reply to post by tadaman
Hey, it's alright I understand your point of view, I will try to be more specific this time,
from what I understand the murders were between cartels. Kidnapping is not something cartels do for money....they sell drugs...plenty of money there.
kidnappers are usually killed by organized crime so as to win public support or win over local police. While a cartel may kidnap someone it is to kill
their rivals or get even with them or to intimidate their own members.
This would be true 10 years ago (10 years is just an example) when all cartels worked in their own territory and didn't have trouble with each other,
this would be true in an "ideal cartel world" (ideal for people), but it's not like that anymore. And I am not saying this in general, I only say it
because the existance of the scumbags that call themselves Zetas, they were the hitmen of Cartel del Golfo and they were not a very large group, but
then in 2009 they split ways with cartel del golfo and went indepent, they knew the business and wanted their share, that's why Monterrey became so
violent, being a big city and conected to some MEX-US borders it was an strategic point to control. That's why around 2010 you would watch in the news
people getting killed almost on a daily basis, of course we all knew the ones getting killed were only cartels members, but Zetas expanded a lot and
recruited a lot more of relentless and souless motherf...these people burned a casino and killed around 60 innocents just because the casino's owner
wasnt paying the "monthly fee" which is an extorsion (this case was the most sadistic, but they also made killings in bad reputation bars where rivals
would gather, killing innocent people at the same time), which was very common at the time, even in groceries stores or small restaurants they would
arrive at tell you to pay a certain amount of money or else they would just kill you or your family, oh and they stick to their words many times.
Zetas started to lose, they eventually were losing control, they were killed constantly but they were A LOT...a lot of very very low rank members just
doing whatever they want because people were scared and people were scared of police too. Man I have no reason to lie, I dont speak from what I see in
the news (actually the local media made a deal with the gvt to reduce the organized crime news supposedly to not create more fear, yeah right), I
speak from what we, the people that live here see and know, we protect ourselves, we tell each other what is really going on, this includes
kidnapping. The zetas do whatever to get funds cause they are getting out of control, they are losing, the government is allied with Cartel del Golfo
and and Sinaloa's Cartel (el chapo guzman) to dissapear the zetas, they are ruthless animals who seem to not have a conscience.
So yeah man, zetas (which are a cartel too) will do ANYTHING including kidnapping and extorsion (the call it "floor rights") to get money because they
are running out of it. And look, again, I'm not talking in general, the upper rank Zeta members are still doing the big drug business like you see in
Breaking Bad and # and making ridicously amounts of money out of it, but Im talking about the pawns and regional leaders.
Also the violence was because of rival cartels competing since Mexico was having big elections and so everyone was vying for power at the same time.
Once the elections ended the mass killing stopped as well... sorry my wife is Mexican and I have been there a few times..I also have many Mexican
friends....I am not implying you were lying I just heard it different is all...have a good one.
The heavy violence started around 3 years before the big elections, the 2 big parties (PRI and PAN) are both anti-Zetas, tha'ts why they have
captured the 2 biggest Zetas in the last months, what they are really fighting for is for the north-eastern states of Mexico. And yeah about your
friends, I don't think no one here wants to tell visitors how "dangerous" our city is hehe, and actually it is not anymore, to date you need to have
bad luck in order for something bad happen to you, I also had visitors from the U.S a month ago and we went out like nothing was wrong and they were
very happy with everything, better times are coming I hope
You have a good one too!
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