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Originally posted by veteranhumanbeing
Does your present allow for modification/the intrusion of all other things beyond your control, (sneaky thoughtforms I call them) because I am bombarded with the past future likelihoods and would like to anihliate all extra random thought activity.
Itsnowagain
Thought forms now (the forming of everything is now) and is seen now - they arise with no control - no one is doing them. They speak of that which they know nothing about (future).
If you want to annihilate the thoughts that arise then that is the suffering. Resisting life, running away from what is, is the denial of the light of consciousness. Thought arising is just words (God is the word) that tell a story about 'other' - 'other' than now (past, future and somewhere else) - thought happens always presently and that is fine but the trouble starts when the story is believed. The story is always told in truth (presence) but speaks of another - when really there is no other. It is just about realizing that you are not stretched over time - that in fact you are always present with stories appearing. The stories (thoughts of other times) happen but are seen to be amusement. It is only when one is lost in the story of me in time that there can be suffering.
What is wrong with right now.......................unless you think about something that is not really here now? Even if thinking happens now - can any thought harm what you are? Thought cannot arise without the present being. I would just like to say - thought is not the enemy - it can deliver amazing insights but it can also be very deceptive - it can lead one astray. Who are the thoughts speaking about when they talk about you?
Itsnowagain
The whole point is that there is no 'me in time'. There is only now and I am never separate from it and nor are you - you just think you are.The illusion that you are separate and divided from all that is comes from the belief in the thoughts/concept of 'before' and after'.This is the beginning and end right here and right now eternally
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
The fundamental "problem" as far as I can tell is that the human being resides in the rather precarious position of standing right next to the very Godhead and that, therefore we are in need of intercessory Grace from the one who is appropriately positioned to offer it, but that kind of "submission" doesn't sit too well with the willful pride of man.
Therefore, imho, it's very very humorous, but woe to he/she who lacks the capacity to recognize that the joke's on them, because that is how their heart gets hardened and their will to power, re-asserted. Future devils are made in this way, but to hell with them for being so stupid and foolish, and so ignorantly arrogant in their presumptions about the true nature of God and of man's intended relationship with God, walking hand in hand in spirit and in truth.
Originally posted by ctophil
Originally posted by veteranhumanbeing
reply to post by ctophil
I am in concurrance with all you have said, understand your viewpoint as it is mine as well, and beautifully set forth in your observations and conclusions. I have nothing to add but thanks for sharing this with others and Greatest I Am providing a forum for the ideaforms. Its all good dialoge, inspiring and genuine.
edit on 11-8-2013 by vethumanbeing because: (no reason given)
It is our pleasure to serve others. For when we serve others, we also serve ourselves. The greatest among us is the least, and the least among us is the greatest. The greatest servant among us is the Creator Himself. With this knowledge, you no need to thank me, for when I serve you, I am serving myself. The Universe is a mirror that reflects back what you do. As I continue to teach and speak, I AM greeting you all as God meets God. Namaste.
Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by Greatest I am
If You live 900 odd years after an act, can you say that that act killed you?
Yes. If Adam and Eve had not eaten from the Tree of Knowledge, they would have been given access to the Tree of Life for eternity so that they would never have died. After they sinned, they were banned from eating from the Tree of Life ever again.
Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by Greatest I am
God has his reasons for why he does what he does. That doesn't mean we have to understand every single one of them. God's thoughts are higher than our thoughts and his ways are higher than our ways.
For some reason, the blood that keeps human flesh alive had to be cleansed from our corrupted bodies in order to make way for our incorruptible bodies that are coming.
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Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by Greatest I am
The "barbaric" act was on the part of the forces of evil.
So God demanded his son's death to give man something that he could have given without a barbaric blood sacrifice.
In the movie, The Passion of Christ, you see this "evil" personified as this creepy looking man with a hooded cloak, wondering around the perimeters of the action, watching, with the idea that he was influencing events by giving telepathic suggestions to the various participants.
People are supposed to understand this in a particular way, which is that Evil thought that he was going to win by killing Jesus and utterly humiliating him.
What really happened was that Evil was shown to be just that, through the actions that he thought he could put the blame for on other people, all the way from Judas, up to Ceasar.
This is something that could not have been brought out in any clearer way than the way that it was in the crucifixion of Christ.
The other thing that goes with that judgment on Evil that the events do, is to make a judgment on ourselves through the person of Jesus, that he took upon himself all our weaknesses and signs of failure, and was vindicated despite that, which opens the way to our own vindication at the ends of our lives despite our past weaknesses and failings.
Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by Itisnowagain
Christ also said: "whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die." (John 11:25-26)
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Originally posted by piequal3because14
reply to post by Greatest I am
Because children are perfect in their beauty,as we are like children for Creation.
If created perfect as scriptures say, why would we need salvation?
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by Greatest I am
why would we need salvation?
For some it would be ego, pride, and the desire to judge God himself, along with a steadfast refusal to repent for sins, even the sin of arrogance, and the sins of omission (that we are not even aware of).
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There is a book that the movie was based on, which maybe I should start looking for, which explains it better, but I am pretty sure I an right from articles that I have read on it.
I saw it more as the vindication of Judas. You might want to watch that film again.
I just don't buy into that concept.
If there is anyone to blame for Jesus death it goes to the S O B who demanded it. His own insane father.