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How the Koch Bros and Big Tobacco started the Tea Party

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posted on Aug, 9 2013 @ 08:55 PM
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Originally posted by TDawgRex
Can you link this supposed website to the Koch Bros?
I don't believe everything the web tells me. Links please.


You really should read the opening post before you reply.

But, yet again, here it is.


Citizens for a Sound Economy (CSE) was a powerful industry-funded think tank, promoting deregulation. It was founded by Koch Industries interests and continues to maintain strong links. In 2003, an internal rift between CSE and its affiliated Citizens for a Sound Economy Foundation led to a split in which CSEF was renamed as a separate organization, called Americans For Prosperity.

Citizens for a Sound Economy

And if you noticed. In that pretty little picture you re-posted. It's by the CSE.

Next time. Please read the thread. Thanks.




posted on Aug, 9 2013 @ 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by xuenchen

And it was very clever of you to somehow screw up the link in your OP

You got the other links right, but not that one

Hmmm.


Thanks for bringing that up, I didn't know.

The link to the original Tea Party website does however work from the article.

Sorry for any confusion.



posted on Aug, 9 2013 @ 09:06 PM
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Here's some current lines to draw...


The fight to bring cheaper, clean energy to Georgia is uniting some unlikely allies. Renewable energy advocates and leaders of the Atlanta Tea Party are taking on utility giant Southern Co., and its subsidiary Georgia Power, over resisting the call to expand its development of solar energy.

As Debbie Dooley, co-founder of the Atlanta Tea Party explained in an interview with Climate Progress, the group’s interest in the debate is quite simple: “The free market has been one of the founding principles of the Tea Party since it began and a monopoly is not a free market.”

In Georgia — as in many states — utilities are granted a monopoly over the ability to sell power, which means that customers have no choice in where they get their electricity. A major provision of the monopoly is that Georgia Power act in the best interest of ratepayers, regulated by the Public Service Commission.
Tea Party Takes On Georgia Power Over Lack Of Solar Energy




On Thursday, the Georgia Public Service Commission will decide whether to require Georgia Power, the state’s sole investor-owned electricity provider, to significantly expand its use of solar energy. The fight to diversify the state’s power supply has united some unlikely bedfellows — namely, renewable energy advocates and leaders of the Atlanta Tea Party.

Tea Party members supporting the solar expansion see it as a simple free market issue. They believe consumers have the right to choose where their electricity comes from and shouldn’t be forced to remain dependent on a single source, especially in light of the rapidly declining cost of solar.

Despite the Tea Party’s support, Americans For Prosperity, a conservative group funded by the Koch brothers, came out against the proposed solar measure last week — launching what it calls “a multi-pronged, grassroots driven initiative” urging activists to pressure members of the PSC to reject the solar expansion.
Koch Brothers Fund Effort To Undermine Tea Party Support Of Solar Energy in Georgia



posted on Aug, 9 2013 @ 10:05 PM
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Originally posted by BritofTexas

Originally posted by TDawgRex
Can you link this supposed website to the Koch Bros?
I don't believe everything the web tells me. Links please.


You really should read the opening post before you reply.

But, yet again, here it is.


Citizens for a Sound Economy (CSE) was a powerful industry-funded think tank, promoting deregulation. It was founded by Koch Industries interests and continues to maintain strong links. In 2003, an internal rift between CSE and its affiliated Citizens for a Sound Economy Foundation led to a split in which CSEF was renamed as a separate organization, called Americans For Prosperity.

Citizens for a Sound Economy

And if you noticed. In that pretty little picture you re-posted. It's by the CSE.

Next time. Please read the thread. Thanks.


Ok, I missed that.

But it annoys me when people try to lump the Tea Party into a collective group. It's much more than that. Bashing the Tea Party in my opinion means supporting the status quo. I don't support that at all.

Saying the Tea Party are all the same is like saying all Democrats are progressives. Of course it seems like nowadays they are, but I think that's the MSM putting out the talking points.

I think that you may be playing into the progressives hand. If not actively supporting it. I'll always resist tyranny.



posted on Aug, 9 2013 @ 10:17 PM
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I don't believe everything the web tells me. Links please.


Especially from a website that is funded by Soros such as the Huf Po.

That pushes the AGENDA opposite of the TPM.



posted on Aug, 9 2013 @ 11:30 PM
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Speaking as a Tea Party Member, I must tell you how spot on you are!

When we visit Dick Cheney and drink virgin blood from the skull of Abby Hoffman, we then do jello shots off the stomachs of FOX NEWS babes and play beer pong with John Stossel.




posted on Aug, 10 2013 @ 02:31 AM
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No idea what that Huffington Post article is trying to accomplish.

The ideals of smaller government and lower/no taxes have been around since the 16th Amendment was(n't) ratified.

But most recently, it was a movement by Ron Paul supporters who were sick of the big government, big spending policies under Bush.

The movement was hijacked and portrayed as some type of anti-Obama group. Quite the opposite.

Also from 2007:

Ron Paul's tea party for dollars.


"This basically shows that Ron Paul is a viable candidate," said Rachael McIntosh, a spokeswoman for what was dubbed Boston TeaParty07. "People are so engaged in this campaign because it’s coming from the grass-roots."

