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And yet your link is based on a study by the partisan American Enterprise Institute, a right wing org and a debunked, wholey skewed data-set from 2008.
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Did you guys find out the truth yet?
Is this true?
Amazing 25 pages over something that hasn't been verified.edit on 123131p://bTuesday2013 by Stormdancer777 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by neo96
The biggest difference between the left and right.
The left loves to demagogue the right on their religious views and they love to deify government
The biggest difference? The right would like to legislate select Christian docterine, while disregarding Christian principles the same same way the Taliban would like to legislate select Islamic docterine
while the left believes in actual democracy.
Republicans have moved so far right that don't even believe in a "republic" anymore.
.Thier economic ambitions have more in commen with China than the USA.
where corporations are coddled by government and the populace is exploited at slave labor wages to profit the few.
Originally posted by neo96
And comparing conservative to the Taliban is straight up intellectual dishonesty most people see that for what it is..
- Ideological purity
- Compromise as weakness
- A fundamentalist belief in scriptural literalism
- Denying science
- Unmoved by facts
- Undeterred by new information
- A hostile fear of progress
- A demonization of education
- A need to control women’s bodies
- Severe xenophobia
- Tribal mentality
- Intolerance of dissent
- A pathological hatred of the US government
They can call themselves the Tea Party. They can call themselves Conservatives. And they can even call themselves Republicans. Though Republican’s certainly shouldn’t. But we should call them what they are: The American Taliban. And the American Taliban cannot survive if Dorothy Cooper is allowed to vote.
Originally posted by Hefficide
reply to post by seabag
I continuously see these allusions to people living high on the hog with disability. You do realize that the average disability claim nets about seventeen grand a year. That is just above the poverty line for a family of two, and just below for a family of three.
Hardly the life of Riley.
Oh, and FTR - though I am currently in the process of getting disability ( four years and counting - thus proving it's not just something one signs up for and gets ) - I worked for well over thirty years with my diagnosis before my health finally deteriorated to the point where I no longer could work. In fact just leaving the house to go to the grocery store is an ordeal that sometimes takes days of build-up and work to manage.
These tales being told of late model luxury cars and frequently luxury vacations? I can't say that there might not be people who have figured out how to game the system... I can only say that my life is nothing like that at all. In fact I currently do not even own a car.
With that, I'm back out.
Originally posted by Hefficide
FWIW - the anger about the Tea Party association really isn't the fault of the OP - it's the fault of the person who wrote the article the OP is based upon. The OP used the same title - except he/she was polite enough to change it from "New Low for the Tea Baggers" to "New Low for the Tea Party".
Given that ATS, staff and members alike, tend to point out when threads are titled differently than their source material? I think a benefit of the doubt moment does exist here.
Originally posted by macman
reply to post by Indigo5
I love Progressive hit pieces about Conservative groups, and when those same groups go on to explain how those Conservative groups need to change to win elections.
Originally posted by Daedalus
Originally posted by SaturnFX
Can you prove to me that anyone in that group holding the signs is an actual patriot.
can you prove any of them aren't?
It seems you are saying we can no longer reasonably assume...there must be proof..maybe a video of them making it.
Assumptions are nearly NEVER acceptable.... and the only way your "reasonable assumption" works, is when stating an opinion...which is not what was done in the OP, and the article it linked to...they were stating that it was fact that it was done by a specific group of people, with no proof.
he brains at ATS decided this...
to whom are you referring, and what is it that they decided?
Incidently, can we be certain humans wrote the poem on the statue of liberty? is there a youtube video of humans doing it?
yes. because there are witnesses, and documentation....you know...that annoying stuff we mentioned before...proof...
I give up...you refuse to acknowledge how I said the letter is almost beside the point and should lead to a discussion, but some of you are too thick to comprehend that
so, nevermind..actually...I know who wrote the sign in ops. it was clearly baby hitler with help from demon aliens....because the tea party lubs welfare programs and never, ever would say anything bad about them.
i'm sorry..your argument is as laughable as your position, and really....implying i'm stupid because i don't believe what you believe, and because i actually require proof, or because i actually want to talk about the topic this thread is about, instead of "teh tea partee is soh mean, bekuz they wanna take away everebuddy's welfare", really is a lame tactic....
all it shows is that your position cannot, and does not hold up to scrutiny, and that you know it, but refuse to accept it.....because it's so much easier to stay on the baseless blame bandwagon..edit on 13-8-2013 by Daedalus because: (no reason given)