New low for the Tea Party

reply to post by seabag

Liberal isn't left? Are you trying to redifine politics again?

You can call her left, liberal, prog, marxist or whatever you'd like. It doesn't matter because they can all be summed up in three words……WRONG FOR AMERICA!

If Chicago, New York, Detroit and San Francisco (all left-leaning meccas) are the model for our country then we haven't seen misery yet - Give it time!

Not redefining, correcting ...again. Liberal is center.

reply to post by Kali74

Not redefining, correcting ...again. Liberal is center.

If you’re claiming LEFT is CENTER then you’re redefining.

If I asked you to grab your left ear would you grab your nose?

There is nothing CENTER about the Obama's! They fit more into the far left category like 'Soft-Socialism'.

reply to post by neo96

How About millions of Americans lower their standards about what a job is you know those 100 million on food aid.

They have. McJobs and Wal Mart's low low wages!

Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by Kali74

 

Not redefining, correcting ...again. Liberal is center.

If you’re claiming LEFT is CENTER then you’re redefining.

If I asked you to grab your left ear would you grab your nose?

There is nothing CENTER about the Obama's!

edit on 12-8-2013 by seabag because: (no reason given)

Well of course not to someone asked to grab their nose would grab the nose of the person 3 people to the left of them, otherwise known as people who got their political education from FOX.

ETA WTF kind of chart is that? LOL

how Low can WE , the Tea Party go, just keep watching us

reply to post by muse7

It seems that the Tea Party "patriots" have hit a new low, they are now going around neighborhoods posting lists on intersections of people on disability, food stamps and other welfare services.

It's just disability... What's it called when you when you lie in your OP? Do you just mark it up to sensationalizing, or piling it on. Does lieing help your cause? What about the people who just read what you posted and don't even know your lieing?

Do you know in the United States we have people who get disability from their job and they are not in fact disabled? I have seen shows on TV where insurance agent detectives record people fixing their roofs and such and are supposed to be disabled and can't walk. Fraud does indeed happen. People milking the Government teat because they can get away with it are part of the problem not the solution. Lieing to make your point doesn't help you.

reply to post by SaturnFX

But the difference in what is shown, is very large. First, the pic you showed, clearly states that it is supported by the Tea Party Patriots. There is no question as to the group in question and ultimately is a lot more believable than a picture of a piece of paper with no mention of Tea Party on it.

Any one can claim to be a member of a group, but to do something in a groups name, especially a political group, usually they like to announce such, rather than do such in the dark.

So if there can be something that is linking to the Tea Party group, it can be said that it is suspect at best. Here say is not permissible in a court of law, and if you are going to condemn or accuse a group of wrong doing, at least give them the same courtesy as if they were sitting in a court.

But beyond that, the question that should be first and foremost, is how did who ever printed this, put out private information and what else was compromised?

I think that the violation of private information should be more of concern for everyone than it being this or that political affiliation.

reply to post by Kali74

Well of course not to someone asked to grab their nose would grab the nose of the person 3 people to the left of them, otherwise known as people who got their political education from FOX.

RIGHT! A FOX NEWS jab!

I don’t watch FOX or any other MSM network. It's just a different flavor of Kool Aid.

You go ahead and have fun redefining what left is. I know lefties love to consider your filthy policies to be acceptable and center but to the rest of us it’s still left wing extremism. Your lefty policies are crushing this country yet you still look to the people who did this for answers on how to fix it!

Elect a small government libertarian then it will get fixed! It will be painful to many but you don't fix stupid without a little pain up front.

Originally posted by DERRUFO
how Low can WE , the Tea Party go, just keep watching us

Oh, so you found evidence that shows where this came from??

Do share! I hope the liberal rag the OP quoted isn't your proof!

Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by neo96

 

How About millions of Americans lower their standards about what a job is you know those 100 million on food aid.

They have. McJobs and Wal Mart's low low wages!

And ?

Know how many jobs I worked to make ends meet ?

2 12 hours a day 7 days a week and welfare never entered in to that equation.

Not once.

Did that for YEARS.

People think oh my job doesn't pay enough if they have one at all, and think they will go on welfare instead.

That dog doesn't hunt.

I wonder how many times I have to say fiat currency and corporate products are not the states responsibilty to provide before it will even sink in ?

Which is never reading this thread.

reply to post by muse7


Common ground is officially gone.

There is no limit to how low this administration, or it's followers will go.

I just simply refuse to bend over that far any more, Good luck down there you piece of dung.

reply to post by Kali74

Not redefining, correcting ...again. Liberal is center

What ?

The welfare industrial complex brought to us by 'liberal' is center ?

They are big government fascists that is anything but 'center'.

And yes someone is 'redefining'.

Originally posted by Indigo5
reply to post by muse7

 

....and Ben Franklin never said anything of the sort.

It was first MISS-Atributed to Franklen in 1988...

