New low for the Tea Party

Originally posted by CryHavoc

Originally posted by neo96
If the 'christian right' was truly like the Taliban wouldn't we just shoot the left?

You mean every nutjob that's shot up or planted a bomb at an abortion clinic? Was that who you were talking about?

edit on 13-8-2013 by CryHavoc because: (no reason given)

Why yes I am guilty of doing something someone else does ! ! ! !

Thank you for telling me.

reply to post by Indigo5

Who is defending the sign???

reply to post by CryHavoc


No, like the people that break into places and release minks into the wild or other animals, only to die, or the people that bombed several locations...oh what was the groups name....Weather something or other.

Or people like the Army Member that shot fellow soldiers, or any other left leading groups violent actions.

Originally posted by macman
or the people that bombed several locations...oh what was the groups name....Weather something or other.

Seriously? You have to go back almost 50 years to find your example? Just grasping at straws here aren't you?

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Socialism negates the personal karmic return that is needed to teach the soul.

That is the strangest argument against socialism I have ever heard.

Did you know Ayn Rand considered herself an atheist?

Originally posted by Logarock

Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by sonnny1

 

This site and really this country could use more rationale such as yours, everything tends to fall into categories of grey rather than black or white. Didn't the Gestapo start as community police?

Community organizers/community police what's the difference.


But really are you going to suggest that folks wanting some public accountability of where their tax money is going are closet Gestapo? That sort of classically desperate hyperbole coming from the core of a very powerful political party in this country is why I keep an eye on my 2nd amendment rights.

I stated that we shouldn't assume it's a member of the Tea Party, there's no evidence pointing a finger anywhere... it could literally be any group or person in the country. However, it's been made abundantly clear and you've now added your support to this type of action. Liberty does not entail poking into people's private affairs, you may not like your tax dollars going to things you don't like or rather people you don't like but it is none of your goddamn business who gets their money from where. You do not have the right to publicly post peoples names throughout their neighborhood stating how they are living their life.

The Gestapo started with volunteers, checking to make sure no Jews weren't where they weren't allowed to be after curfew and that when out and about were wearing their gold stars, all for the good of the people, they thought they were morally justified too. There isn't anything hyperbolic in what I said.

I think the political affiliation is not so important. I guess the question is, Do you agree with this concept? I mean there could be some benefit. some job creator could find a job for these folks on welfare. Maybe we could have them mowing our lawns. Give em something to do. Harass em for being lazy. Strip em of their right to independence and put em out on the plantation making money for somebody who knows what they are doing.

Why should we give em money. Get a job. Maybe they could take that guy's job who wrote the note. He looks like a regular eager fellow. And sh++t he wouldn't take on assistance no way. He'll let his kids get real skinny, and show off their poverty with pride. Work for peanuts for the one who would tell him he's a good man. Spend his life broken but slogging to make even more money for the one to whom he is beholding. In other words just be a real regular fool.

reply to post by CryHavoc


Seriously you have to go to radical groups that have no affiliation with the Tea Party to find YOUR examples?

Must be the same set of straws you are working on.

Forum rules broken and the spirit of ATS damaged-

I don't normally post as I read from my field office, and have no ability to log into sites. I love ATS and learned about ATS years ago from Coast to Coast AM. (forgive my bad grammar but I will do my best).

I do read the rules, however.

This thread starts off as a defamatory and inflammatory hoax. Hit threads (as this appears to be, and many have mentioned it) serve only nefarious purposes meant to divide and poison the community. The hatred coming from this thread is sickening. This is a very obvious troll thread. What I cannot understand is why the thread title which states an obvious lie and defamatory information is even allowed to exist on this website? Deny Ignorance is the motto of ATS.

The OP, who is obviously very knowledgeable of the inner workings of ATS (he is a long time veteran here), knowingly posted from an opinion blog and presented the data as fact. This data is found to not be fact. Indeed it appears to be a hoax or even misinformation possibly even created by the blogger that he sites as the source to his facts. He knows better.

The OP could never prove that the Tea Party was ever really involved with the crimes stated as black and white in his thread title. Later in this thread he uses red herrings and straw man arguments which, aren't these against the spirit of ATS as well?

The rules that he broke alone are 15, 15b, 15g, 15i, and 16. You can look them up on this site, under forum rules. I have seen people banned for less and this guy gets a pass.

I have no respect for the OP or any other hate baiters that exist on this site. I'm ashamed of this site at the moment. This person's thread title is after all, right on the front page. A lot more people read ATS then actually post.

"Deny Ignorance"

reply to post by muse7


I don't condone what was done here but if you think the Tea Party is a "problem" in today's America, you're delusional, kiddo.

You're really posting this on ATS? Isn't this supposed to be a place where we search for truth and not get bogged down in absurd politics? This is a community of people that typically see past the games of the Democrats and Republicans.

I won't tell anyone what kind of value judgement to make on the Tea Party, but just about everything in the MSM talks about everything EXCEPT what they stand for and your post is more of that nonsense. If you have a problem with more limited government, make an appeal to the community on why that's a bad thing.

Originally posted by macman
Seriously you have to go to radical groups that have no affiliation with the Tea Party to find YOUR examples

Pretty much what everyone sees is that you're lying about not being affiliated with them. Prove them wrong.

reply to post by Indigo5

And I would tend to think that anyone who thinks the democratic party is "demanding an end to Capitalism" is a frothing at the mouth extremist.

But I didn't say the Democrat Party, I said the Occupy Movement. Although it's funny that Barack and Nancy both endorsed and praised Occupy....

Doing stuff like that does nothing to improve the overall situation. I know these activist think they are making a point and get people talking about the national debt and `freedom` but all it ends up doing is isolate people even more then they are now. They really need to rethink their tactics if they want people to take them seriously.

reply to post by CryHavoc


Oh geez, well since you have never stated you are against raping and killing kittens, then you must be for it.

Oh, why don't you leave those poor kitten alone.

See how easy this is.

There is no proof that the note came from anyone associated with the Tea Party, or any other group.

Also, please go do your research, as I have never once stated I am part of the Tea Party either.

But, thanks for using the Alinsky model to retort. It really is fun.

reply to post by macman


I'm against raping kittens before I kill them.

Originally posted by CryHavoc

Originally posted by macman
Seriously you have to go to radical groups that have no affiliation with the Tea Party to find YOUR examples

Pretty much what everyone sees is that you're lying about not being affiliated with them. Prove them wrong.

That's not how logic works. The person making the positive claim has the burden of proof. It's not the burden of someone to "prove wrong" an arbitrary positive statement. That fallacy is called "shifting the burden of proof".

Originally posted by CryHavoc

Originally posted by macman
Seriously you have to go to radical groups that have no affiliation with the Tea Party to find YOUR examples

Pretty much what everyone sees is that you're lying about not being affiliated with them. Prove them wrong.

That's not how logic works. The person making the positive claim has the burden of proof. It's not the burden of someone to "prove wrong" an arbitrary positive statement. That fallacy is called "shifting the burden of proof".

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Indigo5

 

And I would tend to think that anyone who thinks the democratic party is "demanding an end to Capitalism" is a frothing at the mouth extremist.

But I didn't say the Democrat Party, I said the Occupy Movement. Although it's funny that Barack and Nancy both endorsed and praised Occupy....

No you didn't? can't tell error from dishonesty with you?

Here's your post...no "occupy"
post by ThirdEyeofHorus