Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by Visitor2012
I agree. The programming being done here is in direct violation of basic common law, thou shalt not harm, and constitutionally.
"Do no harm" is not "common law" at all so I'm not sure how this idea would go..or how far it could be implemented without force...as to LIVE is to
harm. It's just part of the human experience. Telling ppl to do no harm is like saying go flap your arms and you will fly..not very useful or
This (imo) is why forgiveness exists at all in the human experience. Because we know we will
do harm, we know we do
do it, even when we
The way I see it is that somewhere along the line, some smart ppl figured out that ' thou shall not harm' was specious reasoning. More, it wasn't
getting us anywhere but stuck in a loop of revolving crap and diminishing returns.It was a tool of controlling people by fear, through their pain,
when what we really needed was a way to overcome this pain and the many forms of pain/shame/injustice/grief/sickness that causing harm creates -aka
we needed a way to free ourselves of the cumulative weight of harm, to and on our consciousness, consciences and human spirit.
Everyone seems to want to move on and for the world to move forward....yet they don't seem to know how to do that or don't want to let go their bias
long enough to apply the tools that make moving on possible because the source of that information or tool is anathema to whatever it is they want to
keep. They want to keep their pain, or whatever it is they are holding on to, so they would prefer to attack the messenger in avoidance of applying
the message, even to see if the tool provided might actually work! A sad thing really especially for those calling themselves 'free' people or '
For me, to forgive IS to begin the process of moving forward....its as simple and as difficult as that. And in doing so - I 'repented' - which is
basically a euphemism for ' I stopped sitting in my sh*t'.
So by stilling my pride and ego, engaging my intellectual curiosity, applying the knowledge and message of forgiveness, just as it was written by
religious people, I became able
to "turn away" ( which is what repent simply means) from my sh*t and what I had done as well as what I
I had done, and stopped being myopic and self focused, and I moved on to focus my energy elsewhere.
In this sense, what the bible says is true for me, even though I am not a christian or religious person....in that forgiveness was a gift to my
growing mind for just that reason..it did what it said it would - enabled me to move forward, when I apply it. What was written, the religions axiom
that " the truth will set you free"..is therefore also proven to me - as when I applied forgiveness as a truth, which meant I acted on it as fact, not
just lip serviced it, I did become free.
This interpretation of the scripture, how
I choose to believe and practice a thing, worked really well for me..its simple..logical...and I have
applied it so I know it works for me. Who are you to say this is 'wrong'? Who would you be if you drugged me as a fundi for believing this way and
sharing the results of that action on belief earnestly with others? I am not "preaching Christianity' or a "religion' at all....I'm just saying hey
this new tool in my toolbox of how to cope with being human actually worked!
Who do you think you are,or will become if you then force me by edict and politic to not
educate my children that this tool is available to
If you do plan on imposing on the inalienable rights of others to think and believe how
they wish or may need to for their lives, you sure as
hell better be 100% sure that you know exactly what form that ' how to' expresses itself from all 7 billion or so human perspectives first,and have a
good argument as to why all those forms are wrong. Then you will need to know for certain via testing examination and application, that your HOW to
think and believe really is a better way than every one else's HOW to.
You had also better be prepared for the consequences of playing god in the lives of billions of confused people who already knew their "how to" was
right for them, innately, and be prepared to be
god for those who have been forced to ignore that innate wisdom because you acting all godly
demanded they do.
The reality is, that you wont find the truth of which is the best HOW to for you or anyone else, by drugging or debasing the voices of those whose
HOW to is different to yours....only by letting go of your own fear, getting of your high horse and asking the question personally. If you want to be
a masochist and sit in your sh*t and pain..go for it! Just don't expect others to join you there willingly. We've already learned how to change our
The only thing I can claim as a person, is that my 'how to', works for me..what form 'how to' takes for you..is none of my business..aka ..I stopped
_my_ fearing, walked _my_ talk and the result for me was that moving forward, became physically and literally possible and not just a concept I
There is another old saying of religions that works really well when in confronting and combating ignorance within our self and the world..that is : '
take the log out of your own eye before you point out the splinters in anothers'.
Try it ..apply it for a time..then maybe you can play god if you're still convinced of your rightness..
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