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New low for the Tea Party

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posted on Aug, 13 2013 @ 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by neo96

Don't like the hijack excuse anyway because that is a cop out.


It's as generous as I can be with the Modern Conservative Party. It has been hijacked by the far-right extremists...who canabalize men like Chris Christie for failing the "Idealogical Purity" test.

I don't see the Conservative party surviving if they continue to kowtow to thier extremist base.
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posted on Aug, 13 2013 @ 01:34 PM
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Does anyone know if you can find out who is on disability thru FOIA?



posted on Aug, 13 2013 @ 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by neo96

Don't like the hijack excuse anyway because that is a cop out.


It's as generous as I can be with the Modern Conservative Party. It has been hijacked by the far-right extremists...who canabalize men like Chris Christie for failing the "Idealogical Purity" test.

I don't see the Conservative party surviving if they continue to kowtow to thier extremist base.
edit on 13-8-2013 by Indigo5 because: (no reason given)


So ?

Isn't that what the left wants ?

To be the only game in town?



posted on Aug, 13 2013 @ 01:42 PM
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The FOIA does not require agencies to disclose all records. Some examples of records we may not disclose are:

Classified records;
Information that is confidential by law;
Internal personnel rules;
Personal information about living people;
Records of investigations; or
Trade secrets or confidential financial information.


Source



posted on Aug, 13 2013 @ 01:44 PM
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Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by neo96

Don't like the hijack excuse anyway because that is a cop out.


It's as generous as I can be with the Modern Conservative Party. It has been hijacked by the far-right extremists...who canabalize men like Chris Christie for failing the "Idealogical Purity" test.

I don't see the Conservative party surviving if they continue to kowtow to thier extremist base.
edit on 13-8-2013 by Indigo5 because: (no reason given)


What is extremist about not wanting to be over taxed, left alone, and being able to take care of yourself and make your own decisions?



posted on Aug, 13 2013 @ 01:44 PM
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The right would like to legislate select Christian docterine, while disregarding Christian principles the same same way the Taliban would like


Oh really? What Christian principles are we talkin' 'bout here? Let's be specific please, because a vague generality is just an open door for an opinion without basis.

What kinds of Christian doctrine did you see as being attempted to legislate? Thall shalt not steal, thou shalt not murder both are examples of universal things that are legislated in most civilized countries. What ultimately is the difference between an illegal immigrant walking into a ranch house and raiding the fridge and commandeering the property or the government confiscating your paycheck for Obamacare?
Maybe it's the DOMA that bothers you. Interestingly, I'd like to know when in history legal marriage was ever defined as including same-sex. The one-man/one-woman definition also covers the polygamy problem, although even polygamy has been legal in countries where same-sex is not. Why does the liberal left feel they have a right to define all laws not just in America about worldwide? The liberal left feels they have a right to define gun laws, distribution of wealth(or redistribution I should say), how much of your paycheck you get to keep, whether or not an unborn baby gets to live, who gets hired at companies and who gets into Universities based on race, whether you get to use your own property for your own uses or whether the government gets to take it by eminent domain for some conservation wetlands project, and much more.
Someone is defining laws. Whoever said the Left gets the ultimate say so for everything?
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posted on Aug, 13 2013 @ 01:48 PM
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I read it earlier but not too sure if it gives a true answer it only says it May not give out info, I suppose if it had read Will not give out info, It would not confuse me as much.



posted on Aug, 13 2013 @ 01:49 PM
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Well, first off, thanks for at least acknowledging that there is a difference.

Progressivism is the real poison.

Bring back the GOP and DNC of 70 years ago, and I will agree that they need to work together.
As of right now, the only way people should be pushing towards is smaller and limited Govt, as with what we have now, humungous Govt stealing massive amounts from the people isn't working.


