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Originally posted by BlueMule
I realize that all this will rub many people the wrong way. Obviously it won't appeal to most UFO enthusiasts, who take the ET mythos literally.
Originally posted by Cuervo
reply to post by BlueMule
I never thought of "anti-tulpa". This is nuts. It totally fits into my beliefs, too, so there is no reason I have never explored it as a possibility other than I just simply never thought of it. Raising tulpas and harvesting spirit is dabbling in creation so why wouldn't there be an opposing force aside from good ole' entropy?
Thanks for this thread. It's a good thing for my brain to chew on today.
Originally posted by ImpactoR
I will have to disappoint you OP but the explanations you describe can account for most likely the so called 'abductions' and there are cases where people have been injured by such objects and you don't get injured by imagined objects, that is unless you want to add some fictional theory from movies where someone creates things with imagination and they enter the reality, for which of course you have no tangible evidence, therefore your theory could account for a small part of the cases.
Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pondered, weak and weary, Over many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore,
Originally posted by Baddogma
reply to post by ImpactoR
To play devil's advocate, that "fictional from a movie" idea that ideas become "real" is a tad older than movies. The whole idea is that the universe we are in is a reactive mass of conscious energy... and it isn't without validation if one digs a bit.
Four outta five Tibetan monks can't be wrong!
Originally posted by FyreByrd
Care to tell where to dig? Or just your thought, with enough others it will become real.
Originally posted by EarthCitizen23
The "Box" was rectangular and BLACK like No black I have seen before, it seemed to absorb light so no reflections appeared as it was southwest of me and the sun was shining. There were No windows, nor seams or any obvious signs of where one entered this craft. I understood it to be Interdimensional and of a Time machine type device
Originally posted by EarthCitizen23
reply to post by covertpanther
Thank you CovertPanther, I look forward to many interesting conversations in the future with you as I can tell we are on similar wavelengths regarding much.
I really like some of the questions you pose in your posts and think along your line of reasoning myself.
Like the part about WHERE ARE WE IN TERMS OF SELF...
I usually answer this with NOW.
Now is the pivotal junction that leads us to the point that bifurcates into an infinity of worlds in the ALL WORLDS theory. I tend to accept this as fact and have done many experiments along this line of thinking.
I call one such exercise, CHANGING THE UNIVERSE, and it has led me to this point in time and seems to be a viable avenue of travel between the 'worlds' as it is. Basically quantum physics of Vibrations,, ALL VIBRATES,, so any ONE object can affect the WHOLE,, so with some INTENT one can STEER oneself into alternate 'worlds' by only changing ONE THING in this World... but that is another topic....lol
Cheers and thanks for the compliments
Originally posted by mbkennel
What about this hypothesis. Assume the ETs are physically real and they come here on warp drives. The physics of the warp drives could cause very strong AC magnetic fields in the people's brains, which are known to have strong psychological effects. In other words, warp drive caused hallucinations.
Conveniently enough for ET 'examiners' this phenomenon could be used intentionally by ET as a safe, non-invasive tranquilizer when dealing with potentially aggressive homo sapiens, no overdose or allergy worries.
One of the first to explore the notion of mythology manifesting as physical reality was psychoanalyst Carl Jung, who in 1957 published the book Flying Saucers: A Modern Myth of Things Seen in the Sky. More recently, authors Jacques Vallee (Dimensions: A Casebook of Alien Contact) and Keith Thompson (Angels and Aliens: UFOs and the Mythic Imagination) and folklorists Peter Rojcewicz and Thomas Bullard have written about the parallels among UFOs, folklore, and mythology.
“Space-Age myth” does not imply that UFO sightings or encounters with angels, aliens, fairies, sprites, elves, or demons are fantasies. Rather, it suggests that some of these experiences may literally be psychophysical, blurring conventional boundaries between objective and subjective realities. Some may object that this proposal doesn’t account for the physical traces associated with some UFO reports, but this misinterprets what Jung and others have proposed. They suggest that the manifest world emerges from mind, that is, that mind shapes matter.
Where have we heard this before?
In his book Global Mind Change, former IONS President Willis Harman discussed three basic ways of looking at the world. He called the current Western scientific worldview “materialistic monism,” or “M1.” Within M1,everything—both matter and energy— is made of a single substance. From matter emerges everything, including the brain-generated illusion called mind. In M1, angels and aliens walking through walls are fine plot points for an episode of The Twilight Zone, but they are impossible in the real world. In M1, UFOs are conceivable, but only in terms of hard, physical spacecraft with humanoid pilots. Most of the modern technological world was created based on M1 assumptions, so it carries enormous persuasive power. But the whole panoply of noetic experiences defy materialistic explanations, suggesting that M1 is an incomplete worldview.
Detailed taxonomies of these anomalies are described by all cultures; they include, among others, the Hindu siddhis, the Catholic charisms, Sufi attainments, and, in indigenous societies, shamanic magic.
Harman’s second worldview, M2, represents dualism, which assumes two fundamentally different kinds of substances in the universe, matter and mind. Many scientists today reject dualism because it begs the problem of how two deeply different substances could interact at all. In addition, it seems lavish to require the universe to maintain (at least) two distinct essences, when it would be far simpler to have only one.
The third worldview, M3, is transcendental or mental monism, which Harman argued is the source of both the perennial wisdom and the emerging worldview of the twenty-first century. In M3, consciousness is primary, and matter and energy are emergent properties of consciousness. M3 accommodates everything that M1 and M2 allow for, as well as rogue phenomena like telepathic ETs, observation-shy UFOs, and collective mind–manifested UFOs. Evidence in favor of M3 has been slowly amassing for over a century.
Our psychic ability transcends time and space. It doesn't travel through space-time like energy does. It penetrates them. It doesn't diminish over great distances like energy does. Barriers of matter, space, or time can't stop it.
Originally posted by Baddogma
reply to post by Plotus
Well, in the spirit of the OP, then your expectations of failure would create ... wait for it... failure!
I was with you with the magick is hooey mind set for many years, until I saw an unequivocal demonstration by a loved one that mind over matter is possible.
This stuff is usually subtle and one has to factor in opposing thoughts in the swirling chaos of mind stuff... but there does seem to be validity to it, as asinine as some practitioners come across. IMO, as always.