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Eric Holder Demands Government Supervision of Apple's Itunes & App Store

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posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 05:47 PM
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ERIC HOLDER DEMANDS GOVERNMENT SUPERVISION OF APPLE'S ITUNES & APP STORES


benswann.com

The mega company currently gets 30 percent commission for any e-books sold on an Apple Store App. According to the Wall Street Journal, the DOJ is pushing for Amazon.com to be able to sell e-books on Apple Apps without the 30 percent commission.

(visit the link for the full news article)


edit on 8/5/2013 by tothetenthpower because: --Mod Edit--All caps, don't use em


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posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 05:47 PM
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wonder what other industries he wants to "supervise"? I am not a fan of Apple but I hope they win this one, the government should stay out of personal business decisions, and Amazon has their own site they can sell books on. I don't even think this is legal, I hope the judge denies this right off the bat, It could send a dangerous message to other companies if this is let through.

Amazon apparently donated $100,000 to *Obama*. and I'm not sure how much Apple donated.

benswann.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
edit on Mon Aug 5 2013 by DontTreadOnMe because: Reaffirming Our Desire For Productive Political Debate (REVISED)



posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 05:54 PM
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Interesting. Perhaps they don't want certain interested parties looking into the infrared spectrum or looking at star maps too easily?



posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 05:57 PM
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Wait hold up!

As I understand this, Apple was found guilty of price fixing ebooks right?

To boost the already record profits they were making?

Now that the DOJ wants some oversight, to make sure they end up following the rules, people are going to cry Big Brother?!

The justice department is doing what it should be done. Imposing and penalty and following suit after a company broke a law.

I'd rather they send those responsible to jail and call it a day, but if they cant' do that to them, might as well hurt their profit margin.

~Tenth



posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 06:01 PM
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It's about oversight. Or a lack thereof.



posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 06:01 PM
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This sooooooooooo reminds me of ATLAS SHRUGGED!!!!!

When are people going to get it??????



posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 06:02 PM
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KaiDKravitVALIS42
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It's about oversight. Or a lack thereof.


Isn't the DOJ stating they WANT oversight now, to prevent further problems?

I'm just confused as to what people expect?

It seems like people get up in arms when they do nothing, yet give the same reaction when they try to do anything.

~Tenth



posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 06:09 PM
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Is this what's called a lose lose situation?



Do something get blamed do nothing get blamed.



posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 06:17 PM
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tothetenthpower
As I understand this, Apple was found guilty of price fixing ebooks right?

There's a hidden controversy that's not discussed in relation to this.

The original rationale for what Jobs was calling "reasonable pricing" was so that the book author gets a fixed and dependable royalty for digital book downloads. Many of the existing (at the time) publishing deals had fixed percentages only for the publisher and distributor, allowing Amazon to undercut market prices and still maintain full percentages for them and the publisher, while drastically reducing what authors would get.

Apple is on the losing end of a conspiracy amongst Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and major publishers to keep the existing framework that has screwed many authors out of decent royalties.



posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 06:43 PM
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Holder’s request follows a decision by Denise Cote, a New York Federal District Judge. Cote ruled that Apple violates the US Anti-Trust Laws, which are designed to prevent monopolies and fixed prices.


I have to laugh at this really.

The Us government is the largest monopoly,price fixers the world has ever seen.

Basically this in a nut shell is government trying to kill off the competition.

They are good at that kind of stuff, and make corporations look like 'saints'.

Think Holders time would be better spent dishing out real justice instead of that 'social justice' that lacks any justice what so ever.

Not that I like Apple mind you, my contempt of Holder and the administration is higher.
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posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 06:47 PM
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Why is Holder even still here??
Wish he would go home with his corrupt ways.

Government is getting a little too aggressive, one would think.


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posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by tothetenthpower

KaiDKravitVALIS42
reply to post by tothetenthpower
 


It's about oversight. Or a lack thereof.


Isn't the DOJ stating they WANT oversight now, to prevent further problems?

I'm just confused as to what people expect?

It seems like people get up in arms when they do nothing, yet give the same reaction when they try to do anything.

