTube was originally in black-and-white, but colorized (and badly at that) for the most part, except to get the opening Seal of the President and the closing shot of the flag. The WMAQ print was in genuine color (and the lines of the song were colored yellow). Also, both versions used the exact same rendition of the "SSB" (though on YouTube, it sounds a bit hollow). As for the "subliminal" stuff, presuming it's all true, maybe some early prints would've had that stuff, but the producers got flak for it and by the time WMAQ got their copy, it was a straight transition from one line to the next (yeah, I know, that'd be stretching it a bit). Moreover, I saw a slight difference in the positioning of each line between the print on YouTube and that on the WMAQ sign-off. The outlines differed too: a drop-shadow on the YouTube clip, overhead shadow with a bit of outline on the WMAQ print. The lines on the color print used by WMAQ seemed to be slightly to the right of how they were positioned on the B&W print colorized on YouTube. If anything in the YouTube clip could be called a "hoax," it'd be the bad colorization. But looking at the transitions between lines, it would seem that as the "subliminals" surfaced, the images around the screen became more muddled. I also saw a site - i.imgur.com... - claiming the "subliminals" version had more picture on the screen than what they called the "non-subliminals" version on WMAQ (and the Fuzzy site). Duh, that's because the film was made in 1.37 : 1 aspect ratio - and WMAQ ran their print only in 1.33 : 1 aspect ratio, thus cutting off the rest of the picture on the left and right. And that link has the nerve to claim the WMAQ print was "altered." In sum, there would have been two versions of this "SSB" film made - one in B&W, the other in color. The former, on YouTube, may well have been doctored in many different ways. The WMAQ print was unfutzed. Hope this answers some of your questions. -- William Brown, New York City. ("New York City?!" - Pace Picante ad ;-) )
Originally posted by totallackey
Well, every government head of state has a time, whether by election or right of succession. In the Bible, God raises and lowers kingdoms and empires as He sees fit.
This is where the concept of "divine right of kings," comes from.