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Originally posted by signalfire
The only correlation I've been able to come up with to explain 'intelligence' is the trait of curiosity.
While there are many highly educated people that may be curious about certain subjects and still maintain a corraled-off area of their brain that is religious, I think with many it's simply a fealty to family beliefs and traditions. I think you'd be hard put to find a scientist or other highly educated person who thought prayer was really going to work in any given situation, any more than a rabbit's foot is good luck or sending a list to Santa Claus will get you what you want for Christmas.
I haven't found that religious people have much curiosity about the world at all; they seem satisfied with being told what to 'believe' by others and seem uninterested in questioning those early trainings.
Originally posted by predator0187
Source
Religious people are less intelligent than non-believers, according to a new review of 63 scientific studies stretching back over decades.
A team led by Miron Zuckerman of the University of Rochester found “a reliable negative relation between intelligence and religiosity” in 53 out of 63 studies. Even in extreme old age, intelligent people are less likely to believe, the researchers found - and the reasons why people with high IQs shun religion may not be as simple as previously thought.
Previous studies have tended to assume that intelligent people simply “know better”, the researchers write - but the reasons may be more complex.
For instance, intelligent people are more likely to be married, and more likely to be successful in life - and this may mean they “need” religion less.
The studies used in Zuckerman's paper included a life-long analysis of the beliefs of a group of 1,500 gifted children - those with IQs over 135 - in a study which began in 1921 and continues today.
First and foremost, this is not my opinion, this is an article that has basis in scientific studies.
Secondly, as an atheist, I am not to sure how to take this article.
The term 'intelligence' is quite a subjective word. Atheists could be more open minded to learning new things and much more open to subjects as they do not contradict the 'words' of their God.
Also, I know plenty of religious people that can hold their own in in depth conversations about scientific subjects. I think the science completely contradicts the religion they believe in, and I believe religion is a way of explaining the world before we had science, but, hey, to each their own.
Anyway I thought I would bring it here just for the discussion aspect of the subject...
Any thoughts?
Pred...edit on 12-8-2013 by predator0187 because: (no reason given)
"Every major religion in the world has been manufactured or infiltrated by the Illuminati to enslave and brainwash society. In essence, religion was the first form of mind control." Link
Originally posted by olaru12
They may be intelligent but I wish they would mind their own business and quit knocking on my door. I don't want to talk about Jesus and I don't want those magazines.
I think smart people would realize that proselytizing and trying to force their religion down other peoples throat is...
STUPID
Originally posted by TarzanBeta
Originally posted by olaru12
They may be intelligent but I wish they would mind their own business and quit knocking on my door. I don't want to talk about Jesus and I don't want those magazines.
I think smart people would realize that proselytizing and trying to force their religion down other peoples throat is...
STUPID
Relax.
New people are born everyday. Never been into marketing, have you?
New people are born everyday and subjected to the same and sometimes new manipulations everyday.
Until new people stop being born, then new people will not stop repeating the same mistakes as those that came before them.
New people will knock on your door. IT doesn't make them bad. They're doing what they believe at the moment is good for their spiritual growth. And it IS good to be rejected harshly by so many people; because knocking on doors does NOT gain church goers, but it sure teaches the those that are new in their respective faiths that it's not easy being green, and that's the real point. It's not about your experience at that point, it's about theirs; but neither of you know that, do you?
Now you have witnessed a couple of those that have properly evangelized, and still yet, you have refused to hear. If you had heard, you would have humility, respect, and sorrow for those that feel they must go knocking door to door to suffer the curses of their fellow cold-hearted brothers and sisters in humanity.
Originally posted by TarzanBeta
reply to post by olaru12
It's a part of life.
Get over it and stop crying like a baby.
Religious people are less intelligent than non-believers,
Originally posted by MystikMushroom
Anyone been through the Bible Belt recently?
Originally posted by TarzanBeta
reply to post by olaru12
You cannot be jewish and be non-religious. There is no nation of jews. There are Israelites from the modern country of Israel. But Jews are jews religiously. So therefore, you're not a jew, anymore than someone who claims to be Christian is a Christian.
At that, Jews today aren't even Jews, they're not obeying the full works of the law under which they continue to submit themselves. So they are not Jews which call themselves Jews, but they do lie.
Originally posted by Rosha
Originally posted by TarzanBeta
reply to post by olaru12
You cannot be jewish and be non-religious. There is no nation of jews. There are Israelites from the modern country of Israel. But Jews are jews religiously. So therefore, you're not a jew, anymore than someone who claims to be Christian is a Christian.
At that, Jews today aren't even Jews, they're not obeying the full works of the law under which they continue to submit themselves. So they are not Jews which call themselves Jews, but they do lie.
Interjecting..
Yes you can. To be Jewish is to be of the tribe of Judah...a cultural and familiaral association first and foremost.
To be a practitioner of the religion of the tribe of Judah is a separate thing and a personal choice just as the level of participation is. Not every one in the tribe of Judah goes to Temple...but they are still of the tribe.
Ro