thanx, have u jined yet?

i'm glad there's at least one russian supporter in these forums, wow, so many american guys filled with american propaganda and bs

Yer I have, my name in that forum is SevernayA. You should join there doesn't seem to be many members, and your detailed post would be valued greatly.

For, mother Moldovia. I
love you very much

Morris with you idea

If you want to know abot the world's air-forces, buy a book of "jane's" it's called the world's fighters... It has detailed information and pictures of all the air-forces in the world...

Just because Russia might have plenty of aircraft it doesn't mean that they are a match for the US. The US has more advanced radars, avionics, and better training. Not too mention our aircraft are probably in better condition.

Lets just say, since the US defense budget is 7 times more than China, the US military should be 7 times better than China, right? Well, it isn't. It is at best only 2 times better than China, and if the Chinese decided to spend that much on their military, XXJ would be entering service now instead of J-10, but they decided to invest in their economy and improve the lives of their citizens. A good move

Lets just say, since the US defense budget is 7 times more than China, the US military should be 7 times better than China, right? Well, it isn't. It is at best only 2 times better than China,

Only 2 times better ? That's all I have to say for that.

Originally posted by WestPoint23

Lets just say, since the US defense budget is 7 times more than China, the US military should be 7 times better than China, right? Well, it isn't. It is at best only 2 times better than China,

Only 2 times better ? That's all I have to say for that.

yup only 2

The U.S spends now spends $68bil of it's defense budget on R&D. Then spends the rest on pay (recently increased), training, maintenance, rent, utilities, munitions/ammo, etc.

By they way the real U.S defense budget is like $410bil, with extra added on for funding operation in Iraq and Afghanistan. And lets not forget China spends $69 billion - $78 billion in 2001 dollars according to the RAND corp.

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Canada 7.8 bilion

In 2003 it was just $900 Million

Just because we spend 7 times more doesn't mean we should be 7 times greater. Of that $400 billion, let's say that $25 billion goes to combat ops for the war we're fighting, $75 billion goes to R&D, $125 billion goes to flight operations for the different services.... That's $225 billion right there. And for the record, I just pulled those numbers out of the air, they are NOT actual numbers nor are they intended to be. But you get the idea. Based on those numbers, that's over half of our budget right there for the year, and that's not even getting into paying the troops, and buying weapons and ammunition, or maintenance costs.

how much does america pay its soldiers..and all that money to maintain existing planes ships and tanks.. how much to maintain americans aircraft carriers

The pay for the troops varies by rank and specialty and varies from service to service. There's not really a number you can put up and say "This is how much we pay our troops." If you live off base, you get paid a little more to pay for your housing, if you're in a combat zone, you get paid more for hazardous duty etc.

The total life cycle cost of a US CVN aircraft carrier in millions is approximately 22,222 or about $22 billion dollars. Most CVNs will be in service for around 50 years however so that's a pretty good cost. The average ANNUAL cost for a CVN is approximately $444 million. That's as of 2000 so it's probably changed since then.

I thought the money to pay for the war is separate from the annual budget. Like when the president goes to congress and asks for 80B or 100B to pay for the wars that is separate form the annual budget.

I think it is. Like I said I was just pulling figures out of the air to make an example of why our budget is so much bigger than the rest of the world.

Originally posted by chinawhite

Originally posted by WestPoint23

Lets just say, since the US defense budget is 7 times more than China, the US military should be 7 times better than China, right? Well, it isn't. It is at best only 2 times better than China,

Only 2 times better ? That's all I have to say for that.

yup only 2

Do you even have any facts at all to back this up?