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posted on Aug, 6 2013 @ 10:55 AM
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Hello everyone, my name is Ruben, I'm a 22 year old guy born and living in Monterrey, Mexico. I'm 1 year away from getting an economics bachelor degree, my main interests are finance, economics, politics, UFOS, and of course all the shady things that occur around the first 3 mentioned subjects (which in Mexico we are very familiar with).

I have been reading you guys for about 1 year and half but I finally decided to take the time to share my opinion from time to time. I consider myself a very straight person, I hate corruption, I had a near death experience related to the crime caused by the cartels war, which made me open my mind in many senses. I believe I can be of help when it comes to posts about things that involve the mexican government, cartels, earthquakes in Mexico and more stuff.

Well I don't know what else to say lol, see guys around.



posted on Aug, 6 2013 @ 11:04 AM
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saludos bien venido!
enjoy the company and have fun.

hasta luego don.



posted on Aug, 6 2013 @ 11:08 AM
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Glad you joined

enjoy your stay
Peace and love
-nat the blue eyed cat-



posted on Aug, 6 2013 @ 11:13 AM
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Hello there ruben and welcome to ATS.

I've been to Monterrey once or twice, some great graffiti art out there.
How are things around the area? Been calm lately?


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posted on Aug, 6 2013 @ 11:59 AM
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Thanks for the welcome guys.


Originally posted by ElOmen
Hello there ruben and welcome to ATS.

I've been to Monterrey once or twice, some great graffiti art out there.
How are things around the area? Been calm lately?


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Hey there, yeah In some ways things have been more calm, organized crime-related murders have diminished, mainly because the more aggressive ones (zetas) are the ones getting killed the most I believe...and you may also see the military or the mexican marines from times to times driving around the city. People is more confident about going out in the night and getting home late, although there are still some crimes that cartel members use to get funds such as kidnapping or car stealing, but all in all things are a little better.



posted on Aug, 6 2013 @ 03:00 PM
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Hello and welcome!



posted on Aug, 6 2013 @ 03:18 PM
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not to nit pick but....

from what I understand the murders were between cartels. Kidnapping is not something cartels do for money....they sell drugs...plenty of money there.

kidnappers are usually killed by organized crime so as to win public support or win over local police. While a cartel may kidnap someone it is to kill their rivals or get even with them or to intimidate their own members.

Also the violence was because of rival cartels competing since Mexico was having big elections and so everyone was vying for power at the same time. Once the elections ended the mass killing stopped as well...

sorry my wife is Mexican and I have been there a few times..I also have many Mexican friends....I am not implying you were lying I just heard it different is all...have a good one.
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posted on Aug, 6 2013 @ 03:30 PM
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Hello and welcome to ya. Enjoy the ride.



posted on Aug, 6 2013 @ 08:56 PM
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Great opening salvo, Ruben. I sincerely look forward to your posts and picking your mind.


I bet a thread that helped us understand the cartels and what's going on down there would be a GREAT topic for your first!



posted on Aug, 6 2013 @ 10:40 PM
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Hola from Mexico!

For now. I'm in Tulum right now for my vacation! Back to Canada in 3 days. Buenos notches!

Oh, uno cervaza, por fa vor. No, dos!



posted on Aug, 6 2013 @ 11:23 PM
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Hey, it's alright I understand your point of view, I will try to be more specific this time,



from what I understand the murders were between cartels. Kidnapping is not something cartels do for money....they sell drugs...plenty of money there. kidnappers are usually killed by organized crime so as to win public support or win over local police. While a cartel may kidnap someone it is to kill their rivals or get even with them or to intimidate their own members.


This would be true 10 years ago (10 years is just an example) when all cartels worked in their own territory and didn't have trouble with each other, this would be true in an "ideal cartel world" (ideal for people), but it's not like that anymore. And I am not saying this in general, I only say it because the existance of the scumbags that call themselves Zetas, they were the hitmen of Cartel del Golfo and they were not a very large group, but then in 2009 they split ways with cartel del golfo and went indepent, they knew the business and wanted their share, that's why Monterrey became so violent, being a big city and conected to some MEX-US borders it was an strategic point to control. That's why around 2010 you would watch in the news people getting killed almost on a daily basis, of course we all knew the ones getting killed were only cartels members, but Zetas expanded a lot and recruited a lot more of relentless and souless motherf...these people burned a casino and killed around 60 innocents just because the casino's owner wasnt paying the "monthly fee" which is an extorsion (this case was the most sadistic, but they also made killings in bad reputation bars where rivals would gather, killing innocent people at the same time), which was very common at the time, even in groceries stores or small restaurants they would arrive at tell you to pay a certain amount of money or else they would just kill you or your family, oh and they stick to their words many times. Zetas started to lose, they eventually were losing control, they were killed constantly but they were A LOT...a lot of very very low rank members just doing whatever they want because people were scared and people were scared of police too. Man I have no reason to lie, I dont speak from what I see in the news (actually the local media made a deal with the gvt to reduce the organized crime news supposedly to not create more fear, yeah right), I speak from what we, the people that live here see and know, we protect ourselves, we tell each other what is really going on, this includes kidnapping. The zetas do whatever to get funds cause they are getting out of control, they are losing, the government is allied with Cartel del Golfo and and Sinaloa's Cartel (el chapo guzman) to dissapear the zetas, they are ruthless animals who seem to not have a conscience.

So yeah man, zetas (which are a cartel too) will do ANYTHING including kidnapping and extorsion (the call it "floor rights") to get money because they are running out of it. And look, again, I'm not talking in general, the upper rank Zeta members are still doing the big drug business like you see in Breaking Bad and # and making ridicously amounts of money out of it, but Im talking about the pawns and regional leaders.



Also the violence was because of rival cartels competing since Mexico was having big elections and so everyone was vying for power at the same time. Once the elections ended the mass killing stopped as well... sorry my wife is Mexican and I have been there a few times..I also have many Mexican friends....I am not implying you were lying I just heard it different is all...have a good one.


The heavy violence started around 3 years before the big elections, the 2 big parties (PRI and PAN) are both anti-Zetas, tha'ts why they have captured the 2 biggest Zetas in the last months, what they are really fighting for is for the north-eastern states of Mexico. And yeah about your friends, I don't think no one here wants to tell visitors how "dangerous" our city is hehe, and actually it is not anymore, to date you need to have bad luck in order for something bad happen to you, I also had visitors from the U.S a month ago and we went out like nothing was wrong and they were very happy with everything, better times are coming I hope


You have a good one too!

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posted on Aug, 7 2013 @ 12:09 AM
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posted on Aug, 7 2013 @ 12:13 AM
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Welcome to ATS Ruben, seems like you have an interesting perspective, will look out for your posts. I have seen plenty of threads about the things going on in Mexico, but haven't seen an in depth first person account of how it is there, such as your above post. Stay safe and have a good one.
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posted on Aug, 8 2013 @ 12:47 PM
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Welcome to the family I'm new to the site myself.
But have been following them for a while.
If your into breaking news headlines follow me on here an twitter.
@LAFRESH7 on twitter or LAFREEDOM on here.
BREAKING THE NEWS BEFORE ITS NEWS.



posted on Aug, 8 2013 @ 04:54 PM
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Hey there!



posted on Aug, 11 2013 @ 12:36 AM
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Hello & Welcome... enjoy your stay....




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