Later in 2000 it was MISS-Attributed to Alexander Tytler...a Scottish writer.

BUT...there are NO SOURCES showing the qoute linked to anyone before 1988...

It was political propaganda...manufactured for just the purpose it is used for.

Yeah, you're going to need to provide sources for that claim. 30 minutes of "Googling" has brought up nothing to support your claim.

Alexis Tocqueville once stated, "Democracy dies as soon as people realize they can vote themselves money." A Frenchman who favored the writings of Benjamin Franklin as they shared similar political philosophy. He went on to elaborate Franklin's statement: "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." First published in Democracy in America published in 1835.

Believe it or not, Franklin was NOT a supporter of Democracy and sought a better balance between Representative Republic and Parliamentary procedure.

So, there you go... I have provided proof that it is linked back to 1835 to Alexis Tocqueville who gives credit to Benjamin Franklin.

I could provide links... but now it's your turn to do YOUR Google homework.

Originally posted by F4guy

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by muse7

 

What proof is on that letter?

Other than a 'discerning' Liberal 'news' magazine that uses labels meant to be derogatory?

What proof?

Don't see a TPM header on it.

Don't see nothing on it proving authenticity.

edit on 11-8-2013 by neo96 because: (no reason given)

"Don't see nothing???" That translates to "do see something" since a double negative implies a positive. So, what is it that you do see?

so instead of actually discussing the topic, you choose to chime in for no other reason than to nitpick neo's s**tty grammar?

i really wish people would not choose to troll for stars, over contributing to the dialogue...

reply to post by muse7


I just reread the OP in search of more proof to back up the OP's claim and I came across this jewel.

We're not going to save this country by shaming and humiliating our fellow citizens. We're not going to save this nation by letting our poor starve and go without basic medical care. The people that chose to focus on these issues and ignore the larger ones are in my opinion ignorant. I'm not saying that we don't have people that abuse the system. What I'm getting at is, that we spend close to $900 BILLION in national defense, and god knows how much more money we send to other countries in foreign aid.

It reminded me of some great quotes from one of the smartest social theorist and economist of our time, Dr. Thomas Sowell.





In the context of this current discussion and so many others, isn’t it amusing that his quotes ring true every time? He must be on to something!!

reply to post by Daedalus

so instead of actually discussing the topic, you choose to chime in for no other reason than to nitpick neo's s**tty grammar?

My grammar is not crappy thank you very much I am just waiting for government to come redistribute syntax, and puncutation etc..



Because they do such a wonderful job with the welfare industrial complex.

reply to post by muse7
When all you can say is "it certainly looks like something the Tea Party would do" all your credibility goes down the drain with your hate filled rhetoric towards anyone that does not agree with your liberal agenda.

Most of the time liberals use articles that they can spin and take out of context to perpetrate there hate, YOU sir have reached a new low in fabricating something with no proof...............you are the new low.

Originally posted by UnifiedSerenity
What is going to sadly amazing is when the money stops all these freeloaders will suddenly be able to work! They will be able to violently riot and steal from those who have character and pride in contributing and making their way. Really disabled people tend to want to work, and do not want to live off of the system.

I remember when ADHD got a special SS disability and it probably still does. What these people don't realize is all of these will be called mentally disabled and have no right to own a gun. The systemic methods to take our freedoms have been built over decades and we are about to see the fruition of their efforts very soon when the crisis hits as planned!

yes, but you've forgotten....it's cool to not give a damn about basic human rights, protected by the constitution.....as long as you can get that check and not hafta go out and lower yourself to actually doing a job....

can't have that.....

Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by Kali74

 

Well of course not to someone asked to grab their nose would grab the nose of the person 3 people to the left of them, otherwise known as people who got their political education from FOX.

RIGHT! A FOX NEWS jab!

I don’t watch FOX or any other MSM network. It's just a different flavor of Kool Aid.

You go ahead and have fun redefining what left is. I know lefties love to consider your filthy policies to be acceptable and center but to the rest of us it’s still left wing extremism. Your lefty policies are crushing this country yet you still look to the people who did this for answers on how to fix it!

Elect a small government libertarian then it will get fixed!

It will be painful to many but you don't fix stupid without a little pain up front.

My filthy policies? Why is it that none (besides a scarce 2 or 3) of you right wingers on ATS can be civil? And please don't play like you don't listen to Beck or Rush or Hannity because you repeat their words as if they're gold. I wasn't making a jab at FOX just stating that a lot of this Liberal is Left comes from them and then is trickled down. It's repeated like a mantra!

I happen to know first hand that Liberal isn't Left, because I am Left and I don't particularly care for Liberalism as it supports Capitalism. I am also a Libertarian but I'm on the Left side where as you are a Right Libertarian.

Most liberals are just as unhappy with the policies that keep getting enacted as you are, yet you don't stop in your diatribe of filthy liberals long enough to consider that.

Have a good read on the political spectrum.

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