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Originally posted by Thorneblood
I take it he means this law.
WA Recording Law
Washington's wiretapping law is a "two-party consent" law. Washington makes it a crime to intercept or record a private telephone call, in-person conversation, or electronic communication unless all parties to the communication consent
edit on 11-8-2013 by Thorneblood because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by roadgravel
The police may know charges won't be made but they can still use the threat of arrest to try to get their way. Some people may decide to not record in order to not take a ride.
The average citizen doesn't have a means to intimidate police.
Originally posted by TsukiLunar
Who is the real jackass? They guy who just wants you to stop filming him. Or the guy who is intentionally filming someone in order to illicit a response?
Which brings up a good point.
The proper, non jackass, response when a cop WHO JUST CAUGHT A CRIMINAL IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD asks you to turn off the camera is. "Sure officer, it looks like you guys have things under control and have just removed a criminal from my now safer neighborhood. I will respect your wish to not be filmed and I thank you for the risk you take everyday as a S.W.A.T member."
Personally feel we have little use for these black clad, bulletproofed armored, (usually) masked, militarized buffoons. They are just shock troops and if every SWAT team was disbanded tomorrow we would be infinitely better off.
Originally posted by Bassago
reply to post by TsukiLunar
I am speaking of SWAT not the regular police officers. We do not need paramilitary assault units running around our neighborhoods.
According to a press release from a small sustainable organic co-op called 'The Garden of Eden' out of Arlington, Texas, they were surveilled by unmanned police drones and police helicopters in the days prior to being raided by a SWAT team for supposedly growing marijuana. A group of over a dozen police and a heavily armed SWAT team held those present on site at gunpoint and handcuffed them while they searched their property. No marijuana was found, but the cops forced them to bring their property "up to code," by among other things, forcing them to "mow their grass" and uproot their blackberries while they stood watch.
Originally posted by Bassago
Well, not to beat a dead horse here but once again SWAT has saved us from... er what? Oh yes, bad lawn care. And apparently no one was even killed during the daring police action.
According to a press release from a small sustainable organic co-op called 'The Garden of Eden' out of Arlington, Texas, they were surveilled by unmanned police drones and police helicopters in the days prior to being raided by a SWAT team for supposedly growing marijuana. A group of over a dozen police and a heavily armed SWAT team held those present on site at gunpoint and handcuffed them while they searched their property. No marijuana was found, but the cops forced them to bring their property "up to code," by among other things, forcing them to "mow their grass" and uproot their blackberries while they stood watch.
SWAT Team Raid Sustainable Organic Co-Op For Drugs, Find None, Force Them To Mow Their Lawn
Now I can understand the issue with having pallets, tires, and other things just laying around and being unsightly, but it's a private citizen's property that is not harming anything (except perhaps property value, or aesthetics) and I would like to know HOW a warrant was obtained for suspected marijuana growth, when NOTHING drug related was found. This is fishy as hell, but sounds like the government using the issue to "drugs" to force property owners into code compliance.
including the mother of a 22 month old and a two week old baby who was separated from her children during the raid. The police enforced activity on the day of the raid included mowing the grass, the forcible destruction of both wild and cultivated plants like blackberries, lamb’s quarters and okra, and the removal of other varied materials from around the premises such as pallets, tires and cardboard
Originally posted by GrantedBail
You want to tell me why the cops are ignoring a USSC ruling??
The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday declined to hear an appeal of a controversial Illinois law prohibiting people from recording police officers on the job.
By passing on the issue, the justices left in place a federal appeals court ruling that found that the state's anti-eavesdropping law violates free-speech rights when used against people who audiotape police officers.
I guess they are gonna make everyone fight it out in the courts. We are gonna need a website full of pro-bono lawyers because there are gonna be a bunch of people that WILL have standing to sue.
S and Fedit on 12-8-2013 by GrantedBail because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by TsukiLunar
...The proper, non jackass, response when a cop WHO JUST CAUGHT A CRIMINAL IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD asks you to turn off the camera is. "Sure officer, it looks like you guys have things under control and have just removed a criminal from my now safer neighborhood. I will respect your wish to not be filmed and I thank you for the risk you take everyday as a S.W.A.T member."
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