His supporters are unusually enthusiastic. Today, one waved a yellow "Don't Tread on Me" flag on Beacon Street in front of the State House while a dozen others clutched "Ron Paul" placards in the sleet.

Supporters also re-enacted the dumping of tea in Boston Harbor, by tossing banners that read "tyranny" and "no taxation without representation" into boxes that were placed in front of an image of the harbor.







posted on Aug, 10 2013 @ 02:49 AM
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Originally posted by gladtobehere









I SO was looking for that vid!




posted on Aug, 10 2013 @ 02:49 AM
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I bet they control the tea party , try telling a Billionair he cant get something...

Political motivated my @ss , they just do this so they have enough power to bend the rules and further expand their corporate empire.

They dont have to do politics , they own politics.

They Foam in the mouth as soon as some one says NO to them.

Rich people who care...yeah right , what dimension did i wake up this morning.

TheGreazel.



posted on Aug, 10 2013 @ 06:34 AM
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There is Corporate America, mega giants who make a living sucking dry the people and there is everyday Americans themselves.

The groups will never meet.

These two groups have each chosen the political party they would like to be affiliated with. "The People" get the Democrats by default - because they do not generally represent Corporate interest. Of course the corporations have TONNES of money or they would not be able to buy their own political party (the Republicans - doing a good job too, just got them status as "people") to represent their interests.

People would catch on of course, but through deception, creative advertising, packaging and lies, that can only be spread with a lot of money and props like people with assembly line signs (ie the fossil fuel industry is behind naming global warming a hoax - they even bought a handful of "scientists" to do it. Retirees who were on pensions and needing cash from their thankless jobs) they're getting away with it.
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posted on Aug, 10 2013 @ 08:36 AM
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There is Corporate America, mega giants who make a living sucking dry the people and there is everyday Americans themselves.


That's because both need each other to survive. The worker needs the job and the company needs the labor. Until the point that the laborer demands enough that he puts himself out of a job because it would be less expensive to purchase tech to do the job a human laborer once did.



posted on Aug, 10 2013 @ 08:41 AM
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Anybody with half a brain should understand... Obama started the modern tea party. Duh!



posted on Aug, 10 2013 @ 10:02 AM
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Koch brothers are hardly any threat with a million donated to the Tea Party, which was originally non partisan and a movement to end the fed.

The real threat is Goldman Sachs who donated hundreds of millions to Obama and looted America in bailouts.



posted on Aug, 10 2013 @ 10:30 AM
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An interesting documentary,




posted on Aug, 11 2013 @ 02:49 PM
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RON PAUL STARTED THE TEA PARTY

There is no Koch Bros or conservative movement.



posted on Aug, 11 2013 @ 03:38 PM
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I love it when progressives provide progressive based articles, it is the word of God.
When conservatives provide conservative based articles, it is as if the devil himself wrote such a thing.


I also do love it when progressive offer conservatives "advise". Such a lovely show of friendship.



posted on Aug, 11 2013 @ 05:25 PM
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The koch donated a measly million to the Tea Party. Obama gots hundreds of millions from Goldman Sachs who looted America in bailouts. Who is the bigger threat?
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posted on Aug, 11 2013 @ 05:31 PM
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From a 2010 article in The Guardian about the Kochs involvement.


Over the next 20 years, they funnelled around $13m to Citizens for a Sound Economy. In 2004, the organisation split into Americans for Prosperity and FreedomWorks,



A day after CNBC's Rick Santelli launched his on-air howl against Obama's mortgage bailout plan, AFP and Freedom Works put up Facebook pages and began organising events around the country. The Tea Party was under way.

Tea Party movement: Billionaire Koch brothers who helped it grow

Once you start digging, the evidence is not only astounding, but also easy to find.




posted on Aug, 11 2013 @ 07:41 PM
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Originally posted by burdman30ott6
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Yes, because Lord knows anyone who detests the socialist direction this country is trending towards and is sick and tired of having a sore ass from getting rolled by the IRS every year is clearly being manipulated by the Kochs and (Oh my God, look!!! What's that?!?!?!) BIG TOBACCO.



Simple truth: The more the left lambasts, mocks, and disparages the Tea Party, the stronger our resolve about the necessity of having the Tea Party will become. The mere fact that it clearly scares the hell out of the leftists as badly as it does shows that it is a clear threat to an agenda... which is what the movement was about all along, stopping the agenda of the middle class bankrolling the rest of this hellhole of a nation.


I think you meant fascist not socialist - or maybe you just don't know what socialism (or fascism for that matter) mean.



posted on Aug, 12 2013 @ 08:35 AM
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So, let me get this straight.

People are supposed to be outraged over the Tea Party, because it received funding from an industry?

How about this. Why not use your rage on the groups you align yourself with, like I don't know, every group funded by Soros.

Maybe, just maybe, you should spend more time cleaning up YOUR own backyard, before you go knocking on your neighbors door.


Typical Progressives. It is okay for them to receive funding from Industries and an individual that has brought down a few economies, yet it is the actions of Satan himself if Conservative groups get some funding from an industry.


It is always different for Progressives.



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