Libertarian all the way.
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posted on Aug, 13 2013 @ 01:50 PM
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the link goes to the first post in the thread...but it appears you did reply to the post i was talking about, thank you.

i can say for a FACT that i KNOW there are people getting disability monies who do not genuinely need them...that they went and got disability because they didn't feel like working anymore. that kind of thing needs to stop.

i mean, i mostly agree with everything you said, but as i said, i've seen instances of people with very minor ailments, get certified disabled, and live better than i do....it isn't right...

hell, i still can't find a job....it's been a little over a year now, and still nothing.....should i maybe try to get disability, based on the fact that i suffer from sciatica, migraines, and because i wear glasses?

could i live better? absolutely....would it be right? no, not really...

i mean honestly, who wouldn't rather NOT work for their money? but we need to NOT give in to that desire.....that, i think, is where a lot of the problems are...the fact that people KNOW they can go get money for nothing, so now they believe they don't really NEED to work, if they don't want to....

i dunno, it's all academic at this point...thanks again for replying.



posted on Aug, 13 2013 @ 01:53 PM
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Is the irony completely lost on you that you vehemently oppose protecting the neediest of the citizens, either guaranteeing their right to have their voices heard or through financial support, of your country all the while your avatar and signature line express your supposedly sincere love for Christ and your adherence to the Christian faith.

Doesn't the Good Book say that Christ said (paraphrasing, Sunday school was over 20 years ago at thing point) 'it's easier to fit a camel through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven,' and didn't He teach His apostles to forsake their worldly possessions and distribute them to the poor.

I'm no theologian, but I do believe in a historical Jesus - I'm not convinced he was the son of God or ever claimed to be, but I do believe that there was something extraordinary about the fella.



posted on Aug, 13 2013 @ 01:56 PM
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Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by neo96

Don't like the hijack excuse anyway because that is a cop out.


It's as generous as I can be with the Modern Conservative Party. It has been hijacked by the far-right extremists...who canabalize men like Chris Christie for failing the "Idealogical Purity" test.

I don't see the Conservative party surviving if they continue to kowtow to thier extremist base.
edit on 13-8-2013 by Indigo5 because: (no reason given)


In your mind, what constitutes extremism? Does holding a principle of any kind get this label or is it only things on the right that bug you, because I would tend to think that demanding an end to Capitalism is an extreme based in Communist ideals. Maybe you feel that ending abortions because every abortion is killing life is too extreme.
Are only people in the middle who cannot decide one way or the other the only ones to get your seal of approval? People who flip flop? People who accept abortion sometimes but not always? People who accept some kinds of social welfare but not corporate because personal welfare is somehow more righteous than corporate?
Or do you stand for allowing abortions because it is a woman's right but no Capital Punishment because serial killers deserve free food and lodging for multiple life sentences on the taxpayer dime?
I don't understand your ideas about what is extreme and what is mamby pamby middle of the road.



posted on Aug, 13 2013 @ 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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The right would like to legislate select Christian docterine, while disregarding Christian principles the same same way the Taliban would like


Oh really? What Christian principles are we talkin' 'bout here? Let's be specific please, because a vague generality is just an open door for an opinion without basis.


If the 'christian right' was truly like the Taliban wouldn't we just shoot the left ?

See that just shows how ridiculous that comment was even though they know better.
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posted on Aug, 13 2013 @ 02:01 PM
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Is the irony completely lost on you that you vehemently oppose protecting the neediest of the citizens, either guaranteeing their right to have their voices heard or through financial support, of your country all the while your avatar and signature line express your supposedly sincere love for Christ and your adherence to the Christian faith.


I just love how people view the lover of Christ as having the social responsibility for feeding and clothing people based on what the government decides. That is not a true teaching of Christ. It gets tiring reading this Christian Socialist nonsense over and over. And it is not charity. Charity by force is not charity but Totalitarian encroachment on Liberty.
Socialism negates the personal karmic return that is needed to teach the soul.



posted on Aug, 13 2013 @ 02:01 PM
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holy s**t...you are absolutely bloody insane!

i'm sorry mods, but i gotta call it like i see it...

there's no proof the signs are tea party people or not....that was my whole point, that there's no proof one way or the other, and that the picture you posted was irrelevant.....

and again, you implied i'm slow, stupid, or otherwise below your level of intelligence, because i do not agree with your views.....

you accuse me of being closed-minded, because i think differently...but it is you who is closed-minded, as you are STILL on the whole thing about "food assistance programs", when that is not what the goddamn thread is about....and you insist that i think people on welfare are stealing jobs.....when did i even imply that i might even entertain that notion? it's absurd, and so is your argument.



posted on Aug, 13 2013 @ 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by Monger
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Is the irony completely lost on you that you vehemently oppose protecting the neediest of the citizens, either guaranteeing their right to have their voices heard or through financial support, of your country all the while your avatar and signature line express your supposedly sincere love for Christ and your adherence to the Christian faith.