~Tenth




for me the problem is that it's telling Apple not to take the 30% fee from Amazon that it charges to everybody else. What makes Amazon so special?



posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 07:38 PM
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Originally posted by tothetenthpower

KaiDKravitVALIS42
reply to post by tothetenthpower
 


It's about oversight. Or a lack thereof.


Isn't the DOJ stating they WANT oversight now, to prevent further problems?

I'm just confused as to what people expect?

It seems like people get up in arms when they do nothing, yet give the same reaction when they try to do anything.

~Tenth


I mean that if there is only ONE group which has oversight there is a problem. Who watches the watchers?



posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 08:55 PM
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Hmmm....very interesting.

With this news factored in, was this a trade off, or back scratch?


Imports and sell of Apple Inc. (NASDAQ:AAPL) iPhones and iPads can’t be Banned for growth of industry

www.fiscalinsider.com...

Obama trade representative reverses ban on imports of some Apple iPads, older iPhones

www.washingtonpost.com... 1e2-89f7-8599e3f77a67_story.html



posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 09:46 PM
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I'm not understanding how the ruling happened in the first place on this, since Apple App Store is a direct creation of Apple Inc and their own proprietary market place? How is it the Government has any business in what Apple charges or how they handle contracts for vendors that want to sell on their own market place?

Given that a ruling was made, fine them or whatever but the level of direct management influence here is patently absurd for reaching into the private sector. This is how the DOJ has run misbehaving states on things like Voting and Civil rights issues for micro-management. Private sector now? Decisions that don't JUST slap Apple for whatever violation but have direct competitive advantage to specific competitors? Where are we? Venezuela?



posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 09:56 PM
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Maybe Apple should compromise and allow Holder and the DOJ some oversight to the Apple Store.

Meanwhile Apple can oversee the Fast and Furious investigations, the IRS investigations, the New Black Panther voter intimidation investigations, the Benghazi investigations, etc..... Fair is fair, right?

Point is, if your own business is in a shambles then you should keep your nose out of other people's business.



posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 10:31 PM
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The nwo marxist leninist takeover continues.

Ron paul was our only realistic hope and we elect a marxist globalist nwo car salesman.



posted on Aug, 5 2013 @ 11:11 PM
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Don't criticize your neighbors yard when your own is weedy and overgrown.

I am interested in what SO had to say.....regarding the royalties. It would take a pretty serious story to get me on Apples side.



posted on Aug, 6 2013 @ 01:05 AM
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Originally posted by tothetenthpower

KaiDKravitVALIS42
reply to post by tothetenthpower
 


It's about oversight. Or a lack thereof.


Isn't the DOJ stating they WANT oversight now, to prevent further problems?

I'm just confused as to what people expect?

It seems like people get up in arms when they do nothing, yet give the same reaction when they try to do anything.

~Tenth


because they always seem to choose their battles poorly...

they choose to stick their nose in this, when there are FAR more important things they should be looking into....

so it's not entirely as you describe...its not a matter of bitching when they do nothing, and bitching when they try to do something. it's bitching when they do nothing, and bitching when they do something useless, or wasteful, or stupid, when there are more serious matters to attend do, in lieu of doing nothing. in other words they either do nothing, or do "busy work", to appear as if they are not completely useless, incompetent, and wasting our money.
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posted on Aug, 6 2013 @ 08:34 AM
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Originally posted by sandman441

ERIC HOLDER DEMANDS GOVERNMENT SUPERVISION OF APPLE'S ITUNES & APP STORES


benswann.com

The mega company currently gets 30 percent commission for any e-books sold on an Apple Store App. According to the Wall Street Journal, the DOJ is pushing for Amazon.com to be able to sell e-books on Apple Apps without the 30 percent commission.

(visit the link for the full news article)


edit on 8/5/2013 by tothetenthpower because: --Mod Edit--All caps, don't use em


edit on Mon Aug 5 2013 by DontTreadOnMe because: try again


The big question here is... WHY? Why does our government have to reign over a market that is supposed to be free? This disturbs me to no end. Let the market work itself out. Any government intervention is just going to raise the prices even more. Eric Holder needs to be fired, along with about half of the rest of them.



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