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How the Koch Bros and Big Tobacco started the Tea Party

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posted on Aug, 9 2013 @ 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by Kali74
I think the Koch's did hijack a faction of the Tea Party, maybe even planted the seeds long ago... but there's also a faction that truly is grassroots and while I may agree with little they espouse, they have been found to be immune to co-opting and I admire that.


This is WHY I respect you Kali.





posted on Aug, 9 2013 @ 04:03 PM
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Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by xuenchen
 


OP is lumping ALL of them into a Koch Bros soup.

Cigarette flavored.





One of the stronger and seemingly legitimate groups is Tea Party Patriots

But even they are made up of state and local affiliated groups.

I think they are doing the most to attempt a national movement.


The Tea Party is Kool
"Compilation of Kool Cigarette commercials from 1960s"



posted on Aug, 9 2013 @ 04:04 PM
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Big Oil + Big Tobacco + Think tank
What could possibly go wrong?



posted on Aug, 9 2013 @ 04:27 PM
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reply to post by BritofTexas
 


Well, I would imagine a billionaire would support the formation of a group that's purpose is to end a federal confiscatory progressive tax structure and push for a return to Constitutional Federalism.
The "TEA" in the Tea Party stands for "Taxed Enough Already". And even if this is true who STARTED the first TEA Party movement, in 2009 it exploded around the nation into a massive grassroots movement from people from both parties who are disillusioned with the the Establishment politicians and policies in both political parties.



posted on Aug, 9 2013 @ 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by sonnny1
 


Thought it was Paul too guess the only good billionaires, are the Soros kind pushing political agendas.

How dare those evil Koch Brothers !
edit on 9-8-2013 by neo96 because: (no reason given)


*coughWarrenBuffet&BillGatescough*

Pardon me.



posted on Aug, 9 2013 @ 04:30 PM
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I can tell you who started the tea party movement.It wasn't the Koch brothers. It wasn't big tobacco.

The simple answer is Barak Obama started the tea party. The tea party was started to stop his anti-constitutional agenda.

In reality if Obama was true to the office that he was elected to the tea party wouldn't even exist.

All the tea party is or ever has been is patriots standing up to a traitorous government. Without the Traitor in chief
you wouldn't need the tea party!



posted on Aug, 9 2013 @ 04:58 PM
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The simple answer is Barak Obama started the tea party. The tea party was started to stop his anti-constitutional agenda.


funny yet a good theory.

Another connected theory.....

It certainly is possible that many 'tea party' affiliates may in fact be shill groups for the Left Wing.

Those may be the ones who stage events that throw mud at the Tea Party ideas by staging negative side shows.



posted on Aug, 9 2013 @ 05:07 PM
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Please point out these right wing threads that you speak of. All I have been reading on ATS as of late is Leftist progressive socialist crap.

It would be nice to read some right wing threads for a change.



posted on Aug, 9 2013 @ 05:09 PM
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Originally posted by xuenchen
reply to post by Diisenchanted
 



The simple answer is Barak Obama started the tea party. The tea party was started to stop his anti-constitutional agenda.


funny yet a good theory.

Another connected theory.....

It certainly is possible that many 'tea party' affiliates may in fact be shill groups for the Left Wing.

Those may be the ones who stage events that throw mud at the Tea Party ideas by staging negative side shows.




That's already been proven.

Remember that yabohead who had Nazi and White Superemist crap at a Tea Party and the it turns out that he was in the echolons of his town Democratic Party?

If I remember correctly, he was chased out.



posted on Aug, 9 2013 @ 06:56 PM
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This thread seems to have put the cat amongst the pigeons

Not seen any evidence to suggest the Tea Party was not created in 2002 by the Koch brothers though..

I wonder why



posted on Aug, 9 2013 @ 07:10 PM
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reply to post by BritofTexas
 


Probably because this has all been hashed over before. You think your opinion is new? It is the same old liberal crap as before. The only difference is the liberal poster.

ATS link

We actually have more important liberal issues to pay attention to right now. Like Bengasi IRS NSA I could go on and on.

You might want to look at the corruption within your own party before defending their disinformation agenda.

The thread posted above is a much more informative thread. Like I said you've brought nothing new.
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posted on Aug, 9 2013 @ 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by Carreau
Koch brothers bad. What does the OP think of these billionaires:

Soros
Buffett
Turner


BTW David Koch has donated over 2 million dollars to democrats.

If BIG tobacco is bad, is SMALL tobacco good?
edit on 9-8-2013 by Carreau because: (no reason given)


Only conservative billionaires can be evil just like only white people can be racist...



posted on Aug, 9 2013 @ 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by BritofTexas
This thread seems to have put the cat amongst the pigeons

Not seen any evidence to suggest the Tea Party was not created in 2002 by the Koch brothers though..

I wonder why



Logical answer to a tainted question .....

Probably because the Koch Bros didn't !!

Who exactly ARE those guys anyway ?



posted on Aug, 9 2013 @ 07:22 PM
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Originally posted by BritofTexas
This thread seems to have put the cat amongst the pigeons

Not seen any evidence to suggest the Tea Party was not created in 2002 by the Koch brothers though..

I wonder why


Did you seriously expect to have a honest discussion with this bunch? It's just deflection after deflection george soros evil!

S&F good read though



posted on Aug, 9 2013 @ 07:50 PM
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Originally posted by muse7

Did you seriously expect to have a honest discussion with this bunch? It's just deflection after deflection george soros evil!

S&F good read though


No. I didn't expect an honest discussion.

However I did expect a semblance of rebuttal evidence, but they can't even find that.

That's how thin the Tea Party veil is.



posted on Aug, 9 2013 @ 08:21 PM
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To you and Muse7.

Are we really that different? Are we who disagree with you so different that you would do away with us?

If that is the case...be prepared to fight. I can think for myself and don't need no mindless drone to tell me how to think.

God help me, I'm starting to think that this conflict needs to happen.



posted on Aug, 9 2013 @ 08:23 PM
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Originally posted by BritofTexas

Originally posted by muse7

Did you seriously expect to have a honest discussion with this bunch? It's just deflection after deflection george soros evil!

S&F good read though


No. I didn't expect an honest discussion.

However I did expect a semblance of rebuttal evidence, but they can't even find that.

That's how thin the Tea Party veil is.


Oh, and by the way...you provided nothing whatsoever to the discussion.

Try, try try again.


Talk about thin!



posted on Aug, 9 2013 @ 08:38 PM
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Originally posted by TDawgRex
Oh, and by the way...you provided nothing whatsoever to the discussion.


Again.

Look at the date.



As to your previous post. You'll have to extrapolate.



posted on Aug, 9 2013 @ 08:43 PM
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Originally posted by BritofTexas

Originally posted by TDawgRex
Oh, and by the way...you provided nothing whatsoever to the discussion.


Again.

Look at the date.



As to your previous post. You'll have to extrapolate.


Can you link this supposed website to the Koch Bros?

I don't believe everything the web tells me. Links please.



posted on Aug, 9 2013 @ 08:54 PM
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You ignore the fact that your website doesn't reflect the Tea Party today in whatever context you are suggesting.

Do some research on all the other factions and post some current comparisons.

You might be surprised to see who they really are.

Draw some straight lines to genuine Tea Party activity today to people today.

And it was very clever of you to somehow screw up the link in your OP

You got the other links right, but not that one

Hmmm.



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