Doesn't the Good Book say that Christ said (paraphrasing, Sunday school was over 20 years ago at thing point) 'it's easier to fit a camel through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven,' and didn't He teach His apostles to forsake their worldly possessions and distribute them to the poor.

I'm no theologian, but I do believe in a historical Jesus - I'm not convinced he was the son of God or ever claimed to be, but I do believe that there was something extraordinary about the fella.


You must have missed the part where Jesus sent away the people who were only following Him around for the free meals.



posted on Aug, 13 2013 @ 02:48 PM
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Originally posted by NavyDoc

Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by neo96

Don't like the hijack excuse anyway because that is a cop out.


It's as generous as I can be with the Modern Conservative Party. It has been hijacked by the far-right extremists...who canabalize men like Chris Christie for failing the "Idealogical Purity" test.

I don't see the Conservative party surviving if they continue to kowtow to thier extremist base.
edit on 13-8-2013 by Indigo5 because: (no reason given)


What is extremist about not wanting to be over taxed, left alone, and being able to take care of yourself and make your own decisions?


Taxes?...it is when conservatives push for Under-Taxing the wealthy, giving ungodly subsidies to oil companies, tax-breaks to hedge fund investors, loop-holes to jet owners and demand the other 99% pay for it. Being over-taxed is not a conservative gripe...it is an American gripe...and who is left with the bill is the issue.

Left alone?....Like legislating what women do with thier own bodies? Or legislating who can get married?



posted on Aug, 13 2013 @ 02:51 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by neo96

Don't like the hijack excuse anyway because that is a cop out.


It's as generous as I can be with the Modern Conservative Party. It has been hijacked by the far-right extremists...who canabalize men like Chris Christie for failing the "Idealogical Purity" test.

I don't see the Conservative party surviving if they continue to kowtow to thier extremist base.
edit on 13-8-2013 by Indigo5 because: (no reason given)


In your mind, what constitutes extremism? Does holding a principle of any kind get this label or is it only things on the right that bug you, because I would tend to think that demanding an end to Capitalism is an extreme based in Communist ideals.


And I would tend to think that anyone who thinks the democratic party is "demanding an end to Capitalism" is a frothing at the mouth extremist. There-in lies the disconnect. Again...I don't need to rebut such claims...reality has and will continue to rebut it for me. Good luck with your Idealogical Jihad...I don't think it is going to turn out as you hope.
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posted on Aug, 13 2013 @ 02:58 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Maybe you feel that ending abortions because every abortion is killing life is too extreme.


I don't think that Abortion in the first 12 weeks is killing a human life...from that point forward the science is debatable IMO and until it is conclusive we should allow women to decide for themselves.


Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
People who accept some kinds of social welfare but not corporate because personal welfare is somehow more righteous than corporate?


I don't believe legal entities contrived to specifically be non-persons...without personal legal responsibility...should be categorized as "people". Strange that you see them of equal value as living, breathing human beings.


Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Or do you stand for allowing abortions because it is a woman's right but no Capital Punishment because serial killers deserve free food and lodging for multiple life sentences on the taxpayer dime?


I don't believe abortion is murder? I do believe in capital punishment?

You seem full of genuinely confusing premises and assumptions?
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posted on Aug, 13 2013 @ 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by Daedalus


there's no proof the signs are tea party people or not....that was my whole point, that there's no proof one way or the other,


And yet the far-right shows up in force to defend the sign? See...wether or not it was a TPer who created the sign...the lesson is how many folks on the "right" here or other places defend and even applaud the sign.



posted on Aug, 13 2013 @ 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
If the 'christian right' was truly like the Taliban wouldn't we just shoot the left?


You mean every nutjob that's shot up or planted a bomb at an abortion clinic? Was that who you were talking